[QUOTE=Otherside]Yah no band can really match Tool's sound, exdept maybe ones that have some of the members of Tool in it.


Anyways, I recently found out about Evanescence doing a cover on Orestes... anyone heard it? Because I don't think I want to...[/QUOTE]

i swear, if evanescence do that, and release it, i will either hang myself, or evanescence..................second option sounds good whatever the scenario, i class evanescence in the same bracket as linkin park and good charlotte, ****ty little teeny bopper music that makes 12 year olds feel hardcore

[QUOTE=Otherside]Yah no band can really match Tool's sound, exdept maybe ones that have some of the members of Tool in it.


Anyways, I recently found out about Evanescence doing a cover on Orestes... anyone heard it? Because I don't think I want to...[/QUOTE]

APC songs are not meant to be covered by anyone.

Tht reminds me, I found an old copy of kerrang the other day (for the US, its basically a magazine that has shown how someone can sell out overtime and turn into a money making suck up magazine). It had their first review of 13th step in it. it got 3 Ks due to it not being diverse enough, and had too few strong points.


Just as an equivilanent, the othe rcopy I found was one reviewing St.Anger, which got 4 Ks for being 'so heavy'.


If anyone can send me Comfortably numb (I know a few have offered now), send to modest_moogle @gmail.com. Im going to have to start keepig people's addresses from in here in future, as we do a lot of sending files nowardays

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]

Just as an equivilanent, the othe rcopy I found was one reviewing St.Anger, which got 4 Ks for being 'so heavy'.[/QUOTE]



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Any one seen any news (besides on their site) on the new album?

Does anybody else find Ticks & Leeches to be one of Tools most meaningful songs? If not the most significant? If you look at there entire list of albums the music follows a pattern and the main focus of Lateralus seems to be what comes after the pure anger that came off earlier realeses...a healing album if you will. Thats why I think Ticks & Leeches is the most significant song on the album. If you look at the lyrics there very short, direct and to the point, and the entire feel of the song has a very strong hatred, retaliation type vibe to it. So if you look at the big picture, its placement on the cd indicates that somewhere along the line of change we tend to revert back to our old self, which in this case is a pissed off individual tired with the overall stupidity and simplicity of people. Lateralus as a whole is a very well thought out and more mellow approach to Tool's music, but anger and hate are primitive emotions that tend to lead to very simplistic brutality just like the song. Luckily (In my opinion) the next song (also having a huge significance being the album title) Lateralus seems like the person is trying to go back to a higher level of thought and life rather than the typical lifestyle choosen by way too many people today. Anyways thats my take on it but for all I know he was constipated when he wrote it so dont take my word for it!

[QUOTE=Ilovebass/music]Does anybody else find Ticks & Leeches to be one of Tools most meaningful songs? If not the most significant? If you look at there entire list of albums the music follows a pattern and the main focus of Lateralus seems to be what comes after the pure anger that came off earlier realeses...a healing album if you will. Thats why I think Ticks & Leeches is the most significant song on the album. If you look at the lyrics there very short, direct and to the point, and the entire feel of the song has a very strong hatred, retaliation type vibe to it. So if you look at the big picture, its placement on the cd indicates that somewhere along the line of change we tend to revert back to our old self, which in this case is a pissed off individual tired with the overall stupidity and simplicity of people. Lateralus as a whole is a very well thought out and more mellow approach to Tool's music, but anger and hate are primitive emotions that tend to lead to very simplistic brutality just like the song. Luckily (In my opinion) the next song (also having a huge significance being the album title) Lateralus seems like the person is trying to go back to a higher level of thought and life rather than the typical lifestyle choosen by way too many people today. Anyways thats my take on it but for all I know he was constipated when he wrote it so dont take my word for it![/QUOTE]



well if thats what you get out of it, thats fine. I think the lyrics are too repetitive to have any really, deep feelings to it. To say its the most significant song the album, and try to pretend its valid, i think is a bit foolish.

repetitive lyrics aren't always bad. in tools case, it's there way of getting there point across strongly. imo.

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]well if thats what you get out of it, thats fine. I think the lyrics are too repetitive to have any really, deep feelings to it. To say its the most significant song the album, and try to pretend its valid, i think is a bit foolish.[/QUOTE]

To tell me how i feel is foolish :D , but you have to admit its the only song out of place which makes it stand out more than the others, its far from being my favorite song (The Patient takes the cake) but id like to know which one you think stands out most.

God to see some song opinions up again, reminds me of the glory days of this thread.

Oh, and apparently, we suck guys

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6221549&postcount=60[/url]

Gotta love that 'fan boy' term

46&2 from a netural (non drummer) perspective is my personal favourite Danny moment. Thats about as far as I can go though, I just think it sound smore impressive than his other stuff.

