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Bartender 07-19-2005 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]You'd have to read "The Bourne Identity" to really understand. Essentially, it is the method by which Bourne reconstructs who he once was: Delta was his code-name in the Medusa legion in Vietnam (a black ops death squad) and Cain is his alias, an assassin so powerful that he threatens Carlos the Jackal, Europe's most lethal terrorist. In the book, Bourne's CIA job was to pose as the assassin Cain and threaten Carlos' ego, so that Carlos would be drawn out to kill Cain, and so the CIA would trap Carlos and bring him to justice. The method of remembrance drilled into Bourne's head was "Delta is for Charlie and Charlie is for Cain," in reference to the naming system used in Vietnam, and then for remembering his mission it was "Charlie is for Carlos (since 'Charlie' was slang for Vietcong Communist soldiers, and Carlos was rumored to be a Russian-trained assassin) and Carlos is for Cain."

You'd really have to read it, though. The plot is much more labyrinthine and VERY different from the movie.[/QUOTE]

The books suddenly sound a lot more interesting than I thought they'd be from the films.

Cain 07-19-2005 08:27 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]The books suddenly sound a lot more interesting than I thought they'd be from the films.[/QUOTE]

They're essentially Cold War spy stories in the vein of "Six Days of the Condor." They are extremely complex and labyrinthine in plot structure, however. The plot is much different in the novel: Bourne's task was to draw out Carlos the Jackal by posing as an assassin named Cain, but the mission failed: one of Carlos' compatriots shot him in the skull and he got amnesia. The book is Bourne trying to find out who he is while escaping not just the CIA henchmen (who think that Bourne has turned--it's shaky in the movie WHY exactly they try to kill Bourne for failing his mission) but also from Carlos' vast network of informers and assassins.

The whole series is like that. The filmmakers came up with the plot to the Bourne Supremacy movie out of thin air, it seems, because in the book, Bourne resumes his original identity (David Webb) and teaches school, until the CIA kidnaps Marie to get Bourne to go to Kowloon in Hong Kong, where Carlos has assassinated high-ranking Chinese "taipans" and blamed it on Jason Bourne (who was widely known throughout the Far East during Vietnam, when Bourne was cultivating Cain's reputation by taking credit for kills he did not commit). The CIA traps Bourne into going on a mission for them, until it becomes apparent that Carlos has orchestrated the whole thing to get Bourne once and for all. COMPLETELY different plot from the movie.

I'd check out the books. They're difficult to read, somewhat, but very intriguing and savvy to intelligence operations and organizations.

Thor 07-19-2005 08:35 PM

I just heard my first Cryptopsy song and was blown away. Anyone else ever have this happen to them?

Dr. Jake Destructo 07-19-2005 08:46 PM

Yeah, two times today. First by Meshuggah's Corridor of Chameleons, and second by Arcturus' album The Sham Mirror.

:amaze:<--That's how I looked.

Chris- Okay, your tone didn't sound too bad. It was hard to tell how thick it was compared to mine, due to the difference in what we're comparing, but it really didn't sound too bad. If anything, I would kick back on the gain a bit, due to the low quality. It happens to the best of us. :p If you want a better sound, try placing the mic in different places. How close do you usually have it to your amp? Oh, and also, keep in mind that I was playing drop D, so that could be why it sounded so thick.

magicbus 07-19-2005 09:27 PM

I'm a little pissed off because my team lost all three Ultimate Frisbee games. I was really tired today, but I was still trying harder then most of my teammates. And the other guys were jackasses about winning, otherwise I wouldn't care as much. Now I'm chilling out to the Beatles, so it's alright.

Dragunov, sunburns blow. The last one I had hurt whenever moved my arms. It was right on my shoulder and chest.

Lunch, good luck with the test.

RCA 07-19-2005 09:32 PM

Sear Bliss own, and my sunburn still feels christcrushingly painful.

Permanent Solution 07-19-2005 09:33 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Hello ladies.

I got a job at Safeway as a bag bitch! Ohhh yeah. I'm so excited. I'll be making $7.50/hour.[/QUOTE]
Some people hate bagging though I like it well enough. Hope you don't end up hating it :)

Dr. Jake Destructo 07-19-2005 10:22 PM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]Hello ladies.

I got a job at Safeway as a bag bitch! Ohhh yeah. I'm so excited. I'll be making $7.50/hour.[/QUOTE]

/gets $7.75


Yessss

Lunch 07-19-2005 10:23 PM

Still doesn't have a job, though will have one soon (hopefully). Either that or I'll be grounded for a long a time.

Riva 07-19-2005 11:31 PM

The Bourne Movies sucked. The Bourne Trilogy book which I own is fantastic. :D

Mike, you have to keep drinking water and eating chocolate, foolio.

I bought Mike Patton and The X-cutioners - General Patton vs The X-cutioners and Miles Davis - The Beginning Of The Cool. Both very cool.

PinkFreud 07-19-2005 11:33 PM

you mean birth of the cool? i own both too. ive been listening to the patton one pretty regularly.

