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playwithfire 11-25-2005 10:10 PM

Rock rides have a high-pitched, cutting ping, with a decent amount of wash. It's a strong rock sound. Your crashes will go fine with it.

Dummer'n'Drummer 11-26-2005 12:18 PM

I'm looking for a China:

Extremely Trashy
Very Short Sustain
Fairly Loud

Anything else I should add?

eisle89 11-26-2005 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=playwithfire]Rock rides have a high-pitched, cutting ping, with a decent amount of wash. It's a strong rock sound. Your crashes will go fine with it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks again, a 21" AA Rock Ride it is

3_times_round 11-26-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=Dummer'n'Drummer]I'm looking for a China:

Extremely Trashy
Very Short Sustain
Fairly Loud

Anything else I should add?[/QUOTE]

18" Wuhan or 18" Oriental.

Maybe a 12" Wuhan if you're looking for a very short sustain.

Ethan. 11-26-2005 08:54 PM

I want a crash that sounds like:
pffffffffffff!

:lol: That's the best way I can describe it...

Jersey's Best Dancer 11-26-2005 11:13 PM

I'm getting new cymbals for x-mas and dont know exactly what I should get. I'm looking to get new hats, ride and atleast one cymbal. Price isnt TOO much of a problem..

I play in a punk band now and plan on playing punk and hard rock so I'm looking for sumthing that would fit well into the genre. Thx.

DruMMeR_BoY14 11-27-2005 05:42 AM

Well I'd say look at A Custom crashes and medium crashes, A New/Quick Beat hats and mastersound hats. Rides, well they are pretty personal. If you want to crash on it, I'd say a sweet ride in trad. finish is a good choice. They have IMO a really nice ride sound but hit that edge and you have a beautiful crash sound. You could also see about an A/A custom Ping ride. I have the A model 20" and its a great ride, nice defined ping with a decent amount of wash that will build up over time.

Phototropic 11-27-2005 11:24 AM

Just wanna ask if Stagg cymbals are any good?!

An old drum teacher said they are as good as the top brands

Duno wether he was being truthful

Thanks!

Massik Kretal 11-27-2005 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]I want a crash that sounds like:
pffffffffffff!

:lol: That's the best way I can describe it...[/QUOTE]

lol Ozone crash?

Ethan. 11-27-2005 04:42 PM

Well I was listening to Moby Dick and The last crash before the drum solo sounds kind of like it...

DruMMeR_BoY14 11-27-2005 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=Phototropic]Just wanna ask if Stagg cymbals are any good?!

An old drum teacher said they are as good as the top brands

Duno wether he was being truthful

Thanks![/QUOTE]

High end staggs are awesome cymbals and dirt cheap too. The mid and low end lines leave a bit to be desired though, I don't really like the trashy tones of SH and DH, and the YR's are just plain poo. Myra and up is where its at :cool:

Double Bass Jim 11-27-2005 07:46 PM

Yea i've heard nothing but great things about stagg.

Jersey's Best Dancer 11-27-2005 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]Well I'd say look at A Custom crashes and medium crashes, A New/Quick Beat hats and mastersound hats. Rides, well they are pretty personal. If you want to crash on it, I'd say a sweet ride in trad. finish is a good choice. They have IMO a really nice ride sound but hit that edge and you have a beautiful crash sound. You could also see about an A/A custom Ping ride. I have the A model 20" and its a great ride, nice defined ping with a decent amount of wash that will build up over time.[/QUOTE]

I was looking at A customs and they do seem the best, Thx :thumb:

DruMMeR_BoY14 11-28-2005 12:04 AM

No prob, glad I could help.

MeaninglessPhoto 11-28-2005 10:13 AM

I want a Splash that has a sound to it like a triangle but also have a splash sound to it.

VTDS_xx 11-28-2005 11:59 AM

Alright. I've changed the cymbal setup. Here's what I'm buying, one at a time.

