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Kronos 09-02-2005 08:52 AM

Alex - good old alternative to trollop - strumpet.
I like that one.

Steerpike 09-02-2005 08:55 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Haha. Mountebank is from Homestarrunner.com, right?[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I'm not sure where I picked that up.

[QUOTE=RumBoy]Alex - good old alternative to trollop - strumpet.
I like that one.[/QUOTE]

Or harlot.

Bartender 09-02-2005 08:56 AM

If you're going back in time in English, then "berk" becomes quite an offensive term; you could use that.

Stoic 09-02-2005 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]No, thee is you, in the accusative case. If I do anything to you, like give you something, or hit you or whatever, it's incorrect to use thou, it's thee. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

ah I saw the light! I thought by case you meant modality for some reason

/retard

how is to be conjugated in old enlgish?

/nerd

[QUOTE=Bartender]If you're going back in time in English, then "berk" becomes quite an offensive term; you could use that.[/QUOTE]

what does it mean?

Kronos 09-02-2005 08:59 AM

Or another one for harlot - drab
They had a lot of words for women of easy virtue in the old days, didn't they?
Manservant - catchfart. That's quite amusing too

Bartender 09-02-2005 09:00 AM

[QUOTE=Stoic]
what does it mean?[/QUOTE]

Well now it means "a foolish person", but it started off as rhyming slang, based on "Berkeley hunt".

I won't elaborate beyond that.

Kronos 09-02-2005 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Well now it means "a foolish person", but it started off as rhyming slang, based on "Berkeley hunt".

I won't elaborate beyond that.[/QUOTE]

I can't think of a bad word rhyme for that.........

Steerpike 09-02-2005 09:04 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]Or another one for harlot - drab
They had a lot of words for women of easy virtue in the old days, didn't they?
Manservant - catchfart. That's quite amusing too[/QUOTE]

The early 20th century was the only other era in time that came up with quite that many colorful euphemisms. Granted, they were all racist, but...

Kronos 09-02-2005 09:05 AM

I am, thou art, he is, we are, you are, they are. It hasn't changed that much really - we've lost the familiar 2nd person "thou". The Germans still have it in the word "du", and the similarity is obvious when you consider
German "Du hast" - you (familiar) have
Old English - "Thou hast" - you (familiar) have

Kronos 09-02-2005 09:07 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]The early 20th century was the only other era in time that came up with quite that many colorful euphemisms. Granted, they were all racist, but...[/QUOTE]
What dost thou mean? Elaborate, with examples, if thou wilst, good Sir

Steerpike 09-02-2005 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]What dost thou mean? Elaborate, with examples, if thou wilst, good Sir[/QUOTE]

Bohunk, bug-eyed Betty, dinge, Ethel, jigaboo, kike, mick, ofay, Reuben...

There's probably more I'm forgetting.

Iron Bars 09-02-2005 09:36 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]I am, thou art, he is, we are, you are, they are. It hasn't changed that much really - we've lost the familiar 2nd person "thou". The Germans still have it in the word "du", and the similarity is obvious when you consider
German "Du hast" - you (familiar) have
Old English - "Thou hast" - you (familiar) have[/QUOTE]

You should be glad they scrapt that out of english along with the plolitness verbs. We still have them and it's (for foreigners) the most anying concept to pick up.

Kronos 09-02-2005 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Bohunk, bug-eyed Betty, dinge, Ethel, jigaboo, kike, mick, ofay, Reuben...

There's probably more I'm forgetting.[/QUOTE]
Kike I know, mick is obvious, and jigaboo is still used in HM Forces a lot - the others I must confess I've never come across. :confused:

Kronos 09-02-2005 10:33 AM

[QUOTE=Iron Bars]You should be glad they scrapt that out of english along with the plolitness verbs. We still have them and it's (for foreigners) the most anying concept to pick up.[/QUOTE]
Yup, we're quite glad. English must be the easiest language in the world to speak, but the hardest to spell! :lol:

Steerpike 09-02-2005 10:40 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]Kike I know, mick is obvious, and jigaboo is still used in HM Forces a lot - the others I must confess I've never come across. :confused:[/QUOTE]

Here's the run-down on the ones you haven't heard:

Bohunk - Eastern European
Bug-eyed Betty - ugly girl
Dinge - black
Ethel - effeminate/gay (precursor to fag, coined a decade or so later)
Ofay - white (eventually lost the derogatory meaning)
Reuben - white trash (Hillbillies specifically)

Kronos 09-02-2005 10:57 AM

Thanks for that - I'm always up for learning new vocabulary. BTW, is dinge pronounced as in cringe?

Stoic 09-02-2005 11:01 AM

english lesson!

Which is correct?

I doubt you go there
I doubt if you go there

on september 6th
in september 6th

song off an album
song off of an album

add in the list
add to the list
add on the list

:D

Kronos 09-02-2005 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=Stoic]english lesson!

Which is correct?

