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Kurtz 09-03-2005 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I dunno...they're close, but as far as I'm concerned, you can't top Brando, Pacino, Caan, and Duvall, and Diane Keaton plays a bigger role in Part II, which is negative.

Speaking of Brando, I also really like On The Waterfront...that should probably replace Requeim For a Dream on my list.[/QUOTE]
You can give me Pacino, De Niro, Duvall, and Cazale over Brando, Pacino, Caan, and Duvall anyday, personally. Except you obviously can't compare Cazale with Duvall.

I just thought Part II had a lot more emotion in it, and it felt like it moved much faster than Part I. Also I thought being a sequel and all, that it didn't let down at all, which is what almost all sequals do.

It has one of the best scores I've heard, too.

EDIT: of course I love sports. But I almost cannot stand sports movies because of my brother's incredible obession with the Rocky movies. If I heard "YOOOOO, ADIRAN, I DID IT! I DID IT!" again, I'll have to kill Sly Stallone with my own bare hands.

Permanent Solution 09-03-2005 08:45 PM

I've never seen any Godfather movie, Scarface, or Fight Club.

Lunch 09-03-2005 08:46 PM

Maybe I'll go watch Scarface. I was trying to think of a good movie I felt like watching, and that could be it.

Illmatic 09-03-2005 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]You can give me Pacino, De Niro, Duvall, and Cazale over Brando, Pacino, Caan, and Duvall anyday, personally. Except you obviously can't compare Cazale with Duvall.

I just thought Part II had a lot more emotion in it, and it felt like it moved much faster than Part I. Also I thought being a sequel and all, that it didn't let down at all, which is what almost all sequals do.

It has one of the best scores I've heard, too.[/QUOTE]

Fredo's death scene/his last scene with Michael in Part II is easily the best scene in any Godfather movie (and one of the best movie scenes ever) but I just preferred Part I for some reason.

Shadows 09-03-2005 08:47 PM

I was watching Fight Club earlier today as it was shown on TV.

I really can't understand the hype about that movie.

Kurtz 09-03-2005 08:48 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I was watching Fight Club earlier today as it was shown on TV.

I really can't understand the hype about that movie.[/QUOTE]
You really have to analyse it after you finish watching it. You got what happened in the end, right?

Lunch 09-03-2005 08:49 PM

I actually really like Fight Club.

Bartender 09-03-2005 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=zeppelinfan2k3]I've never seen any Godfather movie, Scarface, or Fight Club.[/QUOTE]

Scarface is good, but overlong (as discussed), and Fight Club is good but not really essential in any way. The Godfather films (the first two, at least) are amongst the greatest ever made, though.

Kurtz 09-03-2005 08:51 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Scarface is good, but overlong (as discussed), and Fight Club is good but not really essential in any way. The Godfather films (the first two, at least) are amongst the greatest ever made, though.[/QUOTE]
I actually liked Part III :(

Shadows 09-03-2005 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]You really have to analyse it after you finish watching it. You got what happened in the end, right?[/QUOTE]
No, that's the thing.

Today, I watched the first half hour or so. All I saw was a group of guys beating the hell out of each other. I found it pointless and stupid.

But a long time ago when it was shown on TV, I caught the very end. I remember some kind of very deep, thought-invoking ending that wouldn't make an ounce of sense without seeing the rest of the movie.

So maybe I should watch the entire movie before I judge. :)

Kurtz 09-03-2005 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]So maybe I should watch the entire movie before I judge. :)[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a good idea :)

Lunch 09-03-2005 08:53 PM

Well yea, of course you should. I think the beginning part is just cool, but eventually it gets more important and it runs deeper.

Bartender 09-03-2005 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]I actually liked Part III :([/QUOTE]

Well I watched it right on the heels of parts 1 and 2 (this was at the same friend's house where we watched Kill Bill, actually), so maybe how much worse it is was amplified.

Kurtz 09-03-2005 08:55 PM

Your friend's house doesn't sound like a good place to watch movies.

Shadows 09-03-2005 08:58 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Well yea, of course you should. I think the beginning part is just cool, but eventually it gets more important and it runs deeper.[/QUOTE]
I found the violence in the beginning disturbing. Unusual for me as I love a good, pointlessly violent movie. I remember the ending was very confusing - something about there not being another guy and that he was only a fabrication of his mind, or some complicated psychological stuff like that.

