he'll stick to the dropped d. it hasn't failed him yet. i want to hear more synth and guitar at once as on reflections. actually if the whole cd had the general lateralus sound, i would not be disappointed. i have too many things i would like to hear to list so i'm not gonna bother.

almost forgot, right before my previous post tool had the lead by about ten votes. cross your fingers.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hey, this may have been discussed before, but has anyone else noticed the Hemiola that Maynard plays during one of the verses of Schism? I remember Danny Carey talking about in one of his online demonstrations, but hadn't caught it until the last time I was listening to Lateralus recently. It's the part where he says "I've DONE the MATH eNOUGH to KNOW the DANGERS OF our SECOND GUESSING..." The song is in 5/8 7/8, but Maynard sings a dotted quarter pulse (more of a triple feel, like 6/8...). Very cool. :)[/QUOTE]

its also called Iambic Pantameter
its the emphasis on certing syllable sounds in a sentence, 2 more examples would be

from Romeo and Juliet:

"I'LL look TO like IF lookING likeING move" which is also a perfectly balanced line as well, Shakespeare actually used that method to display the mental state of a charachter, whether they spoke in slurred syllabes and pantameter, or a balanced clean form of words

an other, less sophisticated example is:

"I am A FLAMing HOMOsexUAL"



hmm, Theater Arts 1...

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]almost forgot, right before my previous post tool had the lead by about ten votes. cross your fingers.[/QUOTE]

I voted for Lateralus, because, although I love all those albums, I actually own Lateralus, and I believe its a genious album. (my second choice woulda been The Wall)

[QUOTE=jamesclelland]almost forgot, right before my previous post tool had the lead by about ten votes. cross your fingers.[/QUOTE]

unfortunately, some lesser humans have now given anyone sporting Tool fanship an instant bad reputation on these boards. So be careful what you guys say, you dont want people thinking you're another mindless fanboy.

I hate Tool fans, I really do.

Not you guys though <3

Are we/those who post regularly on here different than the average tool fan? I guess most, if not all of us are musicians and that might have a large bearing...

I dont really like the usage of iambic pentameters and differant stresses in vocals like that alot, gets on my nerves a little.

Dam[COLOR=White]n[/COLOR] the Tool fanboys. I can honestly say I love Tool but I'm anything but a fanboy.

i hadnt listened to Tool in ages

but i like talking about them and speaking my mind in a moderatly friendly atmosphere

the alt. and indie people are pretty understanding for the most part

i steer clear from R and M



anyway, the point was, im not a fanboy either, i was, and now i use the residual knowldge in an intellectual setting






my girlfriend likes Tool, and that made me realize, isnt it sexist to say just fan boy? arnt there female Tool fans as well?

they use the term "fan [I]boy[/I]" mainly not because of gender, but to make them feel small and childish. Though it's just hypocritical because calling names is just as childish as being a "fan boy".

i guess you can start calling them a fan child if you think its sexist.

Who cares if someone calls you a name, this isnt 3rd grade. If you like Tool, and find thier music stimulating call yourself a fan.

I am a Tool fan and proud of it.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Who cares if someone calls you a name, this isnt 3rd grade. If you like Tool, and find thier music stimulating call yourself a fan.

I am a Tool fan and proud of it.[/QUOTE]

Me too!

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Who cares if someone calls you a name, this isnt 3rd grade. If you like Tool, and find thier music stimulating call yourself a fan.

I am a Tool fan and proud of it.[/QUOTE]

Of course, I'm a huge Tool fan and proud of it. What they were talking about were fan[I]boys[/I]. There's a huge difference.

i always thought fanboy just meant that you were a fan of the band, but w/e, im a Tool fan.

Yup, I can say that I'm a fan because I find 99% of their stuff to be brilliant. They're the best band out there now.

I don't find any need to put up a half-naked poster of Maynard with blue body paint on him.

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I don't find any need to put up a half-naked poster of Maynard with blue body paint on him.[/QUOTE]
Well then, I suppose we'll just have to get you a poster of him in a wig and bra instead.

[QUOTE=MuDvAyNe3B]i always thought fanboy just meant that you were a fan of the band, but w/e, im a Tool fan.[/QUOTE]

A fanboy is a person (the connotation obviously implying a younger kid) who is overly obsessed with the band, but often times not with the actual music but the image or the idea of being a fanatic of the band.

Fanboys are generally blind followers of a band, and pretty stupid/ignorant/rabid in their profession of love for the band.

