[QUOTE=YouGottaBeCrazy]hmmm...I happen to like "Pet" the most on 13th Step.[/QUOTE]

Amen. I love that song. Gravity and the Package are good as well.

And on another note, the tool dvds are a waste of money. Yeah, they;re cheap, but not worth the money. The videos are awesome, as are the menus, but the remixes and commentaries are trash. The commentaries have almost nothing to do with the videos and are mostly rantings and irrelevent remarks. i expected them to be thoughtful insight on the meaning of the videos. Guess not.

Eh the Parabola DVD is easily worth the money, that's the best music video I've ever seen.

"The Noose" by APC is possibly the most beautiful song ever written.

Yeah, the Parabola DVD is nice, worth every penny....even though i wish Tool would stop putting out DVD releases and proceed with another Album.
My favorite APC song on 13th step is "Pet"

While on the subject of APC....my favorite song off of Thirteenth Step would be Gravity, unlike it seems many people here.

I think the commentary on the Parabola DVD is great. Me and my friend laughed.

I'll have to agree with Diego, I am a huge fan of Gravity. One of my favs off of 13th Step.

[QUOTE=Diego]While on the subject of APC....my favorite song off of Thirteenth Step would be Gravity, unlike it seems many people here.[/QUOTE]

It's my favorite after Pet, which is just so damn good

Eh, the dvds are alright. The videos are the most amazing videos i've ever seen. The commentaries were funny, but too random. and the remixes...i didnt have the patience to listen to them in their entirety.

the parabola dvd commentary is a ****in trip

I listened to one by taking the jack out of my DVD player. It made a hell of a lot more sense.

I'm definately buying the parabola dvd if I get the chance

edit: [url]http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=703460[/url] hehehehe.. look at the genre

Pop..?

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]I'm definately buying the parabola dvd if I get the chance

edit: [url]http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=703460[/url] hehehehe.. look at the genre[/QUOTE]

oh...my...god...

(weeps softly)

Well, it's true :p

[QUOTE=Otherside]Well, it's true :p[/QUOTE]
Pfft, more like Proggressive Pop.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Pfft, more like Proggressive Pop.[/QUOTE]
Oxymoron.

[QUOTE=Moses]Oxymoron.[/QUOTE]

Nah not really.

see: Catch Without Arms.

/almost pwned

CWA=rock with some progressive influences

There is no way a Cindy Lauper type song could be progressive.

[QUOTE=Moses]/almost pwned

CWA=rock with some progressive influences[/QUOTE]

Pft.

El Cielo = Progressive Rock
Catch Without Arms = Progressive Pop

:smoke:

El Cielo= Prog rock
CWA= Modern rock with a hint of progressiveness.

We'll just have to agree to disagree :p

dredg=good

/topic

Seriously though CWA doesn't really sound progressive to me. Straight up modern rock with some progressive things in it.

No such thing as progressive pop. Brittany Spears could never make any of her songs progressive and have them still called pop.

Since we're on the topic of dredg, I personally think that Leitmotif kicks the living crap out of their other two albums. I'm probably alone on this, as most people seem to adore El Cielo, but I really dig Leitmotif. I really didn't appreciate the album until I learned a few of the songs from it on guitar. I took Engles' style for granted, but after learning Symbol Song and Movement I (numbers go here), I began to realize how unique of a style he has.

[QUOTE=Moses]Seriously though CWA doesn't really sound progressive to me. Straight up modern rock with some progressive things in it.

No such thing as progressive pop. Brittany Spears could never make any of her songs progressive and have them still called pop.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. What if she started using a more unique song structure, and had longer songs, but still overall the same general type of music?

And yes, I am arguing just for the sake of it. :D


/hasn't heard any Dredg

Well you only got El Cielo a little while ago.@ Jake

Pop= popular music
unique song structures= not popular

In fact:
unique= not popular

[QUOTE=Moses]Well you only got El Cielo a little while ago.@ Jake

Pop= popular music
unique song structures= not popular

In fact:
unique= not popular[/QUOTE]
Tr00f. :upset:


/looses the argument I never really supported

You can't seriously be calling all pop music monotoneous. Pop doesn't mean mainstream by the way. Indie-pop bands like The Arcade Fire and The Shins are definitley unique.

Never said monotoneous just not unique, because if you want to be popular you can't do somthing weird, atleast nobody has. Indie-pop isn't really pop anyway.

Lightbulb Sun is a pop album, yet at the same time, it is very progressive. If jazz metal can be done, then prog pop can be done.