Kurtz 09-03-2005 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I found the violence in the beginning disturbing. Unusual for me as I love a good, pointlessly violent movie. I remember the ending was very confusing - something about there not being another guy and that he was only a fabrication of his mind, or some complicated psychological stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, an alter-ego.

It's better if you watch the whole thing, you'd think the end was a great twist.

Bartender 09-03-2005 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]Your friend's house doesn't sound like a good place to watch movies.[/QUOTE]

Why not?

I came away with the idea that the Godfather parts 1 and 2 are brilliant films, and better than the third, and that Kill Bill isn't really worth watching, both of which I stand by having seen them all again since :)

Kage 09-03-2005 09:04 PM

Guys, don't give away the ending.

Shadows 09-03-2005 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=Kurtz]Yeah, an alter-ego.

It's better if you watch the whole thing, you'd think the end was a great twist.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm...sounds interesting. It actually answers several quesions based on what I had seen.

Kurtz 09-03-2005 09:09 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Why not?

I came away with the idea that the Godfather parts 1 and 2 are brilliant films, and better than the third, and that Kill Bill isn't really worth watching, both of which I stand by having seen them all again since :)[/QUOTE]
Heh, no offense intended Bart :)

Everyone's [obviously] different.

ATM 09-03-2005 10:11 PM

USA - 2
Mexico - 0

World Cup, here we come!

NJMetalMeister 09-03-2005 10:26 PM

[quote]Movie talk[/quote]

Essentially here is my take on it.

1)tarantino is amazing, nothing more, nothing less, if you disagree you are wrong

2)david lynch, bleh

3) my top 10 movies (in no real order):

Reservoir Dogs
Intermission
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Empire Strikes Back
Pi (often overlooked for requiem for a dream, which i disagree with)
Super Troopers (One of the greatest lasting comedic value films i have seen, up there with the big lebowski, which will not make this list unfortunately)
Fight Club
Hellraiser
Boondock Saints
Casino

word up g.

Edit: Bleh i realised i couldnt fit donnie darko on there. consider it a honorable mention

Kage 09-03-2005 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=NJMetalMeister]Essentially here is my take on it.

1)tarantino is amazing, nothing more, nothing less, if you disagree you are wrong

2)david lynch, bleh
[/QUOTE]
You're a fu[font=]cking[/font] moron...and not just because you don't like David Lynch and I do.

NJMetalMeister 09-03-2005 10:29 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]You're a fu[font=]cking[/font] moron...and not just because you don't like David Lynch and I do.[/QUOTE]

ive had this particular argument before, many many times, and it usually starts the same way, so i already know why you said that and where the argument would go.

let us leave it at that.

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-03-2005 10:31 PM

The theme that I've noticed in the few Tarantino movies I've seen have been this; "Kill lots of people. Waste gallons of fake blood."

:shrug:

I'm going to take a look for Mullholland Drive or Eraserhead at Blockbuster this weekend, Kage. Whoo!

Kage 09-03-2005 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]The theme that I've noticed in the few Tarantino movies I've seen have been this; "Kill lots of people. Waste gallons of fake blood."

:shrug:

I'm going to take a look for Mullholland Drive or Eraserhead at Blockbuster this weekend, Kage. Whoo![/QUOTE]
Awesome! I hope you like it. And the first part of your post, I agree with 100%.

NJ, I'm not sure what you mean.

NJMetalMeister 09-03-2005 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Awesome! I hope you like it. And the first part of your post, I agree with 100%.

NJ, I'm not sure what you mean.[/QUOTE]

Well that i can explain easily enough. In quite a few instances in the past, whenever i mention i love tarantino and hate lynch, usually a comment similar to yours is directed at me.

The argument always ends up the same way, with my opposition always having the same opinion as all the others who have argued that point, and also goes nowhere, neither of us become changed in opinion at the end

Kage 09-03-2005 10:37 PM

The reason I called you a moron, is because to say that if a person says Tarantino isn't amazing is "wrong" is a completey ignorant and stupid thing to say. I didn't call you a moron for your opinions. I'm a massive Lynch fan, yet you didn't see me once say to anyone that if you disagree with me that you are wrong. It's personal opinion. I've explained in this thread, though, the techincal reasons why Tarantino isn't that great of a director. As for personal opinion, it's up to you.

