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Moses 07-18-2005 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]tell me how?[/QUOTE]
Well, Randy of Lamb of God has a more deep screamy style of vocals, and they rely on cool riffs rather than a catchy hook. They are a little bit heavier too, and don't have the generic metalcore breakdowns as much. Plus they give a completely different vibe when listening to them.

Killswitch Engage's Howard has a strong chest voice that he uses alot more when singing. Also he uses a yelling type of technique but some times does the high pitched scream too. The band also does alot of generic metalcore breakdowns and they rely heavily on a catchy chorus. Lamb of God is a little more brutal but has alot less melody.

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Pretty impressive. You're now that much cooler to me that you own Sabbath, The Clash, GnR, Bowie, Slayer and Opeth. :p[/QUOTE]

I don't actually listen to Slayer, The Clash, or GnR anymore, but yeah, I had periods of time where I did like 'em.

I got Blackwater Park because almost everyone I knew was like, "Opeth is f'n awesome", but I'm still trying to get into them.

But yeah, I like Sabbath, and Bowie is very much the man.

[QUOTE=Bartender]I've not heard that, and I've got a couple of Chris Rock routines on my computer. What was that from?[/QUOTE]

It's either Never Scared or Bigger And Blacker.

NJMetalMeister 07-18-2005 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Firstly, I don't think Children of Bodom are racist. Secondly, I would listen to a song by the band, but I would not support it by downloading or buying an album if they are racists.
[/QUOTE]

When did i say CoB were racist? :confused:

I was just talking about Arghoslent. Secondly downloading a band is hardly support, its ripping them off :p

I can totally understand the idea of not wanting to buy it though

Taste_My_Scythe 07-18-2005 12:32 PM

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]You need some Quo Vadis, they are a must if you like melodic death.

songs to check out :

Break The cycle
Silence Calls The Storm
Dead Mans Diary
On the Shores of Ithaka
I Believe

Borknagar = black/progressive/folk all mixed into one[/QUOTE]

Yeah! Someone recommended Quo Vadis to me in the death head thread. I got I Believe, On the Shores of Ithaka and another one (I can't remember the name). Good stuff.

Arucard - Senses Fail. Pretty cool. What, hardcore or something?

Moses 07-18-2005 12:33 PM

[QUOTE=Arucard]Bobo, what kind of music is Borknagar exactly? I was under the impression it was Melodic Black.

And for Quo-Vadis add Elements Of The Absolution Pt.3 to that list.[/QUOTE]
Black Metal has always been melodic to me..... :confused:

Taste_My_Scythe 07-18-2005 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=NJMetalMeister]When did i say CoB were racist? :confused:

I was just talking about Arghoslent. Secondly downloading a band is hardly support, its ripping them off :p

I can totally understand the idea of not wanting to buy it though[/QUOTE]

:amaze: You know, I can really be annoying sometimes. Disregard what I said. I read stuff way too fast for my own good. My apologies.

Bartender 07-18-2005 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]
It's either Never Scared or Bigger And Blacker.[/QUOTE]

Must be Never Scared then, I think. Thanks.

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:35 PM

Bartender: It could also be Bring The Pain. I'm straining to remember my Chris Rock standup routines.

Arucard 07-18-2005 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Yeah! Someone recommended Quo Vadis to me in the death head thread. I got I Believe, On the Shores of Ithaka and another one (I can't remember the name). Good stuff.

Arucard - Senses Fail. Pretty cool. What, hardcore or something?[/QUOTE]

Im not entirely sure, but they are definatly not Hardcore. Hardcore is a sub-genre of punk, and Senses Fail have very little to do with punk. For me, they are more Pop-Punky.

Moses 07-18-2005 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Firstly, I don't think Children of Bodom are racist. Secondly, I would listen to a song by the band, but I would not support it by downloading or buying an album if they are racists. [/QUOTE]
I'd download it but ignore the lyrics.

Also if you want somthing really cool, try Necrophagist.

Bartender 07-18-2005 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Bartender: It could also be Bring The Pain. I'm straining to remember my Chris Rock standup routines.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure it's not Bring the Pain or Bigger and Blacker, since they're the two I have, and Bring the Pain was actually my first introduction to him. I'm pretty sure it's not on the Born Suspect CD either, but I don't listen to that as much anyway, so I could be wrong.

BoboTheRagingHobo 07-18-2005 12:40 PM

[QUOTE=Taste_My_Scythe]Yeah! Someone recommended Quo Vadis to me in the death head thread. I got I Believe, On the Shores of Ithaka and another one (I can't remember the name). Good stuff.
[/QUOTE]


Then try some Equilibrium, a power metal band similar to CoB from Germany, just viking metal instead.

Try these songs :

Sturm
Met
Unter Der Eiche
Wingthors Hammer

/runs

Gotta leave for work, later.

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]I'm pretty sure it's not Bring the Pain or Bigger and Blacker, since they're the two I have, and Bring the Pain was actually my first introduction to him. I'm pretty sure it's not on the Born Suspect CD either, but I don't listen to that as much anyway, so I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]

Well, I saw it on a special so I don't think it's on a CD. It's on a real recent one because he bashes Lil' Jon in it.

Bartender 07-18-2005 12:44 PM

Yeah, I'm not sure if Bring the Pain of Bigger and Blacker are on CD either. Anyway, thanks for letting me know it exists, at least. I'll try and have a look around for it.

