[QUOTE=Skit]:rolleyes:
Legend of Zelda isnt by SOAD!

:angry:[/QUOTE]

Damn beat me to it :p

Meh, I really don't like Daron's vocals.

Serj is just so much cooler in all aspects.

Nah, I like them equally. I love Serj's almost operatic style of singing, and I love Daron's more whiny stuff like the "my c0ck" line.

Anyway, like I said before, whether you like his voice or not, artistically, they couldn't have asked for a better secondary singer.

System Of A Down - Toxicity II (Unreleased)

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01-Everytime
02-Streamline
03-Virginity
04-Waiting For You (Version 1)
05-We Don't Give A
06-Side Of The Freeway
07-On My Mind
08-Want Me To Try
09-Why
10-Power Struggle
11-Therapy
12-Outer Space
13-Your Own Pace
14-Defy
15-Waiting For You (Version 2)

I posted it in mailing list thread, but here too, anyone want it?

what do you think is the best unreleased/cover system has ever did my fav is the metro

I dig Snowblind. Also, Shame On A Nigga, even though I don't have the song and have only heard it once.

[QUOTE=Clunge]Meh, I really don't like Daron's vocals.

Serj is just so much cooler in all aspects.[/QUOTE]

Daron sounds just like most other pop punk singers. Nothing unique about him. Serj on the other hand is quite unique, and has a pretty cool growl that he uses sometimes.

But yea, their vocals aren't even comparable. Soad without Serj would suck.

Im pretty sure that growl is Daron; Serj's growl is more akin to yelling rather than any singing technique/style

WTH are you on about?

Anyway, no, Serj does the growling. And the yelling. And the singing. Daron does the screaming and the whining.

[QUOTE=msufan23]what do you think is the best unreleased/cover system has ever did my fav is the metro[/QUOTE]
I agree...it's my favorite song to jam on my guitar with.

[QUOTE=mutant!]I dig Snowblind. Also, Shame On A Nigga, even though I don't have the song and have only heard it once.[/QUOTE]

ya but snowblind is a black sabbath song so its just a cover but it is a good song

I like the metro...its just a really cool song. Going back to the lyrical thing, darons voice sucks. He sounds like he has a pole shoved up his behind. Serj's voice rocks though, goes with there style of music.

[QUOTE=mutant!]CHRIST WHEN WILL PEOPLE STOP GOING ON ABOUT DARON think of it from an artistic point of view. Music is an art, amirite? OK. Thus each song is an artwork. Now look at System's typical lyrical material. For one, they're often [I]immensely[/I] sarcastic in bringing their points across. Also, they loooove poking fun at pop culture. Pop-punk bands such as Blink-182 sadly form(ed) a part of pop culture. Thus this kind of music (pop-punk) becomes a metaphor for pop culture. From an artistic point of view, what's a good way to sarcastically poke fun at a music genre?

Imitate it.

Listen to Lonely Day's lyrics. It's a beautiful example of how Daron is (remember this is all IMHO) jabbing a stick at "dark" pop-punk bands like Good Charlotte. It would sound [I]so[/I] **** if Serj tried to sing that. In fact, it'd sound like he's being serious. However, Daron's decidedly teenage voice makes it funny. From an artistic point of view, excellent sarcastic irony and use of timbres.[/QUOTE]
Nuff said.

^ Truth.

[QUOTE=mutant!]WTH are you on about?

Anyway, no, Serj does the growling. And the yelling. And the singing. Daron does the screaming and the whining.[/QUOTE]

Nope, it's Daron who does the growl. Saw a live video when they were playing "Atwa" once. The growler was Daron.

Yes, LIVE being the key word.

Daron adds in growls etc live but on the albums its almost always Serj

No it's Daron

aka start of prison song aka start of cigaro aka the chorus of atwa.

Do you wish me to continue?

I've tried fighting this fight. I've never won.

I think Cigaro is all Serj, Though it could be Daron at first then Serj backs up with a higher scream at 12 seconds


The start of Prison Song is so obviously Serj, You can hear that its Serjs voice, Also Daron cant growl that low.
However, Daron growls on the "Research on sucessful drug..." part, He also does the "For you and me" and other parts but that is clearly Daron anyway..


Likewise, The chorus of ATWA is so obviously Daron.
Its clearly his voice.



I cant believe you people cant tell the difference between there voices...

[QUOTE=Skit]I think Cigaro is all Serj, Though it could be Daron at first then Serj backs up with a higher scream at 12 seconds


The start of Prison Song is so obviously Serj, You can hear that its Serjs voice, Also Daron cant growl that low.
However, Daron growls on the "Research on sucessful drug..." part, He also does the "For you and me" and other parts but that is clearly Daron anyway..


Likewise, The chorus of ATWA is so obviously Daron.
Its clearly his voice.



[B]I cant believe you people cant tell the difference between there voices...[/B][/QUOTE]

I hope you're being sarcastic, for your own sake..:eek:

Meaning...?
Which one of those songs do you believe I got it wrong?

[QUOTE=Skit]Meaning...?
Which one of those songs do you believe I got it wrong?[/QUOTE]

Ok well.. ATWA.. lets see.. serj does na na's, sings the first two sentences, then Daron comes in. They do it again.. then 'you dont care about how i feel' is Serj, not Daron. Then they do 'na na na' together. Serj sings again for 2, Daron joins him, and then repeat. Chorus again, it's Serj screaming. The 'i dont sleeep' is Serj, then Shavo does the 'ANYMOOOOORE'. Daron's not anywhere near there so whichever one you were referring to as a chorus, Daron isn't in it.

In Cigaro, I assume you're talking about the growls, in which case you're probably right but obviously Daron sings a lot of that song normally.

I wasnt saying the whole song is Daron, I was refering to the growl in the chorus.
The "Anymore!" part is Daron.

The parts where they are just singing, Is obvious whos who (As you said above).


Shavo doesnt sing on any album song as far as I remember (Maybe bounce..) but he does some grunts live now and again.

seem to be a good mix nomatter who sings it

[QUOTE=Skit]I wasnt saying the whole song is Daron, I was refering to the growl in the chorus.
The "Anymore!" part is Daron.

The parts where they are just singing, Is obvious whos who (As you said above).


Shavo doesnt sing on any album song as far as I remember (Maybe bounce..) but he does some grunts live now and again.[/QUOTE]

Yeah sorry when I first read your post I thought you were referring to the whole songs.. but I still think 'Anymore!' is Shavo because Daron's voice doesn't really go that deep tbh

why does anyone care who sings it?

Obviously some have their reasons otherwise they wouldnt be arguing :p

And whoever said Shavo only does screams live is right.
Daron can go that low when he screams/growl whatever.
By the sounds of it his nasily voice is about as high as he can go without really losing pitch

Yeah, Daron can go quite low, but his vocals on Lonely Day are about as high as he can go.

[QUOTE=grungeboygtr]Which song by them has a sitar solo...I know there is one but I can't remember the name.[/QUOTE]


I *think* it's Deer Dance off Toxicity

I just saw them live for a second time within 10 months. They put on a really good show.