NJMetalMeister 09-03-2005 10:41 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]The reason I called you a moron, is because to say that if a person says Tarantino isn't amazing is "wrong" is a completey ignorant and stupid thing to say. I didn't call you a moron for your opinions. I'm a massive Lynch fan, yet you didn't see me once say to anyone that if you disagree with me that you are wrong. It's personal opinion. I've explained in this thread, though, the techincal reasons why Tarantino isn't that great of a director. As for personal opinion, it's up to you.[/QUOTE]

fair enough, i was just under the impression that i have been around these boards long enough to be able to make comments like that and not have people take me seriously, but i was wrong i suppose.

and im glad youre willing to let other people have different opinions on lynch from you, because most of the people i know (friends or not) who are lynch fans, if you dont like his stuff, they lecture you on how compeltely wrong you are, and blah blah blah.

ATM 09-03-2005 10:45 PM

Man, the guitar forum really is crap.

Kage 09-03-2005 10:45 PM

I know what you mean, and that pisses me off as much as anyone. I love it when people have differeing opinions from me--it's what makes the world work. Personally, I think Tarantino is a complete hack, but that doesn't mean other people can't love him.

Endless Obsession 09-03-2005 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]USA - 2
Mexico - 0

World Cup, here we come![/QUOTE]

w00t!

I serously get into soccer during the World Cup, just because most Europeans that I know personally love to say USA sucks at Soccer, when we actually dont.

NJMetalMeister 09-03-2005 10:48 PM

[QUOTE=Byzantine]w00t!

I serously get into soccer during the World Cup, just because most Europeans that I know personally love to say USA sucks at Soccer, when we actually dont.[/QUOTE]

The reason they say that is partially because most of the good American players end up on european teams.

For example, the last game the Eintracht Frankfurt won was won because of an american player on their tem.

We dont suck at soccer, but we dont get to keep any of our good players, the **** EU steals em from us!

ATM 09-03-2005 10:48 PM

[QUOTE=Byzantine]w00t!

I serously get into soccer during the World Cup, just because most Europeans that I know personally love to say USA sucks at Soccer, when we actually dont.[/QUOTE]

We are ranked 6th in the world, even over England :cool:

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-03-2005 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]Man, the guitar forum really is crap.[/QUOTE]

It really is, sadly. I have been making a concious effort to do what I can to clean it up, but it's really hard when 95% of the posters suck worse than anyone in R&M. And then the mods also do something to try and make the place better, and they just get "gtfo'd" and stuff. It's really quite pathetic.

Endless Obsession 09-03-2005 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]We are ranked 6th in the world, even over England :cool:[/QUOTE]

Exactly. My one British friend loves talking sh[SIZE=2]it[/SIZE] but Im always like, "you know the US is just as good if not better than Britain these days" he goes "the system is flawed, if we played we would murder you guys".

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-03-2005 11:03 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]


How is the featured song thing going?[/QUOTE]

Pretty good, actually. I've got about 5 or 6 people lined up to do a song, and Byzantine has completed his already, and it will be posted sometime next weekish. I've read it, and it's really quite good. I think there were at least a couple people who actually used my guide to learn 46&2, which is exactly what I wanted to do.

Endless Obsession 09-03-2005 11:09 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]Well they would, and they did a couple of months ago. The US team is still very good though, especially for a country with fu[size=2]ck[/size] all tradition for the game.[/QUOTE]

I can also see the other countries being upset about it like "Its our main sport everybody plays it, its unfair that the US can be better than us when they dont have near the respect for the game as our country."

What other countries dont understand is that all the BEST athletes dont even play soccer, they play one of the 3 major sports here, Basketball, Baseball, or football, so believe it or not, the US could actually be a lot better if they groomed the kids to be soccer players like a Spain, or any other country like that.

[B]OMG THIS HAPPENED AFTER THE MY PREVIOUS POST ABOUT ENGLISH NOT RESPECTING THE US TEAM.[/B]

[QUOTE=markface]the FIFA rankings are based on a flawed system. who here seriously considers USA to be a top 10 team? laughable. :lol:[/QUOTE]

Hahah, thats exactly what I said they all say.

ATM 09-03-2005 11:19 PM

Well they may not be the best, but I love US Soccer and I will suppourt it no matter what.

Dr. Jake Destructo 09-03-2005 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath]



Cool. I read yours, and it was very good. If that standard continues I can see it being very successful. If it's still running in a month or so I'll contribute, although what I have in mind is a bit more artsy.[/QUOTE]

Wicked. Glad to hear it. AIM me sometime with what you're planning on and I'll put you down. Like I said, there's a ton of people cued up, so you'll be waiting for quite a while. :-/


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