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TojesDolan 02-26-2006 10:06 PM

Anyhow... this is my note for the day, and I'm making it public because as a lyricist, it has a lot to do with the inspirational department.

I discovered sadness and melancoly is my ultimate source of inspiration. Everywhere. When I am very sad, I tend to write my best lines, I tend to ge tthe best out of myself, and usually it's the epoque of my life in which I am the most focused. However I don't consider myself a sad person. However, I find in sadness a larger spectrum of emotions than I do in happiness...

I don't know. I am also needy of a female character in my life... but God only knows why the f[size=2]u[/size]ck I'm so strange and I don't get anything out of nowhere. Maybe I'm meant to be alone for a lifetime.

Anyway... I got semi-drunk yesterday.

On a side note, if Burt sees this he will hate me for the rest of his modship. :-|

Sade 02-26-2006 11:29 PM

There is a philosophical reason for the "sadness" factor being the most relevant creatively speaking, and I'll tell you why:

Happiness is static motion. Happiness is destination, happiness is the "end of the road." Happiness is being content, is being satisfied. Content and satisfied is static motion. Static motion is philosophical death. Life is a journey, not a destination.

When you're sad, when things suck; you seek to improve. You question, analyze, interpret, decide, move. You seek the destination, you fight, you struggle; you're mortal and you need to move on.

There is no reason to discuss, analyze, or seek betterment when you are content. Being content is the destination, it's what you want. This is no movement of the mind or of anything. You may as well be dead.

Sadness and melancholy are true mortal emotions. Find beauty in the dissonance, and know that life is meant to be doomed to failure. Find comfort in the fact that you will never be truely happy; that your purpose is to move with depression, not to stand still with contentness.

RunAmokRampant 02-27-2006 02:12 AM

^ mighty well said ol' chap

I study philosophy too at uni but only just started.

Sade 02-27-2006 02:29 AM

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant]^ mighty well said ol' chap

I study philosophy too at uni but only just started.[/QUOTE]

I'm currently giving some lectures on Nihilism and hyper-Existentialism in my area.

The ability to critically think is steadily being lost in our society...

Mind if I ask what you're currently studying?

metaliq 02-27-2006 03:29 AM

I am studying happy thoughts and types of chocolate.

Hmm. I dont like swear words in poetry. Simply for one reason; they are trite.

A word my stepdad says every 3 words lacks any form of emotion when I read it in poetry. It takes away from the "professionalism" that is presented through carefully picked words, in my opinion at least.

EmergencyRoom 02-27-2006 03:31 AM

Slackjaw: If you're looking for some ambient sounding bands to listen to then here are a few suggestions, some have already been mentioned.

Sigur Ros
Godspeed...
Explosions in the Sky
Jaga jazzist
Mogwai
Radiohead ( Kid A is a must listen if you like this sort of thing, more electronic than the others but still excellent)
Porcupine Tree
The Mahivishnu Orchestra ( Strictly more prog-jazz-fusion than post-rock but considering how much i [SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]king hate genre divisions i don't care :-)

All excellent to listen to. I wrote lyrics to one of the explosions in the sky tracks on "the earth is not a cold dead place" as an excercise. It's always a good thing to try if you have writers block. <----total tangent.

If you're into any kind of ambient proggy stuff rather than just more guitar driven stuff then i recommend a bit of diversification into the jazz world and listening to Miles Davis' Bitches Brew.

:thumb:

Sade 02-27-2006 03:46 AM

[QUOTE=EmergencyRoom]Slackjaw: If you're looking for some ambient sounding bands to listen to then here are a few suggestions, some have already been mentioned.

Sigur Ros
Godspeed...
Explosions in the Sky
Jaga jazzist
Mogwai
Radiohead ( Kid A is a must listen if you like this sort of thing, more electronic than the others but still excellent)
Porcupine Tree
The Mahivishnu Orchestra ( Strictly more prog-jazz-fusion than post-rock but considering how much i [SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]king hate genre divisions i don't care :-)

All excellent to listen to. I wrote lyrics to one of the explosions in the sky tracks on "the earth is not a cold dead place" as an excercise. It's always a good thing to try if you have writers block. <----total tangent.

If you're into any kind of ambient proggy stuff rather than just more guitar driven stuff then i recommend a bit of diversification into the jazz world and listening to Miles Davis' Bitches Brew.

:thumb:[/QUOTE]

Barely. You're forgetting Fantomas.

EmergencyRoom 02-27-2006 04:36 AM

[QUOTE=Sade]Barely. You're forgetting Fantomas.[/QUOTE]
You've lost me:confused:

Sade 02-27-2006 09:38 AM

Fantomas are a "horror rock" jam band. Very ambient.

ITRIEDVOODOOONCE 02-27-2006 05:08 PM

Hiatus : finally over

drumass04 02-27-2006 05:17 PM

Yay, welcome back Voodoo!!!

*manic waving*

Timmy P

TojesDolan 02-27-2006 05:23 PM

To what Sade said:

...

Thanks man, I forgot how awesome philosophy is! :thumb: My ethics teacher made me hate everything related to it, including philosophy. Ah, now I feel like finishing reading that Nietzche book I started reading a while ago.

Free crits for everyone!

EDIT:

[QUOTE=Drumass04]*manic waving*[/QUOTE]
We have the :wave: for that u no

slack 02-27-2006 07:38 PM

So, um, anybody have an author or a book that they're diggin at the moment? I started reading [i]Angels[/i] by Denis Johnson again. Love his style of writing; it kinda reminds me of Chuck Palahniuk's style, but less gimmicky.

