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Badmoon 04-01-2005 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]It might, I don't know the person who told it to me said Abby, but you probally know more about it.[/QUOTE]

I think it's Albert.

Albert Hofmann was the Switz chemist who discovered LSD on accident; I'm guessing it's him.

Seafroggys 04-01-2005 07:22 PM

Yeah I would kill to get that copy of Helter Skelter. That explains the fade in and out toward the end.

I'm pretty sure John played bass, not sure who played lead and/or rhythm.

slowhand 04-01-2005 07:28 PM

Well, to tell you of how [i]Helter Skelter[/i] came to be... Paul once read an interview of the Who where they were saying that they had made the loudest album ever. So, Paul wanted then to have a very loud song, and so he wrote [i]Helter Skelter[/i].

And I suppose everyone knows that [i]Sexy Sadie[/i] was originally called "[i]Maharishi[/i]," because of Lennon's dissapointment on the so-called Beatles' spiritual teacher, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Well, originally, the song had this lines:

"You little teat
Who the f[b]u[/b]ck you think you are?
Who the f[b]u[/b]ck you think you are?
Oh, you c[b]u[/b]nt."


--Edit: And the exact time on the original [i]Helter Skelter[/i] was 27 minutes and 11 seconds, making it the longest Beatles track ever recorded. And it was a live jam, with long instrumental passage (so basically, each Beatle had a solo on that track). They played with the echo live, instead of adding it later. And on that version, the song went into a bizarre version of [i]Blue Moon[/i].

pigonthewing82 04-01-2005 07:32 PM

Another thing about Helter Skelter, Helter Skelter is a ride in an amustment park in England.

Also did John write the lyrics, I always thought he did?

slowhand 04-01-2005 07:37 PM

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Another thing about Helter Skelter, Helter Skelter is a ride in an amustment park in England.

Also did John write the lyrics, I always thought he did?[/QUOTE]

No, it was a McCartney song.

pigonthewing82 04-01-2005 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]No, it was a McCartney song.[/QUOTE]

Huh interesting. Well I guess you learn somthing new every day.

slowhand 04-01-2005 07:47 PM

Oh, and when John played bass, it was on September 9, when they did a remake of [i]Helter Skelter[/i]. So the one with the jam, I suppose that it meant that everyone was playing their role on that song.

On that Sept. 9 session, John also played sexophone (which he didn't have any experience with, so it was ... well, bad), Mal Evans played an equally amateurish trumpet, there were two lead guitars (guess who), built in destortion and feedback. And while Paul was singing his lead vocals, George was running around the studio with a flamming ashtray held above his head.

Oh, and did I tell you guys that the name 'Sexy Sadie' was suggested by George when John showed him the song before they left India. George told him to change it to that to avoid any legal affairs that might cause.

pigonthewing82 04-01-2005 07:52 PM

So is there like any remote way I could get this recording because it gets better and better every time you mention it.

slowhand 04-01-2005 07:55 PM

Well, the Sept. 9 version is the one everyone knows. That's the one they used on the album (minus the sax and the trumpets).

The other one, which was recorded on July 18, and had three different takes (one of 10 mins, the other of 12, and then the infamous 27'35'' version), and has never been released. So if you ever get the chance to go to Abbey Road and have a look on their recording library, check to see if they have it. Maybe one of the Beatles took it (if John did, that means that Yoko has it now... if George did, Olivia has it).

pigonthewing82 04-01-2005 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=slowhand]Well, the Sept. 9 version is the one everyone knows. That's the one they used on the album (minus the sax and the trumpets).

The other one, which was recorded on July 18, and had three different takes (one of 10 mins, the other of 12, and then the infamous 27'35'' version), and has never been released. So if you ever get the chance to go to Abbey Road and have a look on their recording library, check to see if they have it. Maybe one of the Beatles took it (if John did, that means that Yoko has it now... if George did, Olivia has it).[/QUOTE]

Oh man well hopfully its still at Abbey Road.

Man I thought I was cool when I extened the song to 10 min :upset:

Walrus Gumboot 04-01-2005 09:54 PM

They will probably come out with it before all of the baby boomers are dead... give it a few years

I never knew John played bass for any of the tracks, do you know any more?

ultraspamboy 04-01-2005 10:37 PM

I'd like to hear the 27 1/2 minute version just to see if it works.

Seafroggys 04-01-2005 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]I never knew John played bass for any of the tracks, do you know any more?[/QUOTE]

He plays bass ALOT on Let it Be. Just watch the movie, whenever Paul's on piano, there he is on bass.

Of course not many people have seen it, but luckily I have a copy (a bit bad quality) of it.

Walrus Gumboot 04-02-2005 09:52 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]He plays bass ALOT on Let it Be. Just watch the movie, whenever Paul's on piano, there he is on bass.

Of course not many people have seen it, but luckily I have a copy (a bit bad quality) of it.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I'll have to look for it now, I think its the only one I haven't seen

slowhand 04-02-2005 09:56 AM

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Wow, I'll have to look for it now, I think its the only one I haven't seen[/QUOTE]

On the song [i]Let it Be[/i] he plays bass, as well as in the [i]Long and Winding Road[/i].

