[QUOTE=NJMetalMeister]Well it all depends on if you actually understand baseball or not, considering that the original analogy was directed towards americans, i felt it was good enough. Basically the analogy is you like a certain sports team, said team makes it to the finals of whatever sport they play, and that team just barely loses (in this case referencing the very close last two elections, where the democrats only lost by a hair), even though they can try again in the next year (or election year in this case), you wouldnt necessarily stop liking the sports team or the sport entirely, whereas many Democrats, or people who voted against bush (there are third parties, obviously) are starting to be hellbent against the american government and society.[/QUOTE]

It's not really a perfect analogy though, is it? Since the reason people are despairing of the system isn't just because they lost, it's because as they saw it they lost in an unfair election. Just like baseball fans may go off baseball if their favourite team keeps losing because the opposition is allowed to pitch beachballs at them, or something. I'm sorry, I've not been to many baseball games.

Morning all.

NP Oasis & Eminem & Green Day & Travis - I don't think it has a name, but it's pretty good.

Hey how many of you guys are doin the Metal Comp.?

and if so what songs?

You can see the dibs in the first page of the thread :)

[QUOTE=Bartender]It's not really a perfect analogy though, is it? Since the reason people are despairing of the system isn't just because they lost, it's because as they saw it they lost in an unfair election. Just like baseball fans may go off baseball if their favourite team keeps losing because the opposition is allowed to pitch beachballs at them, or something. I'm sorry, I've not been to many baseball games.

Morning all.

NP Oasis & Eminem & Green Day & Travis - I don't think it has a name, but it's pretty good.[/QUOTE]

Well i never said it was a perfect analogy, just a good one, which it is.

[QUOTE=\m/Pete\m/]Hey how many of you guys are doin the Metal Comp.?

and if so what songs?[/QUOTE]

I am, hopefully, as long as all my gear is still in working order when i get back to the US on monday to record the guitars and what not (already have the drums done)

The song is "A problem yet to be solved" by anata

Yeah I know there's a dibs page...I was just trying to spark a conversation

Ive been up all night and Im very bored

Haha, sureley when you edited you could have wiped out the question...?

Which Kyuss album should i get first?

God Im so tired

thank you kind sir

[QUOTE=clearvision]Haha, sureley when you edited you could have wiped out the question...?

Which Kyuss album should i get first?[/QUOTE]

I always hear good things about [I]Welcome to the Sky Valley[/I] and [I]Blues for the Red Sun[/I], I don't own them though, and haven't heard enough from them to make a judgement, but still.

Ok. Ok. Ok.

Im so angry. What do you do when you get into an argument with some who says that Maiden are a repetive band who are more about the image than the music, but who says Jack White is God? Jake says punch him but i cant see him at the minute.

[QUOTE=Arucard]Ok. Ok. Ok.

Im so angry. What do you do when you get into an argument with some who says that Maiden are a repetive band who are more about the image than the music, but who says Jack White is God? Jake says punch him but i cant see him at the minute.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Jake is an aggressive fellow.

I find maiden repetitive, and I think Jack white is semi-talented (though most white stripe stuff is awful). I think in a different blues-based band he would shine more...But I obviously wouldn't use the terms above, and i don't really think maiden are really image conscious atall, all the artwork stuff is just playfull i think.

Thanks superpeer, though i looked at the samples on amazon, and Kyuss osund like a heavy mr bungle. I think I'll give them a miss...

[QUOTE=Arucard]Ok. Ok. Ok.

Im so angry. What do you do when you get into an argument with some who says that Maiden are a repetive band who are more about the image than the music, but who says Jack White is God? Jake says punch him but i cant see him at the minute.[/QUOTE]

Well you could go for the cheap shots like saying, "All about image? That's interesting coming from a guy who listens to a group in which the drummer's claim to fame is not wearing a bra."