ER, the only band I haven't heard of on that list is Jaga Jazzist. :) Pretty cool name, I'll have to check them out.

TojesDolan 02-27-2006 07:57 PM

I'm not reading a lot... I should though. A lot of latin/iberoamerican stuff, but nothing concrete. Maybe Gabriel Garcia Marquez a bit, but nothing extra especialized.

Well, that and I have the reading of "The summer of the Barshinkeys" still in queue.

metaliq 02-27-2006 08:11 PM

You mentioned Chucky P, so I presume you have read [I]Fight Club[/I]... Hm.

I also take it you have read [i]Brave New World[/i]... because most everyone has. If not, check that out.

I am also going to read [i]Player Piano[/i] by Vonnegut soon. Has anyone read that?

DeadReligion 02-27-2006 08:44 PM

I'm enjoying American Lesion (Greg Graffin's solo outfit), his piano only version of Cease, is amazing.

slack 02-27-2006 09:11 PM

FYI, 24 is a fu[b]c[/b]king amazing show.

But yeah, I've read Fight Club. The only other book by him that I've read is [i]Survivor[/i], which was actually the first one I read. Then I went through a period where I tried to imitate his writing style, haha. That didn't work out so well. :)

[i]Brave New World[/i] is amazing. I end up re-reading it every other year or so. [i]1984[/i], too. I love dystopian themes for some reason.

TojesDolan 02-27-2006 09:37 PM

Hmm... I should check that stuff out as well.

And yes, Jack Bauer owning half the world is quite amazing. :cool:

FA 02-27-2006 10:59 PM

[U]Brave New World[/U] is such an eerie book. It almost gave me chills when I'd read how the babies were "born" and how they were treated and maintained up until their drone-like lifestyle of adulthood.

metaliq 02-27-2006 11:19 PM

[i]Player Piano[/i], one of the next books I plan on reading, has to do with a robotic world I believe. Hmm.

slack 02-27-2006 11:30 PM

I just read a synopsis of it online.

[i]"Vonnegut's first novel, an unforgiving portrait of an automated and totalitarian future, was published in 1952. A human revolt against the machines which control life was arranged by the machines themselves to prove the futility of such resistance."[/i]

Sounds excellent.

metaliq 02-28-2006 01:10 AM

That it does.

Now I just need to finish re-reading [i]1984[/i]. :)

So no one has read it then? Hmph. Even more fun.

EmergencyRoom 02-28-2006 04:25 AM

[QUOTE=slackjaw]So, um, anybody have an author or a book that they're diggin at the moment? I started reading [i]Angels[/i] by Denis Johnson again. Love his style of writing; it kinda reminds me of Chuck Palahniuk's style, but less gimmicky.

ER, the only band I haven't heard of on that list is Jaga Jazzist. :) Pretty cool name, I'll have to check them out.[/QUOTE]

Also forgot to mention secret machines. And Jaga Jazzist are awesome.

Sade 02-28-2006 06:54 AM

Brave New World > 1984, IMO.

Simply because it captures that sort of dark, mundane growth of trivialities into the systemic culmination of the distopian society.

1984 was excellent, too; though. "It's not losing, it's experiencing a negative win situation."

TojesDolan 02-28-2006 12:04 PM

Reading what others haven't is far more pleasing that it seems.

Really.

<_<

drumass04 02-28-2006 01:40 PM

'Brave new world' is a fantastic book, I really enjoyed reading it. But then again I enjoyed reading '1984'.

At the moment I'm reading 'Made in America' by Bill Bryson, it's absolutely fantastic. It's not a novel, but it is...that makes no sense but nevermind. Very interesting reading about the progression of the English language in the states, and also the roots of place names across the USA. Many actually originate from the Indians. Incredibly interesting read.

Also read 'Of mice and men', though that was for school, a very interesting book when you delve into it a little more deeply than just reading. That also applies to 'The Crucible', another fantastic read.

Timmy P

deathscreamingsheep 02-28-2006 02:00 PM

I'm a big fan of Bryson's writing, while out of date now, his travel books like "Notes from a Small Island" are hilarious.

Also I would recommend a history of nearly everything which, after giving up sciences a couple of years back has rekindled my long dead interest. I have it in tape form and listen to it in the car a lot.

drumass04 02-28-2006 02:23 PM

'Notes from a small island' is one of my favourite of Brysons books. It's kina informative and hilarious at the same time.

Timmy P

pixiesfanyo 02-28-2006 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=EmergencyRoom]Slackjaw: If you're looking for some ambient sounding bands to listen to then here are a few suggestions, some have already been mentioned.

Sigur Ros
Godspeed...
Explosions in the Sky
Jaga jazzist
Mogwai
Radiohead ( Kid A is a must listen if you like this sort of thing, more electronic than the others but still excellent)
Porcupine Tree
The Mahivishnu Orchestra ( Strictly more prog-jazz-fusion than post-rock but considering how much i [SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]king hate genre divisions i don't care :-)
[/QUOTE]

That's all post-rock.



If you want acutal music centered around ambience, I'd suggest

Brian Eno - Ambient 1
Brian Eno - Ambient 2
Autechre - Amber
Sunn - Black One
Sunn - 3: Flight of the Behemoth
Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons
Set Fire to Flames - Sings Reigns Rebuilder

That should be a good start. If you like it, or need any of it. Pixiesfanyo is my AIM.

Nightvision 02-28-2006 03:27 PM

I'm currently debating whether to read [i]War and Peace[/i] - as much to say I've done it as anything else. Has anyone else read it? Is it worth the endless hours?

EDIT: in other news, this is by far and away the best community thread I've seen.

Pride++


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