Unless you listen to decent an orignal metal that is. :rolleyes:

Psh, there's hardly any. Name a few and I'll tell you why they aren't original. Unless they were the first in their genre of course.

That's a joke right?

I could name 15 original bands who've released an album in the past 6 years.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]That's a joke right?[/QUOTE]
No. Not after I've been brainwashed with prog and jazz and jazz fusion.

I would like to take you up on your claim/

does anyone have a link to the other song they released from crusades thats not detonation. i heard they released one on their website earlier but then took it off and replaced it with detonation

Try Myspace.

You what? You want me to name 15 bands.

Arch Enemy, Arsis, Avenged Sevenfold, Behemoth, Children of Bodom, Cryptopsy, Death, Dream Theater, Extol, Into Eternity, Mastodon, Necrophagist, Opeth, Orphaned Land, Shadows Fall.

[QUOTE=Moses]No. Not after I've been brainwashed with prog and jazz and jazz fusion.

I would like to take you up on your claim/[/QUOTE]

Opeth? Oh there we go ^^^

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Arch Enemy,[/QUOTE]
Okay, even though the quality of the music is not horrible, it's in no way original.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Arsis,[/QUOTE]
Nah. Again, just because it sounds good, doesn't mean it's original or different.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Avenged Sevenfold, [/QUOTE]
They're catchy, but that's about it.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Behemoth, [/QUOTE]
Nothing Behemoth does is original, except maybe layering the vocals like a million times.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Children of Bodom, [/QUOTE]
Pm with harsh vocals? I've had enough of that in my day.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Cryptopsy, [/QUOTE]
One of the few original dm bands around, another notable one would be Vital Remains.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Death, [/QUOTE]
Okay, we're improving a little.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Dream Theater, [/QUOTE]
Dream Theater kind of spawned the trendy new prog metal that everyone wants to do. Ruddess is the only good thing about them these days.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Extol, [/QUOTE]
They are actually pretty unique.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Into Eternity, [/QUOTE]
Even though they are ****ing awesome, it doesn't mean they've done much for metal or they don't do much that's different from any other new prog metal.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Mastodon, [/QUOTE]
Mastodon is awesome and they have their own sound but I fail to see what's original about them.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Necrophagist,[/QUOTE]
Oh god, you picked the worst one. They probalby have the most copy-cat bands about them around. Influential within the genre that only has one sound. Even though they practically started and popularized it, it's old now.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Opeth, [/QUOTE]
There we go.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Orphaned Land, [/QUOTE]
There we go.
[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]Shadows Fall.[/QUOTE]
Way to end on a bad note.

Besides that, all these bands have riffs and use them in almost the same way.

[QUOTE=Moses]Okay, even though the quality of the music is not horrible, it's in no way original.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I would've put Carcass, but the last album the released was Swanson 10 years ago, or even In Flamesor At The Gates.

[QUOTE=]Nah. Again, just because it sounds good, doesn't mean it's original or different.[/QUOTE]
Arsis are incredibly original, one of the few Melodic Death bands that aren't just Gothenburg rip-off.

[QUOTE=]They're catchy, but that's about it.[/QUOTE]
This is where I start to disagree. I really haven't heard to many albums like CoE. Even hair metal was different. How many Motley Crue albums had a full orchestra or choir, and had intelligent lyrics and an average 7 min song length?

[QUOTE=]Nothing Behemoth does is original, except maybe layering the vocals like a million times.[/QUOTE]
Again, they probably weren't the best example, I could've found better, like Bathory.

[QUOTE=]Pm with harsh vocals? I've had enough of that in my day.[/QUOTE]
Please, CoB are a lot different most Power Metal. And besides AYDY? isn't even power metal, it's totally original and just plain metal.

[QUOTE=]One of the few original dm bands around, another notable one would be Vital Remains.[/QUOTE]
Tr00f.

[QUOTE=]Okay, we're improving a little.[/QUOTE]
:)

[QUOTE=]Dream Theater kind of spawned the trendy new prog metal that everyone wants to do. Ruddess is the only good thing about them these days.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make [b]them[/b] any less original.

[QUOTE=]They are actually pretty unique.[/QUOTE]
And incredibly bada[size=2]ss[/size].

[QUOTE=]Even though they are ****ing awesome, it doesn't mean they've done much for metal or they don't do much that's different from any other new prog metal.[/QUOTE]
Meh, to me they sound a lot different from most of the stuff out there, but I haven't dwelved to much into the recent prog. scene.

