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unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 10:06 AM

I've been trying to learn more Bodom songs since I got my 7 string (real easy to tune down a full step) but my girlfriend won't leave me alone long enough to concentrate. It's getting pretty damn annoying.

I think tonight I will protest and just "get 'er done"

repcak 10-05-2006 10:06 AM

:lol:



:thumb: @ Kurrpts avatar

btw. alexi looks on this picture a little like shred durst :lol:

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 10:09 AM

I started going to guitar center for an hour every day this week just to get 30-60 minutes of more practice in a given day...

A little too obcessive maybe?

repcak 10-05-2006 10:16 AM

no not obsessive if its on the way home... but as far as i know, most guitar centers don't like it if ppl come to them to practise...

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 10:17 AM

i really don't give a fuk. I've dropped about 4000-6000 in that store

repcak 10-05-2006 10:19 AM

oh ok... if you're already famous it doesn't matter... you're right :p

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 10:21 AM

yea, yesterday day the one associate actually recommended I try out this Ibanez because he knew I would like it.

It turns out, he was exactly right. Best fukking neck I've ever played on an Ibanez, and this is coming from a guy that purchased a JEM there, and then traded it back to them because it was trash

repcak 10-05-2006 12:55 PM

wow... i just played guitar again... too stupid i can play only the E,A,D,G,B notes :upset:

but at least i can concentrate only on my picking hand. i do:
-------0-0-0-
0-0-0-------etc

and
-------------0-0-0-0-0
-0-0-0-0-0----------
yeah (5notes)

and some string skipping... and some random rhythms (without metronome)

what else could i do? :lol:


unknownsoldier... you're good in the sense of theory ... some good advice... this can be the best time (for me) to concentrate on proper picking technique.

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 01:01 PM

yea man, thats really what I've been focusing on..... a lot


If I could only work on my picking hand, i would do endurance excercises at slow speeds for an extended period of time. A good example would be like watching TV, yet having the metronome at like 69-80 bpm, and just chug along at 16th notes for a while, yet trying to maintain proper technique.

Also, you could work on arpeggios. Tune your guitar to like an open tuning and just focus on the string making contact with the pick. You need to really feel where on the pick it is making contact.

You could also work on dynamics. Lets say you were playing 16th notes (4 notes per beat). You could really accentuate the down beat (where the click falls) by digging into the string, or giving it more attack. On the subsequent notes after (the other 3 notes of the beat) try to make them softer, yet uniform.

I would also do string skipping exercises. Like, play 4 notes on the Low E, then 4 notes on the A, then 4 notes on the low E, then 4 notes on the D, then 4 notes on the low E, then 4 notes on the G, etc.

I'm sure I could come up with more. That's just off the top of my head

repcak 10-05-2006 01:08 PM

when i do solos stuff my fingers are angled (a slight fist) but when i do rhythm my fingers are placed somwhere on the body of the guitar (mainly right beneath the strings)... is this a bad habit?

when i play songs i change the position, so its never a problem, but right now when concentrating only on my right hand its stupid... maybe i should practise both ways?


ps.: your new avatar owns !!!

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 01:18 PM

thanks, its actually growing on me more and more and more...


as far as your picking technique is concerned, it REALLY doesn't matter, but if it were me, i would try to have it uniform.

I look at guitar similar to the way I used to pitch baseball back in the day. You want find the BEST way to perform an action, and have that as your reference point. Your goal is to have everything be the exact same when you go through the motions. This way, it will allow to find better ways to perform a task, as well as give you that precision you need where you no longer make mistakes

repcak 10-05-2006 01:28 PM

yeah, i have to watch some more guitar vids... f.e.: would like to play like paul gilbert but its the way i only do solo-stuff.
on the other hand my techique is similiar to the one of alexi laiho and Jani Liimatainen (more Jani, than Alexi) - whatever... i have to watch them and decide whats better for me.

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 01:41 PM

theres nothing wrong with watching your guitar heros and trying to cop some technique ideas of them.

The thing is, im really not that impressed with any of the guitarist's technique you've mentioned. If you want to see someone with REALLY good technique, watch some more Michael Romeo videos, or even better, some Buckethead and Shawn Lane videos.

The last 2 people I've mentioned have some of the BEST technique I've ever seen, so thats really who I try to emulate

metalhead_matt 10-05-2006 02:41 PM

how does alexi get his tone for the toyko warhearts live album? i love his tone on that live album

unknownsoldier12 10-05-2006 02:53 PM

i could get close with my setup, but you'd have to ask Mitch or Repcak. I haven't seen NEARLY enough live footage to tell you his setup on that album

MRDuCran 10-05-2006 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=metalhead_matt]how does alexi get his tone for the toyko warhearts live album? i love his tone on that live album[/QUOTE]

Custom Jackson RR-1 with Seymour Duncan pickups I think and it was the first time he used the Je-100 gainboost in his guitar with Children of Bodom.

