I love the first three songs on the new Gorgoroth. I can't remember the rest.

can i get some recs for BM like Alcest?

Amesoeurs

You might have this already but Blut Aus Nord -Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars

[I]shoegaze black metal[/I]

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17940213]You might have this already but Blut Aus Nord -Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars[/QUOTE]

Absolutely nothing like Alcest. There aren't even slight similarities.

clean vikings?

unheard of

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17940213]You might have this already but Blut Aus Nord -Memoria Vetusta II: Dialogue with the Stars[/QUOTE]

Love that album.

[quote=TimJim;17940200]can i get some recs for BM like Alcest?[/quote]

Any other Neige project pretty much

Amesoeurs, Mortifera

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17940262]Absolutely nothing like Alcest. There aren't even slight similarities.[/QUOTE]

They are both French and it's all "majestic post-blackmetally". I'm sure if you like Alcest you will like that BAN album.

shut up faggot

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17940649]I'm sure if you like Alcest you will like that BAN album.[/QUOTE]

Not at all, and I'm living proof of this :p
havent been able to get into that album yet and ive tried several times

i havent even heard ecailles de lune yet, though

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17940649]They are both French and it's all "majestic post-blackmetally". I'm sure if you like Alcest you will like that BAN album.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but no. There is absolutely no point of comparison for their music. At this point even calling Alcest black metal is a stretch and I'd hardly call that Blut Aus Nord album "post black metally". It's relatively straightforward, especially given their back catalogue.

[QUOTE=lim;17940660]shut up large bundle of sticks[/QUOTE]

Eat my sh1t.

I know its not goddamn shoegaze/black metal but it definitely has that "post-black metal" sound which is described as "shoegazey" by some.

lol wtf is post black metal

bootgaze

Basically atmospheric black metal. Bands that have post-rock/shoegaze influence.

like krallice and a bunch of the "faggy" USBM bands eh?

Basically. Fen, Drudkh, Altar of Plagues are some non USBM ones I listen to also. I don't consider it "faggy" lol.

tbh i eat that **** up. so yeah gimme recs for bands like that and some DSBM too while we're on this topicccc

Leave the hall

[QUOTE=Bleekill;17940730]Basically atmospheric black metal. Bands that have post-rock/shoegaze influence.[/QUOTE]

The two are unrelated. Atmospheric black metal is not post-black metal. Secondly, the new Blut Aus Nord doesn't have a shoegaze influence. Do you even listen to what you're posting about?

most of his recs are p good man so id be willing to guess that he does

maybe his view of a word that describes a type of music is different than what is the established norm?

[QUOTE]maybe his view of a word that describes a type of music is different than what is the established norm?[/QUOTE]
aka: wrong?

post black metal is **** like Arcturus. Stuff with black metal roots or influences that sit outside of the genre. Alcest would be post-black metal, I guess, but Blut Aus Nord, Drudkh, bands like that are just black metal.

It doesn't have to have a shoegaze influence to be shoegazey.

It's one of those tags you can arbitrarily put on anything these days

You know like "psychedelic" or "industrial"

Yeah, I do listen to it. To be considered post-black metal doesn't automatically mean it sounds like shoegaze. It can be avant-garde, folky, electronic influenced, whatever. So long as it is atmospheric and mixes other influences, it can be considered post-black metal.

edit: yeah they kinda said it before me.

okay Mortifera's shrieks are amazing ^____^

[quote]post black metal is **** like Arcturus[/quote]
lol

I never said something had to be "shoegazey" to be post black metal.

The only thing I'm arguing here is that the new Blut Aus Nord is absolutely nothing like the new Alcest and there's absolutely no point of comparison between the two. They're French and that's where it stops. I think "post black metal" is a ridiculous label (and I don't think Alcest are black metal in the first place) so I don't really care enough to argue the semantics here.

[QUOTE]post black metal is **** like Arcturus [/QUOTE]
At least it used to be. That's the thing with made up subgenres, they tend to change over the years because, well, they're made up. Bad example but you get what I'm saying. "Post black metal" is **** that isn't really black metal.

Most post-genres are an unnecessary distinction from the original genre.

It's a necessary distinction because most bands who fit the bill aren't actually black metal, it's just completely random and ambiguous as far as classification goes outside of the initial distinction.

[QUOTE=TimJim;17940200]can i get some recs for BM like Alcest?[/QUOTE]

Heretoir, Lantlos, Etheral Beauty, Thränenkind.

and yeah, Blut Aus Nord don't sound like Alcest at all. But still, if you don't have that album check them out.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17940867]It's a necessary distinction because most bands who fit the bill aren't actually black metal, it's just completely random and ambiguous as far as classification goes outside of the initial distinction.[/QUOTE]

I could reason with black metal getting some kind of "post" offshoot

because i don't think there's any subgenre of metal that can stray anywhere near as far from whats typically considered metal than black metal.

Holy ****, who cares.

idk you did enough to bump it and swear about it

i mean sorry we can go back to you asking if anyone has heard generic black metal band every couple of hours

i love how people whine that the black metal thread gets redundant, but then as soon as there's a 'worthwhile' argument (or just something different), they whine some more

welcome to the black metal thread

[QUOTE=Stormrider;17942117]i love how people whine that the black metal thread gets redundant, but then as soon as there's a 'worthwhile' argument (or just something different), they whine some more[/QUOTE]

that's just Justin.

im pretty sure you say "who cares" more than justin lol

I always try to contribute tbh

You've changed, Jammie bro.