Taste_My_Scythe 07-18-2005 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=BoboTheRagingHobo]Then try some Equilibrium, a power metal band similar to CoB from Germany, just viking metal instead.

Try these songs :

Sturm
Met
Unter Der Eiche
Wingthors Hammer

/runs

Gotta leave for work, later.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I definately will.

[QUOTE=Moses]I'd download it but ignore the lyrics.

Also if you want somthing really cool, try Necrophagist.[/QUOTE]

I'll give them a try. I think someone reccomended them too, but I didn't get a chance to try them out.

[QUOTE=Arucard]Im not entirely sure, but they are definatly not Hardcore. Hardcore is a sub-genre of punk, and Senses Fail have very little to do with punk. For me, they are more Pop-Punky.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that makes sense. I couldn't put a finger on what other band they sounded like.


Ciao guys, going to go play some guitar. :wave:

Moses 07-18-2005 12:45 PM

Ray: I just glanced at your cd collection and was surprised to see Blackwater Park there......

Among all the classic rock and rap Opeth kind of seems wierd but still makes sense.

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Yeah, I'm not sure if Bring the Pain of Bigger and Blacker are on CD either. Anyway, thanks for letting me know it exists, at least. I'll try and have a look around for it.[/QUOTE]

It's definitely worth looking for, I have to say.

[QUOTE=Moses]Ray: I just glanced at your cd collection and was surprised to see Blackwater Park there......

Among all the classic rock and rap Opeth kind of seems wierd but still makes sense.[/QUOTE]

How does it make sense?

/not mean, but geniunely puzzled

Moses 07-18-2005 12:48 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]It's definitely worth looking for, I have to say.



How does it make sense?

/not mean, but geniunely puzzled[/QUOTE]
The acoustic parts could be enjoyable to anyone, especially a classic rock fan.

magicbus 07-18-2005 12:49 PM

Here's my cd collection, for no apparent reason.

[url]http://rateyourmusic.com/user_albums/album_list_id_is_69121_and_list_type_is_owned[/url]

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=Moses]The acoustic parts could be enjoyable to anyone, especially a classic rock fan.[/QUOTE]

Ah, yeah.

I'm trying to get into the harder/heavier parts, too.

EDIT: Aaron, nice collection

ATM 07-18-2005 12:52 PM

Soon you will tolerate the growl, and then evenutally crave it.

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:53 PM

I prefer the growling to his normal singing voice, actually :lol:

jpj 07-18-2005 12:55 PM

[url]http://rateyourmusic.com/user_albums/album_list_id_is_82421_and_list_type_is_owned[/url]

album list because it's trendy

Lord Abortion 07-18-2005 12:56 PM

on racism in metal-
In BM circles, you see alot of bands that have racist beliefs, especially in the subgenre NSBM, I haven't really heard any of their music, and would perhaps feel a little uneasy doing it, mind you I listen to supposedly satanist bands and don't feel uneasy, and I listen to Varg who IS racist, I dunno, I just leave people's beliefs out of it because, although I really dislike racism, a prevalent opinion in a country school where there are about 3 black people in the school, I love Varg, for example's music...

that was a bit confused, sorry

magicbus 07-18-2005 12:56 PM

Thanks Ray.

I find myself liking Orchid and Morningrise a lot more than the other Opeth albums. Blackwater Park seems to be more aggressive in comparison to the other two. Orchid is hands down my favorite, I love the melodic, flowing riffs it has, and while the double bass rules, I also really like the slow drumming on some songs, like at the beginning of Forest Of October. And the growls are awesome, I definently can see myself craving them.

/listening to Orchid now. Unbelievable.

Moses 07-18-2005 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I prefer the growling to his normal singing voice, actually :lol:[/QUOTE]
Same here.

jpj 07-18-2005 12:59 PM

I've heard Blackwater Park and ****ation, but I didn't really like either.

Illmatic 07-18-2005 12:59 PM

[QUOTE=jpj][url]http://rateyourmusic.com/user_albums/album_list_id_is_82421_and_list_type_is_owned[/url]

album list because it's trendy[/QUOTE]

Hurray, I started a trend.

Only two Bowie albums? Die.

Or get more Bowie albums, it's up to you.

[QUOTE=Moses]Same here.[/QUOTE]

:cool:

[QUOTE=Aaron]I find myself liking Orchid and Morningrise a lot more than the other Opeth albums. Blackwater Park seems to be more aggressive in comparison to the other two. Orchid is hands down my favorite, I love the melodic, flowing riffs it has, and while the double bass rules, I also really like the slow drumming on some songs, like at the beginning of Forest Of October. And the growls are awesome, I definently can see myself craving them.[/QUOTE]

I'll try to get those then. The only songs off either of those that I have heard is "To Bid You Farewell", which I kinda liked.

magicbus 07-18-2005 01:05 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]I'll try to get those then. The only songs off either of those that I have heard is "To Bid You Farewell", which I kinda liked.[/QUOTE]

"To Bid You Farewell" is what made me check out Morningrise. My friend did a cover of it for a talent show, and I love the bassline in the first section.

Lord Abortion 07-18-2005 01:17 PM

Opeth seem to be the non DM liker's DM band if you know what I mean...


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