So what's this about the album name and track listings? Can it be true?

Eh, in my case I still appreciate Tool's music, but I don't listen to the cds that much anymore. I have so much other stuff to listen to that's still new to me, while my Tool albums are old and played out. I will still be buying the new CD, but I can't tell you if I'll be listening to any other Tool material until then.

I'm pretty much in the same position as you, Otherside.

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]So what's this about the album name and track listings? Can it be true?[/QUOTE]
...What about it?

Look at the news.

This is a RUMOR, people.

I heard it was true...I have nothing to back that up with.

I hope they have a new one out....but if not what's new?

Umm...
You mean toolband right?

I looked on there earlier, but saw nothing great.



I guess I'll look again...

i'm just wondering if there are any christian tool fans here.. i'm still hanging on to a thread of christianity, Tool kindof opened my mind.

I technically am, but I don't really believe to much.

I call myself a christian, but I'm against "organised religion".. Or rather, I'm against people with religious power

I'm a Christian.

I'm an unpracticing Christian. Celebrate the holidays, nothing else...no church, no communion, no conformation, what have you.

I haven't listened to Tool in a LONG time...maybe I should relisten eventually.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]I call myself a christian, but I'm against "organised religion".. Or rather, I'm against people with religious power[/QUOTE]
Pretty much the same for me, except I also look into other religions for spiritual guidance also. I believe that there are answers in the Bible but other places have answers too.

I believe in the code of morals that the Bible teaches, but I don't support the organized religion and the church hiearchy. I draw spiritual guidance from a variety of sources, and thus I do not follow any single religion.

I did grow up Christian, though.

I'm a christian, but I don't go to church, but I do believe.
But Tool did change my way of thinking, but not religiously

[QUOTE=Moses]Pretty much the same for me, except I also look into other religions for spiritual guidance also. I believe that there are answers in the Bible but other places have answers too.[/QUOTE]

Oh, definately. I believe there's something to be found in most religions

Atheism all the way, baby.

I'd call myself a Deist, I suppose. I believe in "God," at least to the extent of some form of higher power, but my cosmology is markedly different from the standard Judeo-Christian model. I do base much of my personal morals on the ideas of Jesus and other noted religious leaders, but my conclusions often run contrary to those of many of the followers of said religions.

christian, influenced by judaism a bit more than your average catholic

Agnostic.

OMD there is no talk on this tracklisting...

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/news.php...=236&genreid=0[/url]

Sounds like sh!t to me.

I'm most similar to a Pantheist or a Deist in my religious views, though officially I call myself Agnostic.


And that fake Tool tracklisting is hilarious. 23 as opposed to 46?

I'm technically a Christian, and although I find that Christianity is very irrational, I agree with its morals.

[QUOTE=Scruples]Atheism all the way, baby.[/QUOTE]
I really don't understand Atheism, it's unthinkable for me that there's no mysticism in my life.

I vary between atheism and pantheism on a week by week basis.


In short, I'm agnostic.

It's hard to describe my morals..I use drugs now, but I don't do them for fun or to party, I do them for spiritual exploration..I won't do meth or coke because that type of effect does nothing for me...I'm down for most things though because I'm kind of in that 'discovery phase' so to speak.

Moses- That's not how I perceive atheism...It just means you don't believe in deities. Religion and spirituality are so vastly different that you can hardly compare the two. Just because a person doesn't believe in a god doesn't mean they can't be spiritual. Take me for example...

I believe in God, that's as close to any religion that I'll ever be.

I believe that we are all spiritual beings.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Moses- That's not how I perceive atheism...It just means you don't believe in deities. Religion and spirituality are so vastly different that you can hardly compare the two. Just because a person doesn't believe in a god doesn't mean they can't be spiritual. Take me for example...[/QUOTE]
I thought that's exactly what agnostism is. They don't beleive anything they haven't seen. I didn't know you had to believe in deities to be religious either.

I go between weak athiest and strong athiest. As much as I would like to experience a metaphysical-mystical side of life, after being burned by evangelical christianity I find it hard to believe in anything I have not seen. I can't even trust my own emotional experiences, they led me down the path of christianity.

I don't have anything against jesus or God or any other deity, but I highly dispise preachers, teachers, and believers who claim that 'god spoke to my heart' or try to force their world view onto others through the courts.

During the last superbowl. I guess there was a church who wasn't getting enough dough to the preacher, so a large group of people stood at a large intersection in my town and protested, yea, the superbowl. One sign had 'superbowl? try STUPIDBOWL!-Repent and be forgiven!' [aka come to our church, we need your money]. Any religion that tries to shame people into believing is really pathetic, and it only shows me how hypocritical these supposed non-judgmental christian groups are, and if there was a God, he surely is sending these people to hell. I remember reading in the gospels Jesus letting that prostitute wash his feet, not condemning her, and shaming her, only showing pure charity. I have never in all my years seen a christian act that way.

[QUOTE=Scruples]Atheism all the way, baby.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Rounder] I have never in all my years seen a christian act that way.[/QUOTE]
Those are just people that call themselves Christian. I was always raised Christian and I still have alot of Christian beliefs, but I've always been the one to befriend homosexuals and "immoral" people. Also the Bible doesn't really condemn homosexuality anyway.