I wouldnt say it was ****, I prefer Ride The Lightning and Kill Em All but ...And Justice is still a great thrash metal record.

load, reload, and black album had no respectable songs?! what the **** are u talking about? Enter sandman, Nothing Else Matters, King Nothing Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn, Fuel, Unforgiven II just to name a few. Chu you have no taste, how about a little diversity in what u listen too

I listen to HEAPS. I will give anything ONE chance.
But seriously, Black album, Load and ReLoad are just horrible.
Maybe it's because the band went from being this ****en sick thrash band, to a piece of **** mtv band :x (I'm not saying they sold out, I just ****en hate them for changing their style, even if it's what they wanted to do, they're ****en gay for it, St. Anger was a step in the right direction, but it just wasn't enough).

i dont understand most people would say black album was their last best album and that st. anger sucks. but i agree with u st. anger is a step in the right direction more solos will help the next album. but i dont think they are an MTV band thats just wrong. Load and reload had good songs but they did not flow well songs that were unorthadox like low mans lyric and outlaw torn good songs but kind of threw off the albums but Metallica has NEVER released a bad album...of course im biased i grew up listening to them. but i respect your opinion chu even if its not a good one ;)

[QUOTE=madlyinangerwithu]load, reload, and black album had no respectable songs?! what the **** are u talking about? Enter sandman, Nothing Else Matters, King Nothing Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn, Fuel, Unforgiven II just to name a few. Chu you have no taste, how about a little diversity in what u listen too[/QUOTE]

exactly.

even though their change isnt great i still respect them because obviously they were going thru lots of s*** up until st. anger

[QUOTE=madlyinangerwithu]i dont understand most people would say black album was their last best album and that st. anger sucks. but i agree with u st. anger is a step in the right direction more solos will help the next album. but i dont think they are an MTV band thats just wrong. Load and reload had good songs but they did not flow well songs that were unorthadox like low mans lyric and outlaw torn good songs but kind of threw off the albums but Metallica has NEVER released a bad album...of course im biased i grew up listening to them. but i respect your opinion chu even if its not a good one ;)[/QUOTE]
I'm speechless, a Metallica fan respecting an opinion, this one's rare :lol:

I think St. Anger's better then AJFA tbh. The lack of solos? I don't care, chances are I could play a better solo then Kirk these days, he's gone, history.
The drums are what gave me the ****s. Stupid Lars, seriously, the guy's a fat dick. I grew up listenning to Metallica too, my first cd I ever had, my first REAL musical experience was with Ride The Lightning, it blew my mind, and paved the way for Master of Puppets, but in my opinion, Ride is their best CD, followed by Master and Kill 'em All both tied at a very even second, and then St. Anger somewhere, then.. They released other albums? Oh yeah, **** ones :D
But nah, they haven't been doing justice to the name Metallica since like 1990. It's gay, Lars' steals this sick METAL band name so he can create a band that slowly tears itself away from metal. It's horrible.

. . now i just hope better things will come since all or atleast most of their issues are resolved.


. . thrash metal changes . for the better

You cannot say a change from Master to even AJFA was "for the better".
Master is a musical masterpiece, AJFA is.. ****.

i cant belive u just said that Chu...i can never talk to u again...sorry...kirk would tear u to pieces i saw them in concert last year and kirk did a kick *** solo...i dont know im speechless now i cant believe what i just heard

chu u dont like any songs out of load reload or black album? or is it that u just dont like most of the songs?

I dunno, I hate the guy, James and Cliff were the driving forces behind the legend that was Metallica. Cliff dieing, and then James giving up alcohol, that was the final break. Maybe if they all went through mid-life crisis, grew their hair long, took up drugs again, and just spent like 6 months in a recording studio, Kirk taking guitar lessons again, this time focus on theory, so he can compose a decent solo :P

Nah, there are about a 5 songs after Master I can say I like, well, that's not including St. Anger, which isn't bad imo.

u think it was them stopping drinking and drugs that made them bad? it was the drugs that made them go crazy...there is always going to be an album that your not going to like. its not that they stopped drugs or because they were depressed its because everyone likes something different and thats what Metallica does they adapt to what people like in their music. so you didnt like it when they changed from thrash but more people started to like them...but to me they are great i like most metal and im easy to please especially when it comes to Metallica.

More people started to like them, because they're mtv metal.

Edit: By the way, alot of my flaming directed towards etallica is just because I find it hilarious to get you guys psyched on such a thing.
Metallica fans react so fast to anyting about their band, and they're always quick to throw in some defense, even if it's not 100% accurate. I think it's funny.

MTV band? MTV doesnt even play music...

Point. Proven. :lol:

Metallica was the best thing that was on their when they did play their videos. Metallica is the most powerful force in metal i dont care what anyone says.

[QUOTE=madlyinangerwithu]Metallica is the most powerful force in metal i dont care what anyone says.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they were, but they're not anymore.

what needs to happen on the next album is let everyone do their own thing like their old music. St. Anger was awesome but if they left them each to do their own part i think it would have been better. but again Metallica has never had a bad album. oh and Chu in our previous conversation just because u give everything a chance does not mean that you are diverse in what you like...

[QUOTE=Chu]Maybe they were, but they're not anymore.[/QUOTE]
NOW AND ALWAYS...name a better band

[QUOTE=madlyinangerwithu]what needs to happen on the next album is let everyone do their own thing like their old music. St. Anger was awesome but if they left them each to do their own part i think it would have been better. but again Metallica has never had a bad album. oh and Chu in our previous conversation just because u give everything a chance does not mean that you are diverse in what you like...[/QUOTE]
I didn't say what I liked :p
But just say, I mainly listen to thrash/speed, but I listen to pretty much everything else.