/reminds me to really, REALLY start understanding the art of drumming more

to the drumming thing, id say the end of lateralus. that part is just so **** catchy! the first time i actually listened and started appreciating tool, i had that drum part stuck in my head for weeks! and im not even a drummer. but until i find the most impressive tool song on drums (well from my view), the end of lateralus has my vote :thumb:

carey does real good on lateralus, but imo his best work is 46 & 2. the drum solo, where adam jones doubles the amount of the main muted riff, is amazing.
Cant forget the bass in 46 and 2 as well. simple, i've played bass twice, and i got the intro riff nailed, but it's how he must have come up with that.
apperently when writing there songs it's carey, channcellor, jones, keenan. so you can really peice together who comes up with what.

[QUOTE=clearvision]I downloaded a torrent of 'rare tool trax - narcossis'.

It has some songs i already have on it such as...Muhammed my friend, passenger, revolution and know your enemy.

track list...

1. Santa Monica and Orange (Live)
2. Spasm (Peach cover) (Live)
3. Silly Little Love Songs (paul mcCartney cover) (?)
4. Demon Cleaner (Kyuss cover) (Live)
5. Muhammed my friend (w/Tori Amos) (Live)
6. Comfortably Numb (Pink Floyd cover) (Live)
7. Wrong Way (Sublime cover) (Live)
8. Passenger (Deftones w/Maynard) (Album track)
9. Know Your Enemy (RATM w/Maynard) (Album track)
10. cold and ugly (4 track demo)
11. hush (4 track demo)
12. part of me (4 track demo)
13. crawl away (4 track demo)
14. sober (4 track demo)
15. jerk off (4 track demo)
16. No quarter (Led Zep cover)

What do you know about some of these? The confortably numb cover is the same one i had before, and i'm very suspicious wether that is tool or maynard singing. HWat are these 4 track demos? I am able to mail you a few of these sons if you would like. Or you can get the whole torrent from [url]www.lokitorrent.com[/url] search rare tool...[/QUOTE]

I really want No Quarter, WRong Way, Comfortably Numb, and spasm

pulkpullrevolvingdoors at gmail.com

THANKS!

So I just found the worst Tool tribute ever. A bunch of techno groups got together to cover Tool songs.... oh god.

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]So I just found the worst Tool tribute ever. A bunch of techno groups got together to cover Tool songs.... oh god.[/QUOTE]

just when i thought there could be nothing worse than the guys who re-mixed some of their songs.....(not Lohner of course, not heard his Tool remix's yet. Apparently they were played at Ozzfest one year)

The Comfortably Numb cover's okay, I used to have it, but I'd rather listen to originals anyday over their covers. Especially Undertow.

Best Cover song>>>>NO QUARTER




'nuf said

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]Best Cover song>>>>NO QUARTER




'nuf said[/QUOTE]

yes no quarter is the best cover song i have ever heard ...i think its much better than the orgininal :thumb:

i dont know if id say that, but i like it, real melodic, methodic kinda slow beat

i like 'lets have a war' by apc a whole bunch

Careful, you just spoke positively of a song off eMOTIVE. Some people on here will shoot on site for a crime like that.

Tool's covers > APC's covers

Probably since tool have done very few, and the majority of APC ones are just generally bad

This is my first Tool post. For a while now I have been quite the naysayer towards this band, but after listening to some DT with my buddy Jordan, (who is about the only one of my friends who appreciates music like I do,) we got on the topic of Tool. I of course spoke negatively of them, and he argued. After hearing him talk for a while, I decided that maybe I was too quick to judge the band, and I ran out and bought [I]Lateralus[/I].

I finally got a chance to listen to it through, and my previous opinion of Tool was unjustified. I judged them before I got a chance to really listen to them. I am normally very open minded when it comes to music in all aspects...but for some reason it took me this long to discover Tool...:confused:

After listening to the album, I really liked [I]Parabola[/I], [I]Ticks and Leeches[/I], and now I know that the radio version of [I]Schism[/I] doesnt do it justice. I really like Carey's drumming...its the highlight of the album so far for me.

Based on that, does anybody have any thoughts or suggestions for me as far as more Tool stuff goes?

Thanks :thumb:



ps. Sublime is my favorite band...how is their cover of [I]Wrong Way[/I]? Anyone know how I can get a hold of it?

A lot of people I know don't like Tool the first time they hear them, but eventually they start to come around. I think Tool take a while to get into. Anyway, it's nice to see someone else has just gotten into Tool's sound, and you will probably grow to appreciate it more as you listen to them more often. I'd suggest you also get Aenima, it's my second favourite album from them (Lateralus being the first), although this thread is split over which of the two they like more.

Suggested songs
Pu**** (Aenima)
Eulogy (Aenima)
Hooker With A ***** (Aenima)
46 & 2 (Aenima)
Sober (Undertow)
Bottom (Undertow)

[QUOTE=Fast Fingers]So I just found the worst Tool tribute ever. A bunch of techno groups got together to cover Tool songs.... oh god.[/QUOTE]

I own that. It's not very good.

Hey guys, I don't know many Tool songs, but what i've heard i have liked. So anyone wanna reccommend some songs to a "probable fan if he had more exposure?"