14" AAX Stage Hats
21" AA Rock Ride
19" Vault Crash
17" AA Medium Thin Crash
16" AAX Dark Crash
18" AAX Chinese
14" HHX Evo Mini Chinese
10" HHX Evo Splash
8" HH Splash
13" HH EQ Hats (Aux)

:) Will be teh shizt setup.

3_times_round 11-28-2005 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=VTDS_xx]Alright. I've changed the cymbal setup. Here's what I'm buying, one at a time.

14" A Custom Mastersound Hats
21" A Sweet Ride
19" A Custom Crash
17" K Custom Fast Crash
16" A Custom Crash
18" A China
14" Oriental Trash
10" K Custom Splash
8" A Custom Splash
13" K Custom Dark Hats

:) Will be teh shizt setup.[/QUOTE]

Fixed. THAT will be teh shizt setup :thumb:

playwithfire 11-28-2005 07:52 PM

Well considering I don't like A Custom Mastersounds, K Custom crashes, Oriental Trashes, etc. I would have to disagree ;).

[QUOTE=PoorlyEquipped2112]I want a Splash that has a sound to it like a triangle but also have a splash sound to it.[/QUOTE]6" A or A Custom.

VTDS_xx 11-29-2005 08:58 AM

[QUOTE=3_times_round]Fixed. THAT will be teh shizt setup :thumb:[/QUOTE]
No no no. I'm Sabian's prostitute. Silly.

Btw, I would go with A New Beats over A Custom Mastersounds and K/Z Dynos over K Darks. :) Pretty sweet otherwise.

Oh yeah, 18" and 14" Trashes. Only Zildjian Chinas I like.

chewaz 11-29-2005 10:07 PM

a 22" AA rock ride or an 21" rock ride or an 24" ROCK RIDE?

playwithfire 11-29-2005 10:15 PM

Depends how much volume and wash you want man. If you want a crazy loud, dry cymbal, go with the 24". Personally, I think it would probably be the least versatile cymbal you'll ever play, and I would recommend a 21" or 22".

DruMMeR_BoY14 11-30-2005 05:45 AM

yeah a 24" would be too much, go with a 21".

playwithfire 11-30-2005 06:45 AM

Yeah, 21" Rock rides are great. 22" rides are awesome if they aren't heavy or extra heavy in general I find.

genesisdrummer91 11-30-2005 07:58 PM

i need a second crash, rite now i have a sabian HH think crash and i want something bright to go with it. preferably sabian cuz of massmusic. thanks

Seafroggys 12-01-2005 01:31 AM

^^AA's definitally....

playwithfire 12-01-2005 02:32 AM

Yeah, AA Medium is great.

DruMMeR_BoY14 12-01-2005 07:04 AM

AA Medium/medium thin, both great crashes.

playwithfire 12-01-2005 07:37 AM

I've got an 18" A Medium Thin. Great crash, same goes for the AA.

billy_spleen 12-02-2005 08:10 AM

hi,

i'm thinking of buying a new ride cymbal, but i don't know whether to choose a 20" zildjian K, or an A custom Custom Ride. i mean i realise the price and stuff is a bit different. i won't be doing any gigs or anything, just jamming around with my friends, so should i go the A?

and can somebody please tell me what the ZXTi cymbals are like?

Thanks

DruMMeR_BoY14 12-02-2005 08:30 AM

Ok, well I'll start with the easy stuff.

ZXTi are really horrible cymbals, they are made from cheap metal and sound cheap, the titanium coating does nothign but bad for them. All around stear clear.

Now, as for the K/A Custom lines your looking at two totally different sounds. The K's are dark, warm cymbals that will bend into the music while A Customs are Bright and shimmering cymbals that will cut through the music.

Ask yourself which sound you'd like. The K would be a beautiful Cymbal for jazz/pop/rock, but don't take it to a metal or hardcore gig. The A Custom Would be good for pop/rock/metal/hardcore.


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