I'm sure they have their reasons.

According to this forum ska bands are advised to center their touring schedules around playing Ajax/Toronto every two weeks.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket;15471082]According to this forum ska bands are advised to center their touring schedules around playing Ajax/Toronto every two weeks.[/QUOTE]

i just don't see why go through every major city in the US and not hit one canadian city.

they just did, it wasn't a canadian tour, they came here on nights off from RBF and LTJ didn't they? cause they love us so much?

Ajax is where it's at.

no ajax sucks goddamit i hate living here! im thinking of moving to london or maybe even K-W area. in the next couple of years.


anyways back to my point, cant everyone just chill and actually listen to the album. without analyzing and juding every ****ing note. TAKE a step back and just moss to the music for a bit. honestly way to take the fun out of the music. Im sure most people will agree that this is a very good album, but why does everyone need to pick it apart, looking for fault. OF COURSE if you look hard enough you'll find fault in anything. The album probly took so long because theres people like you guys complaining that a couple notes were not PERFECTLY thought out with a deeper meaning behind it.

They're just observations as to what works and what doesn't.

its because the last one was so good the expectation were huge and i think some people were let down a little.

[QUOTE=Jessizzle;15474105]no ajax sucks goddamit i hate living here! im thinking of moving to london or maybe even K-W area. in the next couple of years.
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Yeah, thats pretty much it. We need bands to come here or else we're stuck going to the gym or something I can't be bothered with. I am here til University, then hopefully I'll be in London.

As for the album, I was just expecting something different, not more of the same. I'll probably have to give it awhile.

Judging music in depth is what separates it from mainstream stuff. It's why there is highly respected publishers like pitchfork, CMJ and even Rolling Stone. Hype can ruin an opinion at first so its good to really gather whats going on before we say its so awesome and its a classic. I think most will say that Somewhere in the Between is good but now we have to say why it isn't groundbreaking like we were hoping.

[QUOTE=fathergoat;15474565]Yeah, thats pretty much it. We need bands to come here or else we're stuck going to the gym or something I can't be bothered with. I am here til University, then hopefully I'll be in London.

As for the album, I was just expecting something different, not more of the same. I'll probably have to give it awhile.[/QUOTE]

I personally expected EGN 2 and thats exactly what it was, im so happy haha. the trick is, if you dont have high expectations, you wont get dissapointed!!

and do you live in north or south? i live in the village areaaish.

See jess, its called critical thinking. You gotta use it sometimes.

Today my teacher actually said that deep down, i was a genius, im just not good at school and that sorta stuff.

The album is growing on me. It's not mind-blowing at all, but it's still pretty cool. My list of qualms goes like this:

1. Some parts of songs just don't sound right where they are
2. Drums should be louder. Not so that it sounds horribly recorded, but just to make it more personable and reminiscent of their first album.
3. More variation in song structure. A lot of songs sound similar, and there's not much difference from EGN, which isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

Am I the only one who sees massive difference between this and EGN?

I don't see a huge difference. EGN just has more better songs, but SitB is awesome as well. It's pretty much the ideal follow up I was expecting.

I don't know what the **** where you guys expecting. A totally different album than EGN? It is pretty different actually, only really similar song being Watch It Crash.

I truly think you were expecting way too much. I agree with Jess here, you don't need to have huge expectations because most likely it will ruin the experience for you. Hell, you even should be thankful they put out another good album. It's not a classic, it has hits and misses but what is classic these days? Where you expecting some kind of London Calling or what? I just don't get it.

[QUOTE=albert_bass;15475066]I don't know what the **** where you guys expecting. A totally different album than EGN? It is pretty different actually, only really similar song being Watch It Crash.

I truly think you were expecting way too much. I agree with Jess here, you don't need to have huge expectations because most likely it will ruin the experience for you. Hell, you even should be thankful they put out another good album. It's not a classic, it has hits and misses but what is classic these days? Where you expecting some kind of London Calling or what? I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]

Now this.

This album is really growing on me.

We Will Fall Together is probably my favorite song ATM because I love the chorus. Some songs are not that memorable but overall, a great album.

Can ska really go in any direction but similar to something someone has done before.

[QUOTE=Flagjacket;15475173]Can ska really go in any direction but similar to something someone has done before.[/QUOTE]

people said the same thing about rock and roll 50 years ago.