Modified Lee Jackson gp-1000 pre-amp (perfect connection) with either his Engl or Peavey power amp and a Rocktron Intellifex with 300-watt Marshall cabs.

It's the same stuff he used for Hatebreeder and Follow the Reaper and I think Hate Crew Deathroll.

Po0sH 10-05-2006 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=metalhead_matt;13386882]how does alexi get his tone for the toyko warhearts live album? i love his tone on that live album[/QUOTE]

tbqh i thought it was total crap. Also it had to do with how he was playing, and the rhythms he played very sloppily. Sometimes, I would just listen to Ale just because Alexi was irritating my right ear. Sure maybe it was mixed bad i donno, but check Lake bodom, during the chorus, you cannot hear what he is playing,it just sounds like noise. That sucks. He did the leads very well though, so maybe it was just a mixing issue.

MRDuCran 10-05-2006 05:09 PM

I think his tone was good. Maybe it sounds bad sometimes because he's concentrating on the vocals, not to mention the parts are hard.

The Chaos Ridden Years cd has leaked btw. It's really not that great tbh, even Roope sounds bada lot of the time.

repcak 10-05-2006 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=unknownsoldier12;13386552]theres nothing wrong with watching your guitar heros and trying to cop some technique ideas of them.

The thing is, im really not that impressed with any of the guitarist's technique you've mentioned. If you want to see someone with REALLY good technique, watch some more Michael Romeo videos, or even better, some Buckethead and Shawn Lane videos.

The last 2 people I've mentioned have some of the BEST technique I've ever seen, so thats really who I try to emulate[/QUOTE]
thanks... i will check them out... i have the full Young Guitar video with Michael Romeo.

i don't know Shawn Lane (i suppose Youtube.com?)
But Buckethead...yeah... hm... does there exist any guitarvideos by him... i never saw one.

[QUOTE=unknownsoldier12;13386981]i could get close with my setup, but you'd have to ask Mitch or Repcak. I haven't seen NEARLY enough live footage to tell you his setup on that album[/QUOTE]
repcak -> setup -> amp-question -> bad idea :p

[QUOTE=Po0sH;13387599]tbqh i thought it was total crap. Also it had to do with how he was playing, and the rhythms he played very sloppily. Sometimes, I would just listen to Ale just because Alexi was irritating my right ear. Sure maybe it was mixed bad i donno, but check Lake bodom, during the chorus, you cannot hear what he is playing,it just sounds like noise. That sucks. He did the leads very well though, so maybe it was just a mixing issue.[/QUOTE]
the tokoy warhearts is one of the best live-cd i've heard... and alexi plays all the solos and riffs very very good...

[QUOTE=MRDuCran;13387890]I think his tone was good. Maybe it sounds bad sometimes because he's concentrating on the vocals, not to mention the parts are hard.

The Chaos Ridden Years cd has leaked btw. It's really not that great tbh, even Roope sounds bada lot of the time.[/QUOTE]
hm... bad news... i hope its cause its a leaked version... i hope the tone will be better on the dvd.

MRDuCran 10-05-2006 05:46 PM

Not the tone, the playing.

repcak 10-05-2006 05:56 PM

i can't imagine Roope (!) playing bad :eek:


/good night

MRDuCran 10-05-2006 06:18 PM

Well he doesn't sound that great tbqh. :upset:

Rocksane 10-05-2006 09:11 PM

alexi used totally different settings for hcd from ftr and hatebreeder.

MRDuCran 10-05-2006 10:37 PM

Different mics for the cabs too apparantly.

unknownsoldier12 10-06-2006 07:51 AM

worked through a large portion of that tab last night, and I must say, JOB WELL DONE...

now we just have to coerce you into doing some more CoB tabs

repcak 10-06-2006 07:55 AM

do you know what song buckethead is playing in this video?
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=AWDY3rD71Ic&mode=related&search=[/url]

edit: welcome to bucketland... i've got it... i have to learn this song... awesome :D

unknownsoldier12 10-06-2006 08:06 AM

I'm blocked from that site regardless :/


As i was saying before, if you really pay attention to his technique, you should be able to tell how solid/flawless it really is

repcak 10-06-2006 08:09 AM

yeah, his picking technique is the same as Paul gilberts and the one i would like to use ... i have to practise it, though its difficult.

btw. is it better to play guitar on the left leg or right leg... normally it should be played on the left leg, but buckethead (and even paul gilbert) plays it on the right leg?!

unknownsoldier12 10-06-2006 08:12 AM

i like playing with it on my left leg personally, which is referred to as the "classical" position. That's not to say I won't play with it on my right leg, I just feel its more comfortable the traditional way, and I find it easier to access any fret that way.

As long as you don't find it limiting, I wouldn't really worry about it

repcak 10-06-2006 08:16 AM

yeah ok... i will stay playing on my left leg :D

the buckethead lesson is sick... f.e.: tapping with four fingers (picking head) - he has indeed a great technique...


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