im going seeing Dream Theater in October and the nights called "An evening with dream theater" does that mean there will be no support band or anything else?

[QUOTE=Aberrationbass]im going seeing Dream Theater in October and the nights called "An evening with dream theater" does that mean there will be no support band or anything else?[/QUOTE]

it means theres 2, one and a half hour sets with an intermission. And no supports. Usually the shows over 3 hours

[QUOTE=Trivium]Im a little behind on the dream theater thing.

But I jsut got six degrees of inner turbulance. Listened to both cds nonstop.

And honestly, its the best music ive ever heard in my life.[/QUOTE]
my favourite DT album :thumb:

blind faith, glass prison, dissappear and the SDOIT song are my favourite DT songs.

I want to get a dream theater DVD. I heard Live at Budokon was the best, but what are the other ones?

the only other dvd i've seen is live scenes from new york. quality wise, budokan is a lot better. the sound quality is better, and it doesn't look like it was recorded on a home video camera. the setlist isn't the best, mostly the 2nd disc of 6DOIT and ToT, while LSFNY has all of SFAM, aswell as A Mind Beside Itself, ACOS, and a couple of other tracks. budokan has much better extra features aswell, like petrucci's guitar world and mike getting people from the crowd to play drums onstage with him.

considering LSFNY seems more just like a live version of the album with a couple of extra songs thrown in, while budokan is more a proper live dvd, i'd go for budokan, as tempting as the LSFNY version of ACOS may be.

or just dump down the money like me, and get both of them :) I am with him though, Live at Budokan is a higher quality DVD, and has better special features. Plus you get to watch Portnoy playing on the Seimese Monster instead of the old Purple Monster :) .

LSFNY has definatly got the best set in my opinion, SFAM, ACOS and Metropolis all in one show, plus some more off Awake thrown in. It's really annoying that they didn't even include the whole set on LSFNY DVD, so you don't even get Metropolis. The quality of Budokan DVD is a lot better, and is more of a live show with members interacting with the crowd a lot more.

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]LSFNY has definatly got the best set in my opinion, SFAM, ACOS and Metropolis all in one show, plus some more off Awake thrown in. It's really annoying that they didn't even include the whole set on LSFNY DVD, so you don't even get Metropolis. The quality of Budokan DVD is a lot better, and is more of a live show with members interacting with the crowd a lot more.[/QUOTE]
at least they included learning to live and erotomania-voices-silent man. i love those songs :)

Right now I am thinking about getting Budokon because I am saving up for Socom III and I dont have a job at the moment. I'll get the LSFNY DVD for christmas or something.

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]LSFNY has definatly got the best set in my opinion, SFAM, ACOS and Metropolis all in one show, plus some more off Awake thrown in. It's really annoying that they didn't even include the whole set on LSFNY DVD, so you don't even get Metropolis. The quality of Budokan DVD is a lot better, and is more of a live show with members interacting with the crowd a lot more.[/QUOTE]
Yeah it is annoying that they didn't do that. I reckon if they took the set from LSFNY and played it at Budokan that would rock. :)

[QUOTE=Triangle]Yeah it is annoying that they didn't do that. I reckon if they took the set from LSFNY and played it at Budokan that would rock. :)[/QUOTE]
Yes it would, the LSFNY CD set is incredible, almost perfect setlist. And I hate those crappy camera effects and the cheesy acting on the DVD.

Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.[/QUOTE]

awsum post d00d, no lye

[QUOTE=tehnick]awsum post d00d, no lye[/QUOTE]

Hmm, I thank the compliment but I really think you need to learn how to type. You don't look cool, it just makes you look dumb.

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]Hmm, I thank the compliment but I really think you need to learn how to type. You don't look cool, it just makes you look dumb.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that his post was intended as sarcasm. I haven't read the whole thread, but there's probably a good deal of people who've come in and said the same thing you did.

[QUOTE=halfdeadhippo]I'm pretty sure that his post was intended as sarcasm. I haven't read the whole thread, but there's probably a good deal of people who've come in and said the same thing you did.[/QUOTE]

And there are also a number of people who come in here and say that Dream Theater are extremely talented and one of their favourite bands but no sarcasm is thrown at them. Funny that.

I'm merely expressing my opinion, dam n it.

hey. What's up with LaBrie copying a lot of lyrics on Octavarium(song)? What I picked up: "Be careful with that axe, Eugene" ; " Lucy in the sky with diamond".

Not only lyrics, but when he says: ..." Find, I've gone FULL CIRCLE" , he says it excactly as Maynard James Keenan said it on Prison sex. What's up with the mofo? and the intro couldn't be more of a rip from Shine On you Crazy Diamond. Explain, Die hard DT fans!

