Are you kidding me? A K Zildjian will fit in almost anywhere, I know metal bands that use a K heavy ride. The K line is pretty much as versatile as the A line. They can still cut, they just have a darker, trashier tone.

A Customs on the other hand, aren't any better for metal than the Ks. Most of them are thin, so have lower peak volumes, etc. A Customs can be used in jazz easily as well. I don't really know what you're going on about.

Personally, I would recommend the cheaper ride because he isn't a professional drummer.

As far as ZXTi, the titanium DOES improve the sound of them, it's just that the cymbal you're improving is so crappy in the first place that it's not worth the increase in price.

^But, the other K cymbals have to be played in quieter parts/used for accents in rock/metal songs otherwise they won't be heard. A's/A Cust's are really better for that type of music.

AnD Z CustoMz ofcourse!

Seriously dude, if you're usng 19" Medium Thins, a 22" K Heavy, they will cut through, and if they don't, then you need micing and A Customs wouldn't be much better.

K Customs and K Zildjians are very different. A K is still a powerful cymbal, seems like people on here sometimes just assume because they are darker that the sound is just going to disappate. It won't, Ks work amazingly in rock, and can fit fine in metal. I'd rather have K Medium Thins in rock or metal than A Custom regulars or Fast crashes, that's for sure. You have to pick the cymbal for the job, same goes with any series.

Don't limit yourself just because you think "OMG Ks are like dark! They can only be used in a setting with a max dB of like 60!"...

arright so im gonna go to a couple music stores around me, but they dont seem to ever have much selection...

anyways i have a 16" AAX stage crash, and im looking for a crash that would compliment it well, i dont care what brand it is, but i wouldnt want another AAX (and most likely not A custom). im gonna try out a 16" AA crash if they have it, any other ideas?

try a different size, maybe bigger. 17" is a good crash size.

18" is better.

well, thats true. but 17 on up is a good size.....

There isn't much difference beween 16" and 17". 16" gives you cut, 18" will give you body.

Genere: Hardcore Punk

So I was thinking of getting a 16" Crash, 18" Crash, 20" Ride, 14" Hats, 18" China, and 12" Splash?

What kind of cymbals should I get?

16" A Medium crash, 18" A Medium or Medium Thin crash, 18" A china High or Oriental china Trash, 20" A Ping or Rock ride, 14" A Quick Beats, 12" A splash.

Pure perfection. If you're a Sabian man get the AA equivalents. (Medium crash, Medium/Medium Thin crash, regular china, Dry ride/Rock ride, Fusion hats, splash).

hey..PwF seems to be taking care of things here just fine....expect (like last year) a clean thread on my birthday

Look who's checking in :).

who...me?

:) Yep. The father of the cymbal finder :p. Good to see you around here again.

Yeah playwithfire, I've been meaning to say nice job to you. It's not easy giving cymbal advice over and over again.

I got lazy and stopped.

:lol:

how do you think I feel :lol:

i'm back though...and ready for anything

(except for people looking for weird experimental sounds....i'll just say "noiseworks" to you...and NOTHING else)

Yeah man, everyone needs a break from time to time, except Jim apparently, I've taken breaks from the forum before :thumb:. You just come back feeling refreshed :p.

And thanks for the thumbs up Plan B.

like about the time you came back, i left :lol:

and the funny thing is, either way, we're always on MSN

Yeah I know man. MSN can be a lot more relaxing than MX though, chatting to friends instead of dealing with a million and one questions of "What's the difference between X and Y?" and "What's the best?!" or "How do I do this?" or "Should I do this?", etc. :p. It can be frustrating sometimes.

not so much frustrating....as it is repetitive.

Eventually I begin to call them one and the same ;). It's like "Why won't you kids listen? arrrgh! Or if you won't listen... search! search dammit! search! This is the 18th time today that I have explained the differences between the Iron Cobras... the Eliminators... and the DW 5000s... ARRRGH" :lol:.

Hey, I bought a cymbal pack on Ebay:

10" splash, 14" hihats, 16" crash, 20" ride - Solar cymbals

14" Hi-hats, 16" crash - zildjian... sorry I forget what series.

All used, but in very good condition.

Was this a good buy for $150 total?

O, and a cymbal holder...

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]Hey, I bought a cymbal pack on Ebay:

10" splash, 14" hihats, 16" crash, 20" ride - Solar cymbals

14" Hi-hats, 16" crash - zildjian... sorry I forget what series.

All used, but in very good condition.

Was this a good buy for $150 total?

O, and a cymbal holder...[/QUOTE]

solars suck....even if they were new.

Depends what the Zildjians were really, but I would guess ZBT or ZXT.

trillian is nice, i have aim and icq in one program (and msn and yim if i choose to sign up for those)

Okay, so I've got b8s, and an 18" vault crash right now. I'm looking to upgrade; I'm thinking along these lines:
14" HHX Stage Hats
17" AA Medium Thin Crash
21" AAX Stage Ride

For one, what do you think of my choices? Will they blend fine?
For two, how much difference does finish make? I was thinking that because I'm not going so much for the pingy/cutting side of the spectrum, I should go with Traditional finish. Will it make a difference in the sound of the cymbals, or am I crazy?

1) Yes
2) Brilliant finish tend to be slightly darker. I would personally choose Brilliant, but its up to you. Finish will make no difference to the degree of wash or ping (I presume).

Awesome, thanks. I don't understand though...brilliant finish=darker? Interesting...that may help my cymbals blend a bit better.
Any others with some input? It's muchly appreciated.

Oh, and by the way, I'm sort of in between the HHX Groove hats and Stage Hats. I like that the sound of the Groove hats, but they seem a little quiet, and I am looking for a bit more pedal "chick" power than what the groove hats seem to have. I AM however going off of the sabian recordings, so I'm not 100%.

Yeah, I always thought it would be the other way round too.

The difference between brilliant and traditional is basically inaudible, do don't worry about it.