You could also point out that by saying Iron Maiden is repetitive, he has likely never heard an entire album by them. Another argument you could use is that while Bruce combines classical and theatrical singing styles with metal and Dave, Adrian, and Janick blend the best of speed metal, classical influences, and bluesy emotion, all Jack White does is produce radio-friendly riffs that match the vocal melody.

I said alot of those things Steerpike, but thanks for the advice. He annoyed me when he said 'All songs are based around one riff' and i said 'have you ever heard of Prog?' He comes back with the most chilidish, i've lost this argument retort ever.

'No, but i've heard of co[U]c[/U]k.'

[QUOTE=Arucard]I said alot of those things Steerpike, but thanks for the advice. He annoyed me when he said 'All songs are based around one riff' and i said 'have you ever heard of Prog?' He comes back with the most chilidish, i've lost this argument retort ever.

'No, but i've heard of ****.'[/QUOTE]

Alright, where is the little twerp. Let me deal with this. I'll have his spirit crushed and maimed within 5 minutes.

EDIT: To a childish response like that, you want to reply with something along the lines of, "How long you been saving that little chestnut?"

Woah, calm down this is getting witty :lol:

It's pretty obvious this dudes attitude isn't gonna be change. to be fair he has got a point, he doesn't like iron maiden's up tempo power metal type of riff, which can sound pretty darn similair. He likes Jack white's style of bluesy accompaniment to the vocals. Now when you try and show his ignorance he replied with the [size=4]co[/size]ck line, no-one likes to be ignorant so he just ended the argument...

/Is bored and likes sticking up for the losing team.

[QUOTE=clearvision]Woah, calm down this is getting witty :lol:

It's pretty obvious this dudes attitude isn't gonna be change. to be fair he has got a point, he doesn't like iron maiden's up tempo power metal type of riff, which can sound pretty darn similair. He likes Jack white's style of bluesy accompaniment to the vocals. Now when you try and show his ignorance he replied with the [size=4]co[/size]ck line, no-one likes to be ignorant so he just ended the argument...

/Is bored and likes sticking up for the losing team.[/QUOTE]

Fools need to be put in their place. I don't tolerate that sort of behaviour in people. Rather than being a close-minded little twit, he should have listened.

Joe, I don't know why you get so worked up when somebody doesn't agree with you.

People make fun of the music I like all the time, but who cares?

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Fools need to be put in their place. I don't tolerate that sort of behaviour in people. Rather than being a close-minded little twit, he should have listened.[/QUOTE]

But he has an opinion, why can't it be valid?. So? He likes the white stripes now, he'll probably move on to Zeppelin and end up at Iron Maiden someday. I garuntee i can play the most acclaimed Maiden song to most of my friends and they will turn round and be like wtf? There are a few into heavy-ish music. But mostly they're all green day fans, and won't even appreciate relativeley light music like APC...

[QUOTE=clearvision]But he has an opinion, why can't it be valid?. So? He likes the white stripes now, he'll probably move on to Zeppelin and end up at Iron Maiden someday. I garuntee i can play the most acclaimed Maiden song to most of my friends and they will turn round and be like wtf? There are a few into heavy-ish music. But mostly they're all green day fans, and won't even appreciate relativeley light music like APC...[/QUOTE]

Everyone can have an opinion, but if you cannot show any respect to yours or others', then you have no right to your own.

Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean that he has no respect for it.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]Everyone can have an opinion, but if you cannot show any respect to yours or others', then you have no right to your own.[/QUOTE]
Isn't that circular reasoning? I mean, are you guys showing respect for his opinion? Especially the person who brought it up, who got pissed because some dude doesn't like Maiden but does like The White Stripes.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Isn't that circular reasoning? I mean, are you guys showing respect for his opinion? Especially the person who brought it up, who got pissed because some dude doesn't like Maiden but does like The White Stripes.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing.