If you looked two posts above you, you would of had a start. From Lateralus, try:

Parabol/Parabola
Ticks & Leeches
The Patient
Lateralus
Schism

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]Hey guys, I don't know many Tool songs, but what i've heard i have liked. So anyone wanna reccommend some songs to a "probable fan if he had more exposure?"[/QUOTE]
As opposed to listing a bunch of songs for you, I'd recommend that you just go out, buy Lateralus or Aenima, pop it into your CD player, put on a pair of headphones and listen through it from start to finish.

Listening to a bunch of random Tool songs just doesn't do them justice the way listening to the album as a whole does.

Does Maynard wear a wig or something? He was bald with Tool, and now he has real long hair with APC.

random tool question.

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]A lot of people I know don't like Tool the first time they hear them, but eventually they start to come around. I think Tool take a while to get into. Anyway, it's nice to see someone else has just gotten into Tool's sound, and you will probably grow to appreciate it more as you listen to them more often. I'd suggest you also get Aenima, it's my second favourite album from them (Lateralus being the first), although this thread is split over which of the two they like more.

Suggested songs
Pu**** (Aenima)
Eulogy (Aenima)
Hooker With A ***** (Aenima)
46 & 2 (Aenima)
Sober (Undertow)
Bottom (Undertow)[/QUOTE]


Ive heard a few people say Aenima was good...I may have to check it out now. Thanks GMac :thumb:

WHAT THE HELL IS IN THOSE JELLY BEANS?

Having braved the dystopia that is certain parts of Hollywood, yesterday, at the email suggestion of a member of the ‘Collective’, I dropped in on the guys at their rehearsal space to check out another Tool writing/arranging session. When I arrived around noon, everyone was there except for Danny, but within minutes he pulled up on his motorcycle, carrying a plastic grocery bag containing a couple of oranges, ready to put in a hard day’s work behind that mammoth drum kit of his. Realizing that the band was going to warm up with some older songs before working on the newer compositions, I decided to grab some lunch before planting myself in the middle of the sonic onslaught for several hours with nothing in sight except for DC’s oranges, some sugar-free Red Bulls and a small bowl filled with what appeared to be rather peculiar looking jelly beans.

When I returned, the band had just finished playing one of the newer songs, the one that Danny had earlier described as being his favorite Tool composition to date. I’d heard this lengthy, rhythmically complex song (still untitled, I believe) several weeks ago, but wanted to hear it again, mainly to see what impact Maynard’s vocals would have on it. (NOTE: if it’s any consolation, the chicken burrito and Patron margaritas at El Coyote were quite good). Without any ear-plugs (but thinking that a couple of the jelly beans might suffice), I took at seat in the middle of the guys - about two feet from Adam’s speaker cabinet, six-feet from Justin’s and less than a foot from Danny’s drums (and with all those cymbal crashes and their eternal ringing in his ears). Looking around, the first thing I noticed was that the Dry-Erase message board that the band has used since Opiate days to aid them with their song arrangements was devoid of any ‘mnemonic triggers’ and only contained a jumble of seemingly random letters and what appeared to be a crude depiction of a birthday cake with four lit candles on it. Thinking it might have been drawn by Adam, I asked him about it, but received only a vague answer about it not necessarily being a birthday cake and to look closer. He then added somewhat cryptically that there was room for a fifth candle. With this, I turned to Danny to see if he could shed some light on this apparent conundrum, but, in that he seemed to be equally mystified by something involving his electronic drums, I decided to drop it. About this time, Maynard emerged from a make-shift vocal booth and handed me his latest mock-business card. I could tell you what it said, but I don’t want to shock the pious.

After selecting some samples on the “Deep Violet” electronic drums and adjusting parameters, etc., the band launched into a new song that, at least in my mind, pretty much summed things up about the direction the new record was headed musically. To say that they have taken it up a notch would be an understatement. Several notches, perhaps, might better describe it. This wasn’t just the musical equivalent of terra incognita – this was something borderline Zothyrian, Daedalian in complexity (yet, VERY heavy) with its combination of odd time signatures, dynamics and intricacy of guitar work that was ‘synchronized’ in sections to create those “chromatic s” we all love so much. Danny was doing what he does best (better than ever, I might add), and the acoustic drums were combined with lots of electronic samples of dissonant clocks, warped timpani, eruptions of noise and explosions of what sounded like bizarre artillery.

For this particular song, in certain places, Adam seemed to be using the petals more often to simultaneously trigger his Virus. As for Justin, with his lightning fast bass lines, at times there were riffs that seemed almost unnatural for that instrument. I remember after Lateralus was mastered, when a couple of writers from Bass Player Magazine arrived at the management office to conduct an interview with Justin, I was the one entrusted by the band to select a few songs so that they could first hear the new record prior to doing the interview (no one except for those involved in the production had yet heard Lateralus). I’ll never forget the smile on their faces as they listened (Justin didn’t want to be in the room with them as I played the songs). Well, if they were blown away by his playing then, I’d love to see the expressions on their faces after hearing the new stuff.