It reallly was an amazing show, probably one of the top 3 shows I've seen. Against Me! played all the favorites and then Alk3 came on and played for 1.5-2 hours. It was nuts.

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once again, i dont know if this has been asked, because im not about to go through 112 pages of crap, but does anybody know who Evelyn is/was? I mean, in the RAR cd it has pictures of her and Jason, and she's obviously in the song "Pints of Guiness Make You Strong". and you can assume she's dead. but was she just a friend of Tom's? family? lover?

[QUOTE=babaca]once again, i dont know if this has been asked, because im not about to go through 112 pages of crap, but does anybody know who Evelyn is/was? I mean, in the RAR cd it has pictures of her and Jason, and she's obviously in the song "Pints of Guiness Make You Strong". and you can assume she's dead. but was she just a friend of Tom's? family? lover?[/QUOTE]

i was wondering the exact same thing last night.

I'm fairly sure she's his grandmother.

Yeah, I think so too.

Anyone else think ...Clarity isn't as bad as everyone thinks, OK, it's not RAR, but's just about on a par with ATEC. It's really grown on me as of late.

nah because ATEC is their best album. searching for a former clarity isnt a bad album, ive always liked it.

Joy is probably the only song on SFAFC that would fit on their other albums.

I thought that SFAFC was good, just not good enough to be ATEC or RAR.

[QUOTE=sketchyjoe]Joy is probably the only song on SFAFC that would fit on their other albums.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking that the other day too. It really fits in better than most songs on that album.



Which I continue to find nothing special. Definetly not on par with ATEC or RAR. Especially not RAR, but not ATEC either.

[quote=Johnny Quest.]Anyone else think ...Clarity isn't as bad as everyone thinks, OK, it's not RAR, but's just about on a par with ATEC. It's really grown on me as of late.[/quote]

I've always been in the minority of those who like SFAFC as much as any of their other stuff. Holy **** is my favorite AM! song.

Holy **** blows.

Tensions are running high aboard the S.S. MX.

I'm going to have to listen to SFAFC again very soon. The only songs on it I'm real familiar with are the ones they always play at shows/on tv.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]I've always been in the minority of those who like SFAFC as much as any of their other stuff. Holy **** is my favorite AM! song.[/QUOTE]Seriously Nick, Holy S[b]h[/b]it is a boring rock song. It has nowhere near the intensity of emotion, the lyrical poignancy and catchiness of anything on Crime, Acoustic, ATEC or RAR. If that is your favourite AM! song, you have no soul. You like content, not music.

[quote=sketchyjoe]Seriously Nick, Holy S[B]h[/B]it is a boring rock song. It has nowhere near the intensity of emotion, the lyrical poignancy and catchiness of anything on Crime, Acoustic, ATEC or RAR. If that is your favourite AM! song, you have no soul. You like content, not music.[/quote]
That's a nice opinion.

The lyrics aren't mind-blowingly amazing, sure, whatever. But I like them. They are catchy to me. I find myself singing them all the time. I like playing it on guitar, I like listening to it, and that's all that really matters.

And if you can only appreciate a song for it's "intensitiy in emotion" or "poignancy", the maybe you are the one who doesn't like music.

Holy **** is like a country song and Nick likes those dudes with the acoustics.

it is not as great as the other songs on SFAFC. the title song is pretty good and somethin you can just sit and play on your acoustic.

[QUOTE=Brain Toad]That's a nice opinion.

The lyrics aren't mind-blowingly amazing, sure, whatever. But I like them. They are catchy to me. I find myself singing them all the time. I like playing it on guitar, I like listening to it, and that's all that really matters.

And if you can only appreciate a song for it's "intensitiy in emotion" or "poignancy", the maybe you are the one who doesn't like music.[/QUOTE]
You're talking out of your arse. A song is okay if it's catchy. For a song to be special it has to have something more than that. Holy S[b]h[/b]it doesn't, to me at least, maybe it speaks to you, but you've just admitted you don't think the lyrics are that great. I listen to plenty of music for the rhythm or the hooks, but they're not as good as the music I listen to because it has a passion that I can identify with.
[QUOTE=Flagjacket]Holy **** is like a country song and Nick likes those dudes with the acoustics.[/QUOTE]
And I don't like country at all.