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]hey. What's up with LaBrie copying a lot of lyrics on Octavarium(song)? What I picked up: "Be careful with that axe, Eugene" ; " Lucy in the sky with diamond".

Not only lyrics, but when he says: ..." Find, I've gone FULL CIRCLE" , he says it excactly as Maynard James Keenan said it on Prison sex. What's up with the mofo? and the intro couldn't be more of a rip from Shine On you Crazy Diamond. Explain, Die hard DT fans![/QUOTE]

the part with the singing of bits from other songs is thought up by Portnoy, and I love that part the most of the song :)

[QUOTE=the2stranger]the part with the singing of bits from other songs is thought up by Portnoy, and I love that part the most of the song :)[/QUOTE]

When I first saw your avatar I thought it was a crazy anorexic emu.

[QUOTE=Prince of Darkness]hey. What's up with LaBrie copying a lot of lyrics on Octavarium(song)? What I picked up: "Be careful with that axe, Eugene" ; " Lucy in the sky with diamond".[/QUOTE]

It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.

[QUOTE=The Depressed]It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.[/QUOTE]

very interessting stuff, thanks for this :thumb:

[QUOTE=Mizuzack]Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.[/QUOTE]

I don't like the singer that much, either, but it grows on you after a while. I don't think any other singer would fit with their music...

I love James' vocals
I always did, from the first time I heard them

[QUOTE=The Depressed]It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.[/QUOTE]

omg that's good. thanks, but on Never Enough, they clearly ripp off Muse's Hysteria. even the vocal part has Ballamy written all over it. Portnoy even admitted that Absolution was his favorite album at the time. silly

[QUOTE=The Depressed]
[url]http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php[/url]

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link. It tells alot about the album. I dont have time to read the whole thing now, so i'll just bookmark it.

wow, that's going to take me a long time to read.

on a different note, has anyone heard about a play/musical about the SFAM album. My brother told me a few weeks ago and I didn't know if he was lying or not.

[QUOTE=scenesfromatheater]wow, that's going to take me a long time to read.

on a different note, has anyone heard about a play/musical about the SFAM album. My brother told me a few weeks ago and I didn't know if he was lying or not.[/QUOTE]


it's true, there will be two shows, but only in the states :upset:

[QUOTE=the2stranger]it's true, there will be two shows, but only in the states :upset:[/QUOTE]


It's gonna blow. Altough I am quite eager to see if they can pull it off.

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]

There are plenty more genres still around other than death metal. Don't listen to death metal if you don't like it.

And with other bands sounding like Dream Theater...well, Dream Theater are prog, so try to get into other prog bands.

Dream Theater - Metropolis pt. 1 and Rush - YYZ got me into prog.

quite a lot of underground death metal is prog/technical anyway. i like death metal because you get a lot of good drummers, but some of the vocals like early Cannibal Corpse are funny.

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]
You clearly know nothing about death metal.

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]

please note that death metal is a genre that has a lot of skilled and studied musicians.

just because you don't appreciate it, doesn''t mean it's bad, or that it will be the downlfall of metal.

a top of genres with most skill:

Classical
Jazz
Progressive metal
(technical) Death metal

you could argue to fit Blues in there too

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]

Although I'm no fan of Death Metal, you shouldn't dismiss a genre like that. Also, I'd recomend learning how to type...

[QUOTE=bodger]is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?[/QUOTE]
i disagree :)

that is, the death metal part. i still think DT are talented, but there are many more bands you havent heard of that are as talented as them.

Jazz is sometimes technical but thats if its learned
it kind of defeats the point though because its really all about improviseation what happens in Jazz sometimes is technical but it depends on what there feeling i think its a insult to Jazz to say it has the most skill when alot of it happens by accident.......
Classical is a hard one some of it i don't think merits much skill because its about following set rules and can be primitive because of the lack of instruments of the time
But on the contrary Classical composers such as Schubert broke the rules and strove for something unique as well as being very technical
i think prog is joint 1 with classical maybe
Classical has more technical note choice
but progs time sigs and ignorance of key sigs (and still sounding good) also deserve merit
guess we'll never know........

[QUOTE=the2stranger] a top of genres with most skill:

Classical
Jazz
Progressive metal
(technical) Death metal

you could argue to fit Blues in there too[/QUOTE]

Some blues definitely belongs in there. I wish I could play like SRV (I consider him blues, although some don't).

I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.[/QUOTE]

Once in a Livetime is good, but it costs about the same as Live at Budokon. I like Budokon better though.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.[/QUOTE]
I've got a copy of it, I can send it to you sometime if you like.