Geeze... I love drumming to Tool, figuring out his awesome beats. Sometimes it takes a bit of time, but HECK is it worth it! But yeah, if any drummers in the house are scared of some of the beats, just play whatever you feel and mess around, its extremely fun!

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]As for artwork, I agree, the stuff in Lateralus is awesome. My least favorite album art would have to be Porcupine Tree's. Aside from the IA album cover, they've never had a really captivating cover. Their band PHOTOS, on the other hand, are badass awesome.[/QUOTE]

I love the artwork on Deadwing.

[QUOTE=deadinholywood]Please explain this and then name me one band who puts more thought or care into all facets of their art than Tool.[/QUOTE]
Pig Destroyer.
Isis.
Neurosis.

:p

As if, none of thse bands mentioned put more work into their videos!

I've been seriously thinking about investing in a cheap kit, but I want to play some Tool songs, so to any drummers: What are some of Danny Carey's easiest songs to play? I realize that question is somewhat of a parable, but just answer it, please. :p

It'll probably be at least a month before I get them, but yeah, I've been getting anxious, so I figured I would ask.

I'd tell you but I haven't listened to Tool in a long time and I don't have any Tool since my harddrive fried. Either way, don't start with Tool. You'll have a really hard time, so start with somthing like Rage Against The Machine (which will still give you a challenge).

If you've never played drums before, seriously don't start with Tool. Start off with some radio rock for the first few weeks. Work up to stuff like RatM, which is fairly simple, but not rank amature stuff. Then if you want to try Tool, go for the Opiate EP first, then the albums in order have the more challenging drum stuff on them.

[QUOTE=Shadius]As if, none of thse bands mentioned put more work into their videos![/QUOTE]
Good point.

BUT

I would say that Pig Destroyer puts more emotion into their songs than any other band I've ever heard.

Emotion is defined 100% by your own opinion, though.

Then again, so is this entire topic. Not that it's a bad thing, it's what the forum is all about. :p

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Emotion is defined 100% by your own opinion, though.

Then again, so is this entire topic. Not that it's a bad thing, it's what the forum is all about. :p[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I was thinking about that after I posted that comment.

Alot of people check out Pig Destroyer because of my fan-boyism, and they're dissapointed. Because I act like it;'s the best thing in the world.

But to me, it is :p

Aren't they like, grindcore or something close to it?

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Aren't they like, grindcore or something close to it?[/QUOTE]
Just grind, but yeah, good stuff.

Would you mind sending some to [email]spiralout7@gmail.com[/email], please? I'd like to hear them, since you seem so giddy about them all the time. Either that, or you could just message them to my myspace, since I frequent that site more than my email.

And yes, I beleive they're gXc. :p

I'd like to hear a song as well, [email]somebodysomeone509@hotmail.com[/email]

I'd say check out some Agoraphobic Nosebleed. Crazy ****.

Another grind band?

And how's that stuff I sent you working out Moses?

Yeah another grind band.

I downloaded both EOR and In Memory today and I'm burning it tomorrow. Thanks alot for that. And with the Porcupine Tree I should have told you I already have Deadwing and LS. I used to have In Absentia but it got erased off of my hard drive.

[QUOTE=Moses]Yeah another grind band.

I downloaded both EOR and In Memory today and I'm burning it tomorrow. Thanks alot for that. And with the Porcupine Tree I should have told you I already have Deadwing and LS. I used to have In Absentia but it got erased off of my hard drive.[/QUOTE]
Damn! you should have told me that! :lol:

I'll have to get you something else then.

[QUOTE=deadinholywood]Please explain this and then name me one band who puts more thought or care into all facets of their art than Tool.[/QUOTE]

I didn't say they don't put thought or care into their art. "Most thoughtful" or "most effortful" would definitely spin off some of the most bloated and opinionated responses ever, what's the point? And Sigur Ros would not be one of my answers, I'd suggest Pain of Salvation, Haggard or Ayreon but that's unrelated.

