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Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:00 PM

If sh[size=2]it[/size] falls apart, I've moving to Amsterdam.

BenJammin 10-21-2006 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13482598]guys do you understand what this means? do you get it? this means that if he wants to, bush can say that protesters standing outside the white house are military combatants and can have them discreetly MURDERED.

IT COULD BE YOU. this is serious guys. something needs to be done about this.[/QUOTE]

It's so scary.

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13482598]guys do you understand what this means? do you get it? this means that if he wants to, bush can say that protesters standing outside the white house are military combatants and can have them discreetly MURDERED.

IT COULD BE YOU. this is serious guys. something needs to be done about this.[/QUOTE]

Except that nothing can be done right now, and nothing will be done.

Bush won't be president after 2008, don't worry. If that changes that someone can be president more than two terms, then Clinton should take power again.

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:06 PM

Did I mention that I got drunk while watching Lost In Translation? :p

Now I need to go get high and all will be right... except for Bush being a Nazi... but, you know...

At least I'm in Canada, which is safe for now, but that is seriously messed up what they're pulling. If the Democrats don't take over in 2008, I'll be shocked.

irishslappop 10-21-2006 05:07 PM

too bad bush just declared clinton a military combatant and a sniper is sitting outside his house...

this is a set up guys. what happens if bush doesn;t give up the presidentcy? is it really that hard to imagine with all the other horrible **** he has done? no its not? and now that he can make ANYONE a military enemy of the uniter states, he cant be wrong. if he wanted, a tank could roll up to your home blow it down. this is how extreme this is.

irishslappop 10-21-2006 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13482643]Did I mention that I got drunk while watching Lost In Translation? :p

Now I need to go get high and all will be right... except for Bush being a Nazi... but, you know...

At least I'm in Canada, which is safe for now, but that is seriously messed up what they're pulling. If the Democrats don't take over in 2008, I'll be shocked.[/QUOTE]

you have a small buffer, but if the **** hits the fan, canada will be first, just like france in WWII.

Polyamarous 10-21-2006 05:10 PM

Come to Europe, it's safe plus the alcohol and women are wayy better.

It does rain alot though.

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:10 PM

It's not just Bush, though, it's Cheney and the Republican Party, Bush is more a pawn than anything.

I understand how thoroughly retarded and messed up this is, but Bush will be out of the White House in 2008, and as I said, I'll be surprised if the Democrats aren't in control. Things have been wrong since the 2000 election, time is coming to restore order and what is right... at least to a certain extent.

irishslappop 10-21-2006 05:12 PM

but the people dont know spiff. NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS. omg man, im like........im getting really really nervous right now....


and another thing, what if i move, and america goes to war? what if i have to fight against them? WWII only happened 60 years ago, its very possible.


wow im freakin out.

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Polyamarous;13482666]Come to Europe, it's safe plus the alcohol and women are wayy better.

It does rain alot though.[/QUOTE]

It's cool, I like the rain. :thumb:

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop;13482673]but the people dont know spiff. NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS. omg man, im like........im getting really really nervous right now....[/QUOTE]

I bet Tom Morello knows. He'd gladly get arrested again for something like this. :p


But seriously, I'll keep my ears open about anything relating to this. I don't like where this could be going.

PaulSimonon 10-21-2006 05:14 PM

Also notice how many republicans voted against that bill compared to democrats...

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:16 PM

As I've said, I don't think another World War is coming quite yet. This is just messing with stuff within America, the next World War isn't coming for a while... I think until we're dead, or at least too old to fight or actually be THAT affected by it.

BenJammin 10-21-2006 05:16 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13482683]But seriously, I'll keep my ears open about anything relating to this. I don't like where this could be going.[/QUOTE]

No kidding, eh? It's the total undermining of civil liberties.

I hope Steve doesn't get any ideas.

Polyamarous 10-21-2006 05:16 PM

[quote=irishslappop;13482673]but the people dont know spiff. NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS. omg man, im like........im getting really really nervous right now....


and another thing, what if i move, and america goes to war? what if i have to fight against them? WWII only happened 60 years ago, its very possible.


wow im freakin out.[/quote]

There must be a legitimate (or close enough) reason for this act, whether it's US-Iraqi defectors or whatever. I doubt very much this thing will last.

What worries me is how much Tony Blair and George Bush kiss each other's ásses. And then what this means for us.

Polyamarous 10-21-2006 05:17 PM

World War is not likely. Civil war? I'd wager on it.

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:26 PM

Canada is run by Conservatives too right now, and our PM is a big Bush supporter.

PaulSimonon 10-21-2006 05:28 PM

So, um, Supreme Court anyone? Doesn't seem like this would stand for long as being "Constitutional". But then again the Patriot Act didn't either.

BenJammin 10-21-2006 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon;13482745]So, um, Supreme Court anyone? Doesn't seem like this would stand for long as being "Constitutional". But then again the Patriot Act didn't either.[/QUOTE]

It was mentioned in the video that the SC was inclined to go along with it and give the President those powers.

ebe9 10-21-2006 05:31 PM

So just watched Last Action Hero.


Old as the hills but still a great movie.

irishslappop 10-21-2006 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=Polyamarous;13482696]There must be a legitimate (or close enough) reason for this act.[/QUOTE]

john adams, alien and sedition act, basically an act that would stop his critics from writing bad things about him.

do you also think that there is a legitimate reason for the patriot act? if **** doesnt get better, or look like it is by....im saying 2010, im out. and while world war is unlikely, its happened twice before guys, and it was "unlikely" then too.

Thonk 10-21-2006 05:49 PM

This is crazy sh[SIZE=2]it.[/SIZE]

irishslappop 10-21-2006 05:51 PM

its really really bad. think about it guys, this is how hitler came into power to. dont tell me comparing the two is cliche, because this is almost exactly how he did it too.

ebe9 10-21-2006 05:56 PM

[quote=irishslappop;13482930]its really really bad. think about it guys, this is how hitler came into power to. dont tell me comparing the two is cliche, because this is almost exactly how he did it too.[/quote]


Except Hitler was a painter and a decorated war hero.

I never like it when leader begin adapting the system to limit the potential for critisism.

Freedom then becomes available only to those who share the ruling parties views.

Spaceman Spiff 10-21-2006 05:59 PM

Bush is a puppet, Hitler wasn't.

Hitler was a great public speaker, Bush isn't.

Hitler was smart... :p

BenJammin 10-21-2006 06:00 PM

Hitler was also a vegetarian and a very strict animal rights activist.

irishslappop 10-21-2006 06:02 PM

everything the bush administration has done has only limited rights, not given more like they should have, the way government is supposed to be.
patriot act
trying to make gay marriage unconstitutional
militarty commissions act

the point of democracy is for the government to enrich the lives of its people, not to take away freedoms.

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irishslappop 10-21-2006 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff;13482971]Bush is a puppet, Hitler wasn't.

Hitler was a great public speaker, Bush isn't.

Hitler was smart... :p[/QUOTE]

all true. but the puppet masters are good talkers and are smart, thats what matters.

PietroCrespi 10-21-2006 06:05 PM

Holy crap, why isn't there some great Democratic protest?


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