[QUOTE=Slug]Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean that he has no respect for it.[/QUOTE]

I don't tolerate the sort of behavior he was showing. Regardless of opinion, there's no reason to act that childish.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Isn't that circular reasoning? I mean, are you guys showing respect for his opinion? Especially the person who brought it up, who got pissed because some dude doesn't like Maiden but does like The White Stripes.[/QUOTE]

It's not his opinion I have a problem with, it's the fact he's being a brat about it. Until someone is going to act mature, I will treat them as I would a misbehaving child. I have no patience for fools, nor do I make any apologies for it.

[QUOTE=clearvision]But he has an opinion, why can't it be valid?. So? He likes the white stripes now, he'll probably move on to Zeppelin and end up at Iron Maiden someday. I garuntee i can play the most acclaimed Maiden song to most of my friends and they will turn round and be like wtf? There are a few into heavy-ish music. But mostly they're all green day fans, and won't even appreciate relativeley light music like APC...[/QUOTE]

He likes Zeppelin already, he was actually trying to start this argument with me. And none of my friends are metalheads, one is a grunge fan, and the others like punk, its just when people deliberatly start arguments with me by baiting me that i get angry, and the fact that he's a stupid anarcho brat who listens to Rage and thinks hes a rebel.

This is the only person i argue with about music ever, you never see me taking the piss out of you guys for the music you like.

[QUOTE=Arucard]This is the only person i argue with about music ever, you never see me taking the piss out of you guys for the music you like.[/QUOTE]

I like tool so it's tough for you to do that. :p

[QUOTE=Arucard]and the fact that he's a stupid anarcho brat who listens to Rage and thinks hes a rebel.[/QUOTE]

You mean he's one of those types who wears a Che Guevera T-shirt and has to idea who Che was?

If I was to get a Celtic Frost album which one should I get?

[QUOTE=Six Foot Revolver]If I was to get a Celtic Frost album which one should I get?[/QUOTE]

I personally liked Into the Pandemonium, but To Mega Therion is a good one too.

The only one I would say to avoid is Cold Lake, but that's so longer in circulation anyway.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]You mean he's one of those types who wears a Che Guevera T-shirt and has to idea who Che was?[/QUOTE]

Yes, and also 'smokes weed because it spaces him out and makes him see into the sub-normal.'

And Clearvision : Sorry about my Tool hating.

[QUOTE=Steerpike]You mean he's one of those types who wears a Che Guevera T-shirt and has to idea who Che was?[/QUOTE]
Heh. I knew a kid who thought it was Bob Marley on the shirt. Ahh, that was funny.

Ok, great story time. So last night at about 1:00 AM, I wake up, and I heard a bunch of sirens. I look out my window, and I see a load of cop cars heading my way. My parents were like wtf? so I went down stairs to ask them what was going on. My dad went outside, and the cops stopped, and they told him that they were chasing a guy who had a gun and some drugs. They asked my dad if he had seen the car, but he hadn't, because the sirens woke us up, not the actual druggie driving by. So, here are these 9 cop cars, and they think that they chases this guy into one of our corn fields, so they go down the road, and they're trying to find this guy, but every last one of them are these fata[B][I][/I][/B]*** morons who have no clue how to coordinate,(There were cops from Sunnyside, Mabton, Grandview, some staters, and the sherrif) so they didn't find the guy. This morning, I wake up, and my dad looks out the window towards the field this guy was hiding in, and the guy was walking down the road toward our house.(oh shi') I walked over to the window, and my dad went downstairs. I asked him where he was going. "To get my shotgun."

:amaze:

Then, when I was still looking out the window, I saw the guy jump into one of the unsuspecting worker's trucks. "Uhh, dad, Jessie is giving this guy a ride." "Shi[B][I][/I][/B]t."

So my dad called the moron idiot cops again, and they showed up about half an hour ago, and guess what. They chased the bas[B][I][/I][/B]tard into another corn field. :lol: Protect and serve. refl.