As for all songs sounding the same, I obviously don't mean the entire song is the same (see:Nickelback), but rather they rarely deviate from their sound. Example: Lateralus. Or even Opiate from their debut. Name me the song you know from Tool that sounds the furthest thing from that song discounting jokes like Faaip de Oaid or Message to Harry Manback. Hell, I really don't hear Lateralus or Opiate as profoundly different, as much as "3 Libras" might sound from "The Package" or "Judith". This may be a good thing to many fans, as hey, Tool sticks to the style. But I digress. The fact is, someone was pretty much saying everyone would agree Tool makes better music than APC which...I have to disagree. Tool's still on a "Top Ten Must Listen" for me, I just had to voice that not everyone in the world agrees they sound better than APC.


[QUOTE=Magicaltroll]Good point.

BUT

I would say that Pig Destroyer puts more emotion into their songs than any other band I've ever heard.[/QUOTE]

More like Anal cun_t. "311 Sucks" sure pulls on my heartstrings.

Interesting, I feel the other way around. I feel theres a huge change from Opiate to Lateralus. Example? Listen to Sweat, then listen to Reflection. Theres growth and style change there. Or even something from the same record, Disposition and Ticks & Leeches. Where as APC, while I love them, and get a lot out of listening to them, I feel they sound a bit similar throughout. The slower sounds all sound kind of similar to me. But this is all really opinionated, obviously.

Instead of being the resident a.s.s.hole on the Tool thread, I've uploaded the new Puscifer (Maynard's side project) song on the upcoming Underworld Evolution soundtrack. Took a long *** time to find because the soundtrack isn't even released yet.

[url]http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1L8AHRLNLX14Q33NBHEFTW2SSU[/url]

Disposition/Reflection compared to Jerk Off? You think they sound similiar?

Oshi

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Aren't they like, grindcore or something close to it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah.
But they're quite different from every other band I've heard that are plaved in that genre.

I'm convinced that Scott Hull (their guitarist) is a musical genius though.
If you listen to their new stuff, it's really amazing how everything flows, and how complicated some of the riffs are. And those riffs, alongside J.R.'s lyrics, is in my opinion, everything music should be.

An emotional rollercoaster ;)

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Disposition/Reflection compared to Jerk Off? You think they sound similiar?

Oshi[/QUOTE]
Did you check out Pain of Salvation at all?

[QUOTE=TempermentalGoat]I didn't say they don't put thought or care into their art. "Most thoughtful" or "most effortful" would definitely spin off some of the most bloated and opinionated responses ever, what's the point? And Sigur Ros would not be one of my answers, I'd suggest [B]Pain of Salvation[/B], Haggard or Ayreon but that's unrelated.
[/QUOTE]

POS=best music ever

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Disposition/Reflection compared to Jerk Off? You think they sound similiar?

Oshi[/QUOTE]

Tool somehow has an underlying feeling to their songs that make you recognise them no matter how varying the music is. It's like Faith No More in a way.

[QUOTE]Instead of being the resident a.s.s.hole on the Tool thread, I've uploaded the new Puscifer (Maynard's side project) song on the upcoming Underworld Evolution soundtrack. Took a long *** time to find because the soundtrack isn't even released yet.[/QUOTE] I hated it... Reminds me too much of Feersum whatever.

Ugh the soundtrack for the new movie looks (judging by the bands featured) much worse than the one for the origional. I really liked the work done on the first album it was dark with a good collection of lighter and heavy songs.

Lateralus sounds absolutely nothing like Opiate, wash your ears out!

There's a progression that you can follow that lets you know it's the same band from album to album, but if you jumped right from the EP to Lateralus, you wouldn't even think it was the same band, there's pretty much no reason to think you would, other than possibily recognising the vocalist, but his style is drastically different on many songs (different on all). The song structure and style is totally different, as well as the tone of the instruments.

*d/ling that song now.

The song know your enemy. When maynard sang live with RATM Danny carey played floor tom and hit a crash :cool:

Yo, Tool fans.

Whats crackin' in the thread at the moment?