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lucky luciano 02-23-2006 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]Trust me Tool boys, I've listened to loads of Tool. The only song I like is Sober. Sorry to disappoint you all. :p[/QUOTE]

That's fine with me. We like Tool, you don't, who cares, but may I ask why you are in the Tool thread then?

Moses 02-23-2006 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]^ That just meens less filler tracks, and longer songs. :)[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily. Could be a filler album.

Darkness 02-23-2006 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]Not necessarily. Could be a filler album.[/QUOTE]
How dare you...

Moses 02-23-2006 08:10 PM

I hate Tool. I love their music but I hate them.

Kage 02-23-2006 08:25 PM

It's funny how everyone comes into this thread as wide-eyed, niave tool fans and then comes out as weary old men grunting about how much they hate Tool.

Spiritofmosa 02-23-2006 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Somebody requested this, so I thought I'd post it here as well while I'm at it. Old video of Push it in which a fan jumps on stage and Maynard puts him in a choke hold.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCGpbFVDHZk[/url][/QUOTE]
all the fan wanted was a hug..

Moses 02-23-2006 08:29 PM

I don't really even enjoy them in the same way anymore. I also think their philosiphies are pretty much at a highschool level. The new album better be good.

Kage 02-23-2006 08:31 PM

You can just feel this rift, this widening gulf, slowly growing between the regulars of this thread and the band.

Moses 02-23-2006 08:32 PM

How about you Kage what's your stance on them?

I might enjoy a few tracks from Aenima like the self-titled, Eulogy and Third Eye if I had it on my computer.

One other thing that pisses me off about them is how they try to be so mystical and ****. Shame on them.

Kage 02-23-2006 08:35 PM

Almost the same as you, but I still really love their music. The thing is, I don't listen to them near as much as I used to, nor do I consider them to be on the same level of "greatness" as I once did.

Their philosophies are interesting, but so are a lot of peoples', and I've actually come into contact with some "artists" who have much more innovative ideas than "think for yourself, question authority."

Magicaltroll 02-23-2006 09:35 PM

Yeah, Tool's philosophies aren't the most complex, but they're not bad.

Darkness 02-23-2006 09:36 PM

I'm pretty sure they're still my favorite band, I just really need some new material, like we all do.

lucky luciano 02-23-2006 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=cigaro88]all the fan wanted was a hug..[/QUOTE]

That was crazy, thanks for sharing.:p ,

lucky luciano 02-23-2006 09:47 PM

They're still my favorite band, and I do agree with most of what maynard talks about, but on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised to meet them and find out that they are a bunch of arrogant bastards. I don't think that they are trying to be "mysterious" or anything like that, they just like their privacy, and don't really give a **** about the fame and crap like that.

Moses 02-23-2006 09:48 PM

Heh, the advertisements said Moses on it before.

Kage 02-23-2006 09:49 PM

I have one that says Moses, but it's an add for Target that has seemingly nothing to do with Moses.

Moses 02-23-2006 09:53 PM

It says it either way.

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Shut up.

Dr. Jake Destructo 02-23-2006 10:20 PM

Tool opened me up to the world of metaphysics, and for that, I'm pretty much in eternal to love the band. :bondage:

Rounder 02-23-2006 10:22 PM

[quote=Kage]You can just feel this rift, this widening gulf, slowly growing between the regulars of this thread and the band.[/quote]

lol....

Im a Tool-music-fan. I do not really care about whatever it is the new *Ive got Tool Figured Out by Counting Backwards To Ten Then Standing On My Head and Taking a ***** theory is. I mean, this stuff about album reoders and the fibbonocciciococacola sequence, however interesting and accurate it might be, is not something I really care about. When I put on a Tool song, I am letting the music play, and I have a reaction to it. It is not important what Tool intended the meaning to be. It is important how I interpret it. Maynard said it himself, most of the internet faqs and theories about Tool are way off. Tool is coming from a perspective that may seem to be insane to people on the outside. I cannot hope to (or care to) understand everything maynard sings or every image Adam creates. What I can understand is how the songs/art affect me and how I interpret the lryics and how he sings them. The songs take on an exteremely personal meaning for me, which is what Tool intended in the first place. I personally think the band intentionally sends their fans on wild goose chases just for the hilarity of it. You do not need to do a research paper on Jung's archetypes and things like extra chromosomes or majik to appreciate and get enjoyment and meaning out of Tool. Especially on Lateralus, the meanings are more fundamental.

anyways who cares :smash:

Moses 02-23-2006 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Tool opened me up to the world of metaphysics, and for that, I'm pretty much in eternal to love the band. :bondage:[/QUOTE]
Bondage like S+M. Oh and where the hell have you been?