Congratulations 07-19-2005 11:34 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]/gets $7.75


Yessss[/QUOTE]
/Gets $8.00 an hour

/Gets $10.00 at other job

/Still manages to owe people money and can't pay for gas for his car.

Riva 07-19-2005 11:35 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]you mean birth of the cool? i own both too. ive been listening to the patton one pretty regularly.[/QUOTE]

Duh, yeah. Sorry.

They're great, aren't they! I listened to them at my girlfriend's house, in the car home, and now on the computer.

I think 6 is the favourite track so far.

Lunch 07-19-2005 11:38 PM

Trust me, I'm always drinking water.

PinkFreud 07-19-2005 11:45 PM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Duh, yeah. Sorry.

They're great, aren't they! I listened to them at my girlfriend's house, in the car home, and now on the computer.

I think 6 is the favourite track so far.[/QUOTE]
they are both great. i recently picked up the best of the faces.

ATM 07-19-2005 11:46 PM

Jason, what did you think of the jazz I uploaded?

Riva 07-20-2005 12:03 AM

I really enjoyed it. It is more than Jazz, though, right? I mean, it has elements besides the usual jazz. I liked Ballad For The Unborn greatly.

Mekkalayakay 07-20-2005 12:05 AM

I got out La Masquerade Infinale after a long time of looking at it on my massive cd rack.


I really should have bought Sham Mirrors. :'(

ATM 07-20-2005 12:16 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]I really enjoyed it. It is more than Jazz, though, right? I mean, it has elements besides the usual jazz. I liked Ballad For The Unborn greatly.[/QUOTE]

Yea, man. That is probably my favorite track on there.

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-20-2005 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=Mekkalayakay]I got out La Masquerade Infinale after a long time of looking at it on my massive cd rack.


I really should have bought Sham Mirrors. :'([/QUOTE]


I knew you should have got it. :p

Oh well, next time I guess?

NP - Vandals - The Unseen Tears Of The Albacore

ATM 07-20-2005 12:57 AM

Oh yea, I forgot about that Emo guy. Did we ever find out who that was?

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-20-2005 03:47 AM

Internet outage = teh suckage.

First time it has happened in awhile, so that is always some what good, I guess...

It used to happen every few days for like a day at a time, so can't really complain.

NP - Billy Idol - Rebel Yell

Drugstep 07-20-2005 03:54 AM

I wish I could have an internet outage. I'm posting on MX non-stop from 12:00 AM - 5:00 PM and not getting anything else accomplished. It's fu[B][I][/I][/B]cking me up.

Today/yesterday was relatively uneventful, but more eventful than most days. I posted on MX till noon, then went to a friend's house and chilled till 7:15 PM, then came back to my house and slept till 2:30 AM. I don't like that friend's mom.

Now Downloading - Nightwish - Wish I Had An Angel

Thor 07-20-2005 07:26 AM

[QUOTE=madeyadams]LOL. I found this and I have to bring it back. Oh man. Funny stuff.

[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325128[/url][/QUOTE]
Ha, thanks for the good times yet again. :thumb: :lol:

Bartender 07-20-2005 07:31 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]
I bought Mike Patton and The X-cutioners - General Patton vs The X-cutioners and Miles Davis - The Beginning Of The Cool. Both very cool.[/QUOTE]

Both great records. Isn't the packaging for [i]General Patton..[/i] awesome?

Thor 07-20-2005 07:35 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Both great records. Isn't the packaging for [i]General Patton..[/i] awesome?[/QUOTE]
Hey Bartender, thanks for getting me into Cryptopsy last night. :thumb:

Riva 07-20-2005 07:35 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Both great records. Isn't the packaging for [i]General Patton..[/i] awesome?[/QUOTE]

Hehe, that's why I chose it over Fantomas - Delerium Cordia.

Actually, I had a Tomohawk album, the Fantomas album and the X-ecutioners one, and I was fully intent on buying all three, along with Equilibrium XI and the Miles Davis one. My girlfriend, however, slowly took the 4 full-priced ones (the Miles Davis was on special) and told me I could pick just one. :(

Jom 07-20-2005 07:39 AM

Yeah, because it's so hard to look in your profile for threads you've started, isn't it, Madey.

EDIT: wait, your girlfriend buys records for you? Hmm. :[font=]ponders[/font]:

Thor 07-20-2005 07:43 AM

[QUOTE=HeavyRiva]Hehe, that's why I chose it over Fantomas - Delerium Cordia.

Actually, I had a Tomohawk album, the Fantomas album and the X-ecutioners one, and I was fully intent on buying all three, along with Equilibrium XI and the Miles Davis one. My girlfriend, however, slowly took the 4 full-priced ones (the Miles Davis was on special) and told me I could pick just one. :([/QUOTE]
Don't be a whipped man! Take some action! :thumb:

Riva 07-20-2005 07:44 AM

No, my girlfriend comes record shopping with me, and makes me stick to budgets. :)


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