I doubt you go there
I doubt if you go there

on september 6th
in september 6th

song off an album
song off of an album

add in the list
add to the list
add on the list

:D[/QUOTE]
Doubt - 1st one - dates are "on"- song, 1st one (the other is often incorrectly used in my part of england though) add to the list.
I will always be pleased to help with anything else like that.
Where do you come from?
edit - sorry now I can see; Greece.

Steerpike 09-02-2005 12:01 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]Thanks for that - I'm always up for learning new vocabulary. BTW, is dinge pronounced as in cringe?[/QUOTE]

Yes. It's taken from the adjective "dingey" as in, covered in soot and dirt. It's a slur against black people by insulting the color of their skin.

Kronos 09-02-2005 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Yes. It's taken from the adjective "dingey" as in, covered in soot and dirt. It's a slur against black people by insulting the color of their skin.[/QUOTE]
Yes, one of our derogatory terms for black people is sooties, so there's commonality there. Every culture likes putting others down - in China they call Westerners a word that means cattle, because they maintain that we smell like them. Don't expect these terms will ever stop completely :upset:

Lord Abortion 09-02-2005 04:04 PM

Well, this thread went in an odd direction...

Stoic 09-02-2005 04:10 PM

I wonder if anyone in here likes ABBA. I downloaded a metal tribute to them mostly by power metal bands which unfortunately are not quite popular in here.

Therion, Sinergy, Morgana Lefay, Paradox, At Vance, Rough Silk, Metalium, Tad Morose, Custard and a few others

Kronos 09-02-2005 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic]I wonder if anyone in here likes ABBA. I downloaded a metal tribute to them mostly by power metal bands which unfortunately are not quite popular in here.

Therion, Sinergy, Morgana Lefay, Paradox, At Vance, Rough Silk, Metalium, Tad Morose, Custard and a few others[/QUOTE]

I like Abba; their songs are well written and have good structure - and most have an indescribable "sing along" quality. I'd love to hear some "heavied-up" Abba! Any chance of an upload or two?
/sorry if that seems "married and crap" (Lord Abortion..)

NEVRMORE2 09-02-2005 04:25 PM

what album is sleeping sun on? (Nightwish)

Kronos 09-02-2005 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=NEVRMORE2]what album is sleeping sun on? (Nightwish)[/QUOTE]

Oceanborn

Lord Abortion 09-02-2005 04:29 PM

[QUOTE]sorry if that seems "married and crap" (Lord Abortion..)[/QUOTE]

Haha, I just forgot sometimes that you are and that post you made about your wife in the pit jolted my memory...
You're part of an elite group on MX.

Kronos 09-02-2005 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Haha, I just forgot sometimes that you are and that post you made about your wife in the pit jolted my memory...
You're part of an elite group on MX.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind being older than most, I don't mind being married (In fact, being married to my wife is great), but where did the "crap" come from? How do I deserve that?

Lord Abortion 09-02-2005 04:35 PM

Nothing really, it's just like saying "and stuff" to me, sorry if you (or your ladywife took any offence by it)
just my odd mix of upper class English and Machine head style Americanisms...

/tips hat

Stoic 09-02-2005 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]I like Abba; their songs are well written and have good structure - and most have an indescribable "sing along" quality. I'd love to hear some "heavied-up" Abba! Any chance of an upload or two?
[/QUOTE]

Sure, sure! I've been literally obsessed with Abba and there's no one to share my love with :angry: Their songs stick to your head to the point of madness and do really good power metal covers.

Hail to ABBA, the most metal pop band to walk the planet!

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[B]ABBA - Voulez Vous[/B] [I]original[/I]
hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/4658889/13_-_Voulez_vous.mp3.html

hxxp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NVXFWNAKX1542LB9HXF00GH3R

[B]Morgana Lefay - Voulez Vous[/B] [I]cover[/I] :cool:
hxxp://rapidshare.de/files/4659148/05_-_morgana_lefay_-_voulez_vous.mp3.html

hxxp://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LBW6XKWYR1XW1M1F1LJ5Z1NS7

[B]ABBA - Money money money[/B] [I]original[/I]
hxxp://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3AG37E3U1UCEZ0EVF5CC8415A3

[B]At Vance - Money money money[/B] [I]cover[/I]
hxxp://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2RIKULWTY59TZ2VNV4F28VSZ7Y

^tell me it doesnt sound like some late helloween song!

[B]Ywngie Malmsteen - Gimme Gimme Gimme[/B]
hxxp://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IN9RR9YFMUC829AKT6LDFVEQC

DONT FORGET TO REPLACE HXXP WITH HTTP!

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Others are impressive as well especially Tad Morose's, Therion's, At Vance's and Paradox's ;)

Kronos 09-02-2005 04:42 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]Nothing really, it's just like saying "and stuff" to me, sorry if you (or your ladywife took any offence by it)
just my odd mix of upper class English and Machine head style Americanisms...

/tips hat[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see! No worries then. I was just concerned that something about me was crap. Now I understand. No offence taken. :wave:


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