One Groovin Clown 02-23-2006 10:35 PM

I completely agree with what Rounder said. I love Tool for their music and how i can think very clearly when i listen to them. I do as well find the lyric meanings and other fancy jazz interesting, but not enough to change my view of their music. My enjoyment of tool comes from the way the music reacts with me.

lucky luciano 02-23-2006 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=Rounder]lol....

Im a Tool-music-fan. I do not really care about whatever it is the new *Ive got Tool Figured Out by Counting Backwards To Ten Then Standing On My Head and Taking a ***** theory is. I mean, this stuff about album reoders and the fibbonocciciococacola sequence, however interesting and accurate it might be, is not something I really care about. When I put on a Tool song, I am letting the music play, and I have a reaction to it. It is not important what Tool intended the meaning to be. It is important how I interpret it. Maynard said it himself, most of the internet faqs and theories about Tool are way off. Tool is coming from a perspective that may seem to be insane to people on the outside. I cannot hope to (or care to) understand everything maynard sings or every image Adam creates. What I can understand is how the songs/art affect me and how I interpret the lryics and how he sings them. The songs take on an exteremely personal meaning for me, which is what Tool intended in the first place. I personally think the band intentionally sends their fans on wild goose chases just for the hilarity of it. You do not need to do a research paper on Jung's archetypes and things like extra chromosomes or majik to appreciate and get enjoyment and meaning out of Tool. Especially on Lateralus, the meanings are more fundamental.

anyways who cares :smash:[/QUOTE]

Well done.:thumb:

Vibrant 02-23-2006 11:44 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]How about you Kage what's your stance on them?

I might enjoy a few tracks from Aenima like the self-titled, Eulogy and Third Eye if I had it on my computer.

One other thing that pisses me off about them is how they try to be so mystical and ****. Shame on them.[/QUOTE]


Maynard is almost always Satirical in the way he presents himself.

Det_Nosnip 02-23-2006 11:46 PM

I love their music, and agree with a number of their views, especially those pertaining to the nature of art and entertainment. I think that alot of their ideas and opinions are misunderstood or purposely misdirected (Maynard especially is notorious at this), the root or basic principal from which the band comes from is pure IMO. Although some of Danny's occult stuff is kinda...odd (trapping demons and whatnot), the man's approach to the drumset and overall badass persona makes up for it. :)

misunderstood 02-23-2006 11:54 PM

[I]Madklikor from Toolnavy, as well as Fourtheyer Shinji have confirmed that Sony/BMG in France have confirmed the release date of the new Tool album will be the 2nd of May, 2006. No confirmation of this from Blair or the members of Tool yet, but it looks to me like this might be it.[/I]

And here is a link to the thread at ToolNavy:
[url]http://www.toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=36660[/url]

Huber 02-24-2006 12:17 AM

I think Tool's efforts to stay out of the spotlight is was anyone should do. It's worked, as Moses is demonstrating. I don't think they want people liking [i]them[/i] because we don't know them. They want us to like the music, and don't want anything to do with their personalities affecting that.

I wont believe anything any of them say, unless it's about music. If DC said he played a part in a song with some-odd technique, I'd believe it. If he told me he's the kinda guy who traps demons, I wouldn't. Same goes for the other 3.

Moses 02-24-2006 12:24 AM

[QUOTE=Vibrant]Maynard is almost always Satirical in the way he presents himself.[/QUOTE]
Well obviously, but the thing that makes me hate them is they attract the slacker type guys that sit there playing Xbox and listening to Tool all the time because they think it's so philosophical.
[QUOTE=Huber]I think Tool's efforts to stay out of the spotlight is was anyone should do. It's worked, as Moses is demonstrating. I don't think they want people liking [i]them[/i] because we don't know them. They want us to like the music, and don't want anything to do with their personalities affecting that.[/QUOTE]
It's not so much staying out of the spotlight that makes me hate them, it's the way they present their work with such pretention and try to give the illusion of a grand depth with all these cryptic messages. I used to enjoy those kinds of things but I guess you could say I got sick of their "fake" vibe... Meanwhile I don't listen to them on a regular basis anymore.

Reflection 02-24-2006 12:35 AM

Hey apparantly there's a review of the new tool album on the [url]www.totalrock.com[/url] forums but I cant find it. Anyone?

nevermind they removed it... but someone must have caught it...


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