That doesn't make it true for ska which has been around for like 40 years already.

but ska has changed so much.. from first wave to third wave??

I was just making an observation based on how everyone is all "aww Streetlights album sounds like their last one"

i dont see whats wrong with that though... if they did something diffrent everyone would be like aw man this album sucks, they shoulda just made another album like EGN...

but kev, i love you always <3

[QUOTE=Flagjacket;15475173]Can ska really go in any direction but similar to something someone has done before.[/QUOTE]

of all the genres i can think of, ska and metal are really the only ones progressing at all...

[QUOTE=Jessizzle;15475322]i dont see whats wrong with that though... if they did something diffrent everyone would be like aw man this album sucks, they shoulda just made another album like EGN...

but kev, i love you always <3[/QUOTE]

I didn't say anything was wrong with it I haven't even listened to the album I'm just saying that people are all complaining that it doesn't differ much when I don't think it could really go anywhere else to begin with.

P@SkaRobotArmy: ..... really?

good album, just doesn't measure up to tom's other stuff.

[QUOTE=Jessizzle;15474807]
and do you live in north or south? i live in the village areaaish.[/QUOTE]

I live off Delaney (near the Dominion off of Westney Road) and started going to Pickering High in 2003 . :chug:

hhaha ****. ... why havnt you graduated yet?? and you live real close to me.. i live like in hermatige.. and i also go to pickering high.

I am in my extra semester. I graduated with an 80 average but needed calc and physics to get have better prereq's for Biochem.

What grade are you in?

Ooo, Jess and Fathergoat meet up for sXe.

And so I've finally gotten to give this new album a listen, thanks to JumpThe****Up :) And I like it, it's good s[I]hi[/I]t.

Yeah, I don't see why people are complaining that it's similar to EGN, I mean seriously, it's ska punk. How much variation can you actually get? For a genre that has a lot of repitition (Reel Big Fish lololol), this album is a breath of fresh air. I mean, most of the songs are different in their sound and it's easy enough to differentiate between the tracks from EGN and SitB, so why complain?

But yeah, the drums suck. That's pretty much the only negative.

[QUOTE=JumpTheF**kUp;15480733]Yeah, I don't see why people are complaining that it's similar to EGN, I mean seriously, it's ska punk. How much variation can you actually get? For a genre that has a lot of repitition (Reel Big Fish lololol), this album is a breath of fresh air. I mean, most of the songs are different in their sound and it's easy enough to differentiate between the tracks from EGN and SitB, so why complain?

But yeah, the drums suck. That's pretty much the only negative.[/QUOTE]

I didn't really notice that much that's wrong with the drums, they're not awful or anything...? Or am I missing something here...

And yeah, my favorite tracks have gotta' be the last two, "The Receiving End Of It All" and "What A Wicked Gang We Are".

Both really cool songs, and they're sorta' different from the rest of Streetlights stuff, in the way that they're just a lot darker sounding.

[QUOTE=DougJI;15474925]Am I the only one who sees massive difference between this and EGN?[/QUOTE]

No, they feel completely different.

On the surface are the distinctive voice, the fact that horns don't have much variation in timber, he uses the same two guitar settings for everything and it's probably a similar drum kit and bass setup.

The songs drift between aimless and tight far more than EGN. The lyrics are less silly too. He forces words to conform to his rhythm on this album, rather than choosing words based on how they fit his songs like he did occasionally on the last one.

I don't feel what's so wrong with the drums either. I think it has to be with the drums on EGN being so ****ing awesome. Really, drumming in the first album was jaw dropping. Maybe that's why people complain about drumming in SiB so much.

Anyways I'm not a drummer, maybe one could explain us what they feel is wrong.

yea, it's a different drummer than the one who recorded EGN i believe so thats why. but its just that the playing isn't as awesome, its their low level in the mix just makes it feel less raw and energetic.

Yeah the drums are way further underneath everything else.

Well so far those opinions feel totally biased. I mean, the drums are low = the drums are bad? So what if they are low? It's not like they make the record sound any worse. The bass was very low in EGN and that didn't take away any awesomeness to it (the bass nor the whole album). Seriously, someone could give me a valid reason of why the drumming sucks in SiB?

it doesn't suck. he's still got great beats but thats all they are, just beats. in the first album they were more than that i could listen to the whole album and just listen to the drums.
but i agree about the bass, i think so far its louder on this one.