What do you mean by name a better band? What characteristics does the band need to be 'better'? And don't give me **** about "Metallica sold x^10 records" because that really doesn't make them 'better'.

u watch too much news...because of napster and the whole media thing they started giving people these ideas that Metallica cant play or they are changing...nobody can think for themselves anymore they have to listen to everyone else. im not saying that you have to like Metallica but i dont think u should take what others think like that their an MTV band...who cares...who cares if they have long hair...who cares if they wrote I disappear for MI:2...doesnt make them bad...They have always treated the fans good. and they have never released a bad cd...

[QUOTE=madlyinangerwithu]NOW AND ALWAYS...name a better band[/QUOTE]

Just a helpful tip here mate, Click edit on your post... Saves posting twice in a row :D

Well Metallica are due to hit the studio later in the year for an early release on there follow up to St Anger album in 06, This is the only news I have heard about it so far, Also this backs up the rumour of Re-Anger...

''Best band'' Is all down to personal preference, not record sales, not publicity, simple personal liking...

I don't know why everyone holds Metallica responsible for Napster, It was 8 bands (One of which was Limp Bizkit :lol: ) That all closed the file sharing program down, Metallica were just the only band to admit, they said they won't hide the truth from there fans...

My opinions are completely formed from my own opinions.
I don't worry about them suing Napster, I have over 20gbs of .mp3s on my comuter that I have download, on the slight chance they do 'bust' me, they can't do much to me, so I say let them sue :D

ur wrong selling millions of records does make them good just does not mean anything to u. as far as everyone else their the best. dont get me wrong i love other bands. Slayer, slipkot, coal chamber, godsmack, hatebreed, System of a Down, and of couse all the old bands, led, acdc, and jimmy. but metallica plays their instruments better they can be more diverse then other bands. what makes me like them so much is their not up their hitting strings, banging drums, and yelling they have skill they can create good music and still keep it heavy. thats what makes them a good band.

[QUOTE=Chu]My opinions are completely formed from my own opinions.
I don't worry about them suing Napster, I have over 20gbs of .mp3s on my comuter that I have download, on the slight chance they do 'bust' me, they can't do much to me, so I say let them sue :D[/QUOTE]

To be honest, it wouldn't be Metallica who sued you, it would be the RIAA

[QUOTE=madlyinangerwithu]ur wrong selling millions of records does make them good just does not mean anything to u. as far as everyone else their the best. dont get me wrong i love other bands. Slayer, slipkot, coal chamber, godsmack, hatebreed, System of a Down, and of couse all the old bands, led, acdc, and jimmy. but metallica plays their instruments better they can be more diverse then other bands. what makes me like them so much is their not up their hitting strings, banging drums, and yelling they have skill they can create good music and still keep it heavy. thats what makes them a good band.[/QUOTE]
Selling millions of records can work either way, in Metallica's situation I don't consider it a good thing, I think that because Metallica 'were' in (First metal band to hit mtv), they got alot of their record sales, these are not fans, they just buy the music because it's in the scene, that has nothing to do with Metallica 'selling-out', it has everything to do with teenagers and what they think is cool, hell when Metallica were teens it was cool to wear skin tight jeans :amaze:, I think an artist like 50 Cent, or Eminem proves to us that it's not _hard_ to be the new cool figure, just do something that's so rebel, and every kid looking for a community, or something to belong to, will be attracted to you.

I am in no way saying Metallica didn't work for what they got, hell yes they worked.

//This might need some re-thinking and additions...

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[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]To be honest, it wouldn't be Metallica who sued you, it would be the RIAA[/QUOTE]
By let them sue, I was meaning let them sue Napster.
RIAA can't touch me, because I'm Australian and different rules apply, but the American media is pushing their rules to Australia! And with our SICK government, weee!! American clone 101.

Well My 1000'th post, I best had post it in here!!
Yes, They worked for it, But agree alot of record sales were just random people buying for the sake of it... My mum has The Black album, She got it the day it came out, she listenes to Ashlee Simpson!!! The only things she ever did that were Metal like were.. Buy the black album.. And go and see Guns N Roses, but My dad made her go lol

Well the figure Metallica payed for court lawer fees was approx, $750,000, But in all due respect, Metallica did say to a Napster Rep.. We don't want this song released yet, Can you please take it off?? They didn't, they asked once more, take it down or be forced to take it down by legal action.. Again they didn't, now the creator of napster is moneyless, poor, and is paying like $100 a week to Metallica lol

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]Well My 1000'th post, I best had post it in here!!
Yes, They worked for it, But agree alot of record sales were just random people buying for the sake of it... My mum has The Black album, She got it the day it came out, she listenes to Ashlee Simpson!!! The only things she ever did that were Metal like were.. Buy the black album.. And go and see Guns N Roses, but My dad made her go lol[/QUOTE]
Exactly, so when I see people say "Oh but they sold x^10 records!" I think their argument is redundant.

Edit: Congrats on your 1,000th man :)

[QUOTE=Chu]Exactly, so when I see people say "Oh but they sold x^10 records!" I think their argument is redundant.

Edit: Congrats on your 1,000th man :)[/QUOTE]


Hey thanks mate :thumb: I appreciate it

(I better get to work anyways, Take care all :wave: )

P.S have you noticed the 'MX' in Green and red in my avatar?

[QUOTE=LarsAgi007]P.S have you noticed the 'MX' in Green and red in my avatar?[/QUOTE]
lol :)
Well, not until you mentioned it.