I love Tool to death, but I don't go around being an idiot about it.

What if you completely support and appreciate the musicality of the band, but also adore the bands theatrical personality?

I love everything about them. I like the two-toned, internally-conflicted Keenan phase. It has been an amazing ride, and I am not ashamed to admit that they turn me on, what ever that means actually.

I'm 15 and stay up til the early morn reading articles, so I guess I'm a fanboy in that way.

does anyone find tool songs very difficult to cover? i know i do

These guys that wanna start a band with me want to cover Schism. I can play the drum part fine, but I don't think these guys realize how many parts of Tool song there are. He probably just got the intro guitar riff down and thought he could do it. Oh well, we'll see. Maybe I'm not giving the guy enough slack, but he just doesn't seem like the type.

I finished Ticks and Leeches today at my drum lessons. took me about three 30 minute sessions. Maybe I can convince those guys to play that instead. It's a lot easier than Schism (SO MANY PARTS!).

It might be easier instrumentally, but i would love to hear the vocalist :)

The drums are easily the hardest part of a tool song. Most of adams effects can be blagged with using a much lighter rig. He never shreds or anything so it's pretty easy, i presume JUstin doesn't do too much tough stuff.. Even the vocals aren't too tough, you're not gonna sound like Maynard, but it's a cover 'n you don't have to! I play most tool songs within a couple of looks at the tabs (guitar)...

How Does Danney Carrey Do It??

practice :thumb:

tool is easy on guitar. i can fully play too many songs to list. my favorite is eulogy and forty six and two. those are a blast to play. i'm in the process of getting a bass to learn those two on bass to record that. hopefully a drummer will come a long to play the last section.

I've often thought about getting a cheap bass + kit and making songs. Problem is i don't know how good i would be at kit, i can play piano 'fairly' well and i'd say i'm a competent guitarist (not blowing ones horn or anything) If i see a kit that sounds reasonable for under £100 i will buy straight away though, something to keep me occupied.

I just had a jam at a few tool songs, i can play them with the tab...Played no quarter, you lied, disposition and sober :cool:

I've learned just about every song they've done but I still have trouble remembering everthying without a tab in front of me. Maybe I'm just lazy but when I try to play Schism for example, I really lose track of how many times to repeat things, etc. It might be easier with a band but...I dont have one right now.

Is You Lied a cover or what?

You Lied is a cover of Justin's old band, Peach.

Oh thanks a lot, I thought it was a cover just didn't know who of.

[QUOTE=clearvision]The drums are easily the hardest part of a tool song. Most of adams effects can be blagged with using a much lighter rig. He never shreds or anything so it's pretty easy, i presume JUstin doesn't do too much tough stuff.. Even the vocals aren't too tough, you're not gonna sound like Maynard, but it's a cover 'n you don't have to! I play most tool songs within a couple of looks at the tabs (guitar)...[/QUOTE]

Try playing "Aenema" correctly on bass.

Or

"Third Eye"
"Schism"
"Parabola"
"Disposition"
"Reflection"

It ain't virtuosic bass, but it ain't exactly bang it out in 20 minutes easy.

Disposition is probably my favorite song to play on bass all togehter, with Guitar it changes, now its Killin In the Name Of by RAtM, then again, Eon Blue Apocolypse/The Patient is a heartfelt favorite of mine too

then again, im just starting to get into Explosions in the Sky, wonderful and strange guitar work with alot of effects

lol am i like the only person in the world who didnt like lateralus or just tool in general?
i cant really get into tool songs but maybe theres somethin im just bein ignorant of so
can some one explain what makes tool's music so loved?
that stuff about them havin too many parts too, do u never just get bored an forget ur listenin to a song of theirs half way through?
il probably get loads of **** from people for askin about this but im curios :thumb:

No you're not the only person that doesn't like it heh.. It seems you either love them or you hate them.. You don't find many people that 'sort of' like tool.. I guess it just clicks with some people.. I suggest you listen attentively a few times through.. It's not easy to digest but it has become my favorate album over th eyears..

i have to say schism, aneama and parabola have grown on my but thats coz i hear them everywhere

i am tryin to give lateralus a fair chance but im forcing myself to listen to it

the videos ive seen tho, i wish i could figure out what theyre about they look really cool, i just dont have a clue about them

i like Tool videos, very wierd and hard to understand at first but you start to get them if you watch them a few times.