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hollowpainting 09-06-2006 05:10 AM

Then I vote Sideshow Symphonies for my favorite of 05.

I'm hoping Alexi gets with it and doesn't go chugga chugga lug lug on the next album. lol

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 07:19 AM

[QUOTE=hollowpainting]Then I vote Sideshow Symphonies for my favorite of 05.

I'm hoping Alexi gets with it and doesn't go chugga chugga lug lug on the next album. lol[/QUOTE]

I think he will tbh.

Plus, we have another full year to wait yet.

hollowpainting 09-06-2006 07:25 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I think he will tbh.

Plus, we have another full year to wait yet.[/QUOTE]
We have a full year to mentally prepare for Alexi's self destruction of our favorite band. :mad:

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 07:31 AM

OMG DON'T SAY IT!!!

*cries like a lil' bitch*

I'm gonna steal Alexi's guitar and his hair and make my own band, the Toddlers of Bodom.

hollowpainting 09-06-2006 07:35 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]OMG DON'T SAY IT!!!

*cries like a lil' bitch*

I'm gonna steal Alexi's guitar and his hair and make my own band, the Toddlers of Bodom.[/QUOTE]
hHAHAHAH nice funny :)

It's logical though. Look at the EP with TL&S, then AYDY.

Hey, but he's no stranger to chugging though. ^)^

You have hair close to Alexi's. I have hair close to my scalp.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 07:37 AM

Yeah, they've been getting heavier throughout their entire carrer, this is just the next step.

MAYBEEEE, they'll keep the C, and drop the other 5 strings a tone and go for the Arch Enemy tuning of C standard, that'd suprise everyone and be awesome at the same time.

hollowpainting 09-06-2006 07:40 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Yeah, they've been getting heavier throughout their entire carrer, this is just the next step.

MAYBEEEE, they'll keep the C, and drop the other 5 strings a tone and go for the Arch Enemy tuning of C standard, that'd suprise everyone and be awesome at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Not if they used it badly.

They could do that, pull a Behemoth and write songs like,

"Conquer Beer" "Sculpting The Throne Ov Teh Reaper" and such.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 07:44 AM

I don't see how it could be used badly, it's the same *type* tuning, just a step lower so he'd still play the same type of riffs. Everyone can agree that you tend to play different style riffs if a guitar is in "drop" something, if it's standard, you end up with something less chuggy.

Compare Needled 24/7 & Sixpounder. And then Bodom Beach Terror and Angels Don't Kill. Same band, same album, 4 different songs, the 2 in drop C being the chuggiest. I think if they were to even go back to C# standard, that'd be good enough, drop tunings are too limited unless you're very creative. I actually think the main riff to Living Dead Beat is very creative and challenging.

hollowpainting 09-06-2006 07:50 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]I don't see how it could be used badly, it's the same *type* tuning, just a step lower so he'd still play the same type of riffs. Everyone can agree that you tend to play different style riffs if a guitar is in "drop" something, if it's standard, you end up with something less chuggy.
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True. I actually like my riffing in CGCFAD best, over DGCFAD. It really forces me to break apart stuff, instead of trem picking @ a billion bpm. I need to cut down on the pinch harmonics. I actually played an entire verse where every note was one for fun. LOL. It was interesting, that's for sure.

[quote]
Compare Needled 24/7 & Sixpounder. And then Bodom Beach Terror and Angels Don't Kill. Same band, same album, 4 different songs, the 2 in drop C being the chuggiest. I think if they were to even go back to C# standard, that'd be good enough, drop tunings are too limited unless you're very creative. I actually think the main riff to Living Dead Beat is very creative and challenging.[/QUOTE]
Yepp. Sixpounder is very chugga chugga luggish

Yeah, but he'd lose his melody in C#. I just think we've seen the last of good bodom. I doubt Janne's going to have anything more than a backing role in the next album.

hollowpainting 09-06-2006 07:53 AM

[QUOTE=Kalmah]Bastards of Bodom is a great song, it's not that bad of an album, just a little different...[/QUOTE]
Truth, but it's no FTR.

hollowpainting 09-06-2006 07:55 AM

^_^ FTR is

Night guys

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 08:19 AM

[QUOTE=hollowpainting]True. I actually like my riffing in CGCFAD best, over DGCFAD. It really forces me to break apart stuff, instead of trem picking @ a billion bpm. I need to cut down on the pinch harmonics. I actually played an entire verse where every note was one for fun. LOL. It was interesting, that's for sure.


Yepp. Sixpounder is very chugga chugga luggish

Yeah, but he'd lose his melody in C#. I just think we've seen the last of good bodom. I doubt Janne's going to have anything more than a backing role in the next album.[/QUOTE]

I can agree that melodic ideas sound weaker in lower tunings but Something Wild anyone? Lake Bodom is the shiit.

I actually wrote a Meshuggah type riff in 7/4 and recorded it in Bb, then recorded it up in D and it sounded soo much better and clearer but D down to C# should make too much difference. I mean you can't really tell when Bodom play Something Wild material in D (live 2005 etc).

repcak 09-06-2006 08:42 AM

can you upload the meshuggah riff?

maybe bodom won't play the chugga chugga style next time, but they will keep the song structure for sure. Alexi once told in an interview that he doesn't like the song structures of their older albums.