George plays bass on the live version of [i]Hey Jude[/i] or at least when they were shooting the promo. The 'bass' is actually a guitar that comes tune an octave lower. Jack Bruce of Cream used one like that in the beginnings of Cream and when he was on the Graham Bond band, saying that because they didn't have a guitarist on the band before Cream, he could do some guitar stuff with it.

eghed 04-02-2005 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=slowhand]On the song [i]Let it Be[/i] he plays bass, as well as in the [i]Long and Winding Road[/i].

George plays bass on the live version of [i]Hey Jude[/i] or at least when they were shooting the promo. The 'bass' is actually a guitar that comes tune an octave lower. Jack Bruce of Cream used one like that in the beginnings of Cream and when he was on the Graham Bond band, saying that because they didn't have a guitarist on the band before Cream, he could do some guitar stuff with it.[/QUOTE]


Yeah George also plays "bass" on Two of us

bcf717 04-02-2005 03:06 PM

A lot of people only think of the Beatles in terms of 'one man, one instument.' It was always amazing that John , Paul and George were so interchangeable in switching from guitar, piano and bass. Granted, their individual talents were always more evident on their particular instrument, but their versatility in all instruments is what gave the band their recognizable style and longevity.

Murder Sheep 04-02-2005 03:39 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Sad... no love for The Beatles thread. I have a question for everyone: what is up with Revoluion 9? Like, what is it? I've hear rumors that it says "turn me on dead man" backwards, but its more likely than not one of those coincidence things, seeing as I don't see how anyone could purposely put a backwards message in a song. Anyone know of any meaning to the song, or is it just random crap?[/QUOTE]

Lots of bands purposely do it. The beatles have one at the end of I'm so tired.

Walrus Gumboot 04-02-2005 04:33 PM

I can't beleive that nobody really cares about the only bona fide backwards message that is in "Rain"

It doens't say anything about Paul being dead, it is just some of the lyrics reversed

magicbus 04-02-2005 05:03 PM

In my history class we were talking about a European arms treaty, and my teacher started the lecture with "20 years ago today, Gorbachev taught the band to play". Nobody got the reference but me :D

/copied from the community thread

GeorgeHarrison 04-02-2005 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]In my history class we were talking about a European arms treaty, and my teacher started the lecture with "20 years ago today, Gorbachev taught the band to play". Nobody got the reference but me :D

/copied from the community thread[/QUOTE]

sounds like a cool teacher

eghed 04-02-2005 05:58 PM

Hey does anyone know who plays the guitar solo in Taxman I have always it was Paul and that's what it has said in some other things I've seen but I was reading a book that about all their recording sessions and they usually say when the lineup of who plays what changed but they didn't say anything. But I also saw on this thing from a site that says George played the Lead guitar but Paul played the Guitar solo and bass. :confused:

pigonthewing82 04-02-2005 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]In my history class we were talking about a European arms treaty, and my teacher started the lecture with "20 years ago today, Gorbachev taught the band to play". Nobody got the reference but me :D

/copied from the community thread[/QUOTE]

:lol: I wish my teachers were like that, mine are more like the ones from the Wall.

DeusExMachina 04-02-2005 06:11 PM

Hey everyone, I'm back. Too lazy to read all the posts I missed, I'm sure it was all fascinating.

Walrus Gumboot 04-02-2005 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]In my history class we were talking about a European arms treaty, and my teacher started the lecture with "20 years ago today, Gorbachev taught the band to play". Nobody got the reference but me :D

/copied from the community thread[/QUOTE]


I hate it when I'm the only one who gets that sort of thing

Deus, I think the last page back was pretty interesting :wave:

GeorgeHarrison 04-03-2005 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=eghed]Hey does anyone know who plays the guitar solo in Taxman I have always it was Paul and that's what it has said in some other things I've seen but I was reading a book that about all their recording sessions and they usually say when the lineup of who plays what changed but they didn't say anything. But I also saw on this thing from a site that says George played the Lead guitar but Paul played the Guitar solo and bass. :confused:[/QUOTE]

Im not sure, but i think what you got there is right.

Sgt._Joker 04-03-2005 02:29 AM

^^ i'm not sure either, i know george wrote the riff tho because i read or heard somewhere that he based the riff on the "Batman" theme song

pigonthewing82 04-03-2005 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=Sgt._Joker]^^ i'm not sure either, i know george wrote the riff tho because i read or heard somewhere that he based the riff on the "Batman" theme song[/QUOTE]

:lol: thats really funny man.

pigonthewing82 04-03-2005 03:04 AM

You know I'm really starting to get into their song Get Back. I think that has some of the most catchy lyrics of all time.

bcf717 04-03-2005 11:04 AM

Hey Walrus... I care about 'Rain.' -- John is quoted as saying he was drunk )I'm sure translates to high) at home in the evening and trying to listen to the day's sessions on tape. Using the old reel to reels he accidentally put the tape on backwards and loved what he heard. That was the birth of their psychedelic sound.


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