Opinions are a-holes. Holy **** rules, as does the entire Clarity album.

[QUOTE=manton]Opinions are a-holes. Holy **** rules, as does the entire Clarity album.[/QUOTE]Nick's get reamed?
Cheap shot but I couldn't resist.

Music means more to me than just something I like to play along to on my bass, or to just nod my head to. I'm sorry, but that's the way I am.

I just don't see how anyone could compare SFAFC to what came before it, unless you can relate to songs about being part of a scene or something where people are having fun and then becoming more and more aloof until the people who helped get you where you are don't like you anymore.

Oh, right. I just got it.

[QUOTE=sketchyjoe]Nick's get reamed?
Cheap shot but I couldn't resist.

Music means more to me than just something I like to play along to on my bass, or to just nod my head to. I'm sorry, but that's the way I am.

I just don't see how anyone could compare SFAFC to what came before it, unless you can relate to songs about being part of a scene or something where people are having fun and then becoming more and more aloof until the people who helped get you where you are don't like you anymore.

Oh, right. I just got it.[/QUOTE]

And of all the things we'd ask, out of all the ways we'd like for it to be,
they're just drunken conversations,
song lyrics sung at the top of our lungs so desperately like:
"I believe in a power that is of and by the people
I believe in an art that cannot be compromised.
I believe that all will endure, and all will overcome.
And I will sing it until I no longer remember the reason."

What was the reason?

Yeah, those lyrics can only be specific to what you're saying, and suck.

I like ATEC way better than SFAFC, but seriously, why are you trying to convince Nick that his favorite Against Me! song isn't that good or worthy of being passionate enough? Who cares? People listen to music for different reasons.

[quote=thepo].
I like ATEC way better than SFAFC, but seriously, why are you trying to convince Nick that his favorite Against Me! song isn't that good or worthy of being passionate enough? Who cares? People listen to music for different reasons.[/quote]

Ding ding ding winnah winnah!

Why doesn't anyone call [I]Crime[/I], [I]Crime as forgiven by[/I]? Or [I]Reinventing Axl Rose[/I], [I]Is Reinventing Axl Rose[/I]?


Those are little letters on the front of albums, gone to waste.

I've seen Crime as Crime as Forgiven By, I think that's how I have it labeled on my mp3s.

Never seen RAR with the I.

I think it's because of the awkward use of Against Me! in saying it. i.e. "Have your heard Against Me!'s [I]Crime as Forgiven By Against Me!?[/I] or Against Me!'s [I]Against Me! is Reinventing Axl Rose[/I]?

Probably. And yeah, I have Crime as Crime as Forgiven by in my ipod, but I don't have the Is on RAR.



Oh well. Their waste of ink I suppose.

Is as forgiven by

[QUOTE=thepo]And of all the things we'd ask, out of all the ways we'd like for it to be,
they're just drunken conversations,
song lyrics sung at the top of our lungs so desperately like:
"I believe in a power that is of and by the people
I believe in an art that cannot be compromised.
I believe that all will endure, and all will overcome.
And I will sing it until I no longer remember the reason."

What was the reason?

Yeah, those lyrics can only be specific to what you're saying, and suck.

I like ATEC way better than SFAFC, but seriously, why are you trying to convince Nick that his favorite Against Me! song isn't that good or worthy of being passionate enough? Who cares? People listen to music for different reasons.[/QUOTE]I was clearly talking about the entire album with that comment.

I'm just stating my opinion. I know I won't change anyone's mind.

I watched "We're Never Going Home" today and I'm wondering about the part where that Welsh guy is talking about Axl doing voodoo on little Against Me! puppets after hearing about RAR. Did that actually happen? Or is it speculation that can't be proven? If it did happen, it's damn funny.

Hahaha that part is funny I've wondered if that's true too.

[QUOTE=Twin Human Highway Flares]I watched "We're Never Going Home" today and I'm wondering about the part where that Welsh guy is talking about Axl doing voodoo on little Against Me! puppets after hearing about RAR. Did that actually happen? Or is it speculation that can't be proven? If it did happen, it's damn funny.[/QUOTE]

What's that DVD like? Is it worth buying?