'sup?

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 08:53 AM

Ok here's the recording, but the guitars don't seem loud enough, or clear. I think I only did 2 tracks so that might be why but you get the idea if you follow the kick drum.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Yer-bitches[/url]

repcak 09-06-2006 09:34 AM

its nice... but can you explain (yeah, once again, as always :) ) the theory behind it? 7/4? what does this mean in musical term? i only know/understand 1/4 ,2/4,3/4, 4/4 etc. but all those 7/4, 9/8, etc i don't understand....

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]its nice... but can you explain (yeah, once again, as always :) ) the theory behind it? 7/4? what does this mean in musical term? i only know/understand 1/4 ,2/4,3/4, 4/4 etc. but all those 7/4, 9/8, etc i don't understand....[/QUOTE]

Tbh, you can't really udnerstand 4/4 and 3/4 if you can't understand 7/4.

The *only* difference is the first number in the fraction.

If you knew what the first digit meant, it'd be clear as to what the 7 means.

In 4, you count: 1..2..3..4..1..2..3..4.

In 7, you count: 1..2..3..4..5..6..7..1..2..3..4..5..6..7.

Ohh so simple. :)

repcak 09-06-2006 10:41 AM

ah, ok, easy... but there are more complex time signatures... i only know that there is a 9/11 (?) in Inferno... i think you count:

1-2, 1-2, 1-2-3,

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 11:45 AM

9/11 is impossible.

I've always believed there's no such thing as a "complex time signature".

It's how you phrase the notes IN the time signature that makes riffs sound weird. I could write a bar of 9/8 that sounded simple, and a bar of 9/8 that sounded stupidly complex.

As I said, if you actually understand time signatures, you'll see that they're nothing but indications of bar lengths and usage of certain note types.

A good example = Meshuggah write in 4/4 alot. Why does it sound "complex"? Answer: clever syncopation and rhythm techniques.

repcak 09-06-2006 12:29 PM

inferno is in 7/8 but only some parts. 14 notes in one bar.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 01:08 PM

Yeah I know. That's kinda weird because of the way it's phrased. He could have chosen anyway to arrange those notes but he obviosly picked a difficult one.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 01:33 PM

Cool pic someone made:

[url]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/lozzybob/Alexi_Laiho__in_a_lake__by_sqwarloc.png[/url]

Shadows Within 09-06-2006 02:08 PM

Yo Im not sure where to put this since there isin't A Stratovarius thread, but since im here I mine as well post it for Crtiquing or however you spell it.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=586854&songID=4408385[/url]

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=Shadows Within]Yo Im not sure where to put this since there isin't A Stratovarius thread, but since im here I mine as well post it for Crtiquing or however you spell it.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=586854&songID=4408385[/url][/QUOTE]

Hmm, timing seemed a bit shaky throughout and that trill bit wasn't quite the same. That's all I can think of really, I didn't hear any bad notes, just a timing issue.

Real good sound though.

Shadows Within 09-06-2006 03:09 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Hmm, timing seemed a bit shaky throughout and that trill bit wasn't quite the same. That's all I can think of really, I didn't hear any bad notes, just a timing issue.

Real good sound though.[/QUOTE]Yeah im not too good with teh trills yet but im gonna work on those next, and I didn't really have the song top play along with, although I should have done that...mabye ill just buy a new cable to plug into my amp so I can hear myself playing and put the music on.

and not I don't use metronomes I don't believe in them I used the for a whle but hated them.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 03:14 PM

I can understand the metronome thing, but as long as you have the discipline and self control to not go to fast too soon and stuff, it'll come along nicely.

It's only when you rush things that you start to experience problems(coughyoutubecough)

Shadows Within 09-06-2006 03:19 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]
It's only when you rush things that you start to experience problems(coughyoutubecough)[/QUOTE]
or just play them incredibly ****ty IE the two retards playing Bat Country or the "The Very Final Countdown" video.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 03:23 PM

I don't think I've seen them. BUt if they'd taken the time to learn the parts properly and practise them, making sure it was clean at all times, they'd save themselves from looking stupid.

Toaster 09-06-2006 03:26 PM

Most guitar videos on YouTube are terrible.. even if the players aren't that bad, I mean, it's really the height of conceit to put your playing up there. Why not find a band, film yourself live and put that up there? No one wants to hear your guitar playing alone, unless they feel like comparing it to their own. Bottom line.

repcak 09-06-2006 03:32 PM

maybe i will record "Inferno" when i master it and will make a short clip and upload it on youtube... but its only an idea i have; maybe i won't do it in the end.

MRDuCran 09-06-2006 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=repcak]maybe i will record "Inferno" when i master it and will make a short clip and upload it on youtube... but its only an idea i have; maybe i won't do it in the end.[/QUOTE]

Heh, if you're gonna put it on youtube, make sure its PERFECT otherwise you'll get all those bitchy people posting bull**** comments. It makes me sick reading all that crap. :angry:


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