[QUOTE=]Mastodon is awesome and they have their own sound but I fail to see what's original about them.[/QUOTE]
They have their own unique sound, they don't rip-off anyone, and they have really original melodies and chord progressions.

[QUOTE=]Oh god, you picked the worst one. They probalby have the most copy-cat bands about them around. Influential within the genre that only has one sound.[/QUOTE]
One sound! You can't tell me Demilich, Cryptopsy, Necrophagist, and Anata all sound the same.

[QUOTE=]There we go.

There we go.[/QUOTE]
:)

[QUOTE=]Way to end on a bad note.[/QUOTE]
They were original when they first came out, not now when most NWOAHM sounds relatively close.

how about tool? Id say they are the most unique heavy metal band to come out in the past 15 years by far

ugggh tools just bad man.

Trivium wants to be metallica so bad. just listen and compare

Trivium would be an amazing band with someone besides Matt singing/whatever- the-hell-he-does

[QUOTE=Pablo Sanchezz]Trivium would be an amazing band with someone besides Matt singing/whatever- the-hell-he-does[/QUOTE]
Good sir, tha'ts known as throwing up, or [i]vomiting[/i] where I'm from.

[QUOTE=ValueJudgement]ugggh tools just bad man.

Trivium wants to be metallica so bad. just listen and compare[/QUOTE]
you dont have to like them, but you cant deny the fact that they are incredibly unique. not only did they invent a new type of heavy music 15 years ago, but to this day noone has even been able to come close to replicating their sound. thats originality.

[QUOTE=DKMode]you dont have to like them, but you cant deny the fact that they are incredibly unique. not only did they invent a new type of heavy music 15 years ago, but to this day noone has even been able to come close to replicating their sound. thats originality.[/QUOTE]
are you callin trivium, or metallica original, cuz both copied their mums and then some.

listen to riffs, they are the same. heafy is james timewarped

He's calling Tool original.

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]He's calling Tool original.[/QUOTE]
Tool is quite good and original.

[QUOTE=ValueJudgement]are you callin trivium, or metallica original, cuz both copied their mums and then some.

listen to riffs, they are the same. heafy is james timewarped[/QUOTE]

Except Heafy is a million times lamer, with the vocals, live performances, riffs, and the general quality of songwriting.

Yeah I really dislike this band but I do like some of the riffs off Ascendancy.

[QUOTE=playguitar]Except Heafy is a million times lamer, with the vocals, live performances, riffs, and the general quality of songwriting.[/QUOTE]
ohhh gawd. Heafy is so bad live, wait the whole band is.

So im not Trivium fan, but the new single is sounding really bad to me! I'm not here to flame the band, but what do you Trivium fans think of it?

[QUOTE=Kyle]So im not Trivium fan, but the new single is sounding really bad to me! I'm not here to flame the band, but what do you Trivium fans think of it?[/QUOTE]
I hate Trivial, and I think the new tune is a total Metallica ripoff. :thumb:

[QUOTE=Kyle]So im not Trivium fan, but the new single is sounding really bad to me! I'm not here to flame the band, but what do you Trivium fans think of it?[/QUOTE]

If your talking about Enter the conflgration (or whatver its name is) then i didnt really like it either. There really was no hook for me to sing along to. It just didnt sound good to me.

But i did like detonation.

Wait, the song i'm talking about is [I]Anthem (We are the Fire[/I]).....

Oh haha, sorry. I really dont know what to think about anthem. It just didnt sound like trivium to me. It sounded like they were trying too hard to be someone else. It isnt that bad of a song though, but it just didnt have that trivium feel.

When is the album supposed to come out anyway?

October 10

[QUOTE=Drunken Viking]it's totally [B]original[/B] and just [B]plain[/B] metal. [/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to be a douche or argue, I just thought that was kind of ironic. I know what you mean, and I agree, but the way you worded it was just funny.

I just saw the video for Anthem (We are the Fire) on Kerrang, kinda reminds me of a pop punk band video with the teens and the swimming pool etc.

I see Matt's growing his hair again.

To whoever was saying that they just want to be Metallica or whatever.. That's probably true that they do, but hey who doesnt?

The new album doesn't sound like something Metallica would put out... but when I listen to it, I'm just reminded so much of them =\