I kind of get that now, but I'll need further explanation to get it.

Thank you, though!

Im glad you understood my crappy explanation. :)

Top number is how many beats are in a measure, and the bottom number is what type of note gets the beat.

The whole note always has four quarters. The whole note can be divided into four parts (quarter notes), eight parts (eighth note), etc. So if the time signature is 4/4, then each quarter note gets a beat, and there are four quarter notes in one measure. If it is 6/8, then each eighth note gets a beat, and there are 6 eight notes in every measure. Whereas in a x/4 time signature, there are two eighth notes to every beat, in a x/8 time signature each eighth note gets its own beat.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]22/4 = 5 bars of 4/4 and one in half time
Hey ya is something like... 7 bars of 4/4 and one in half time.. I can't remember exactly[/QUOTE]

That's like saying all Meshuggah songs are simple because they're all in 4/4.

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Sure, it can be 4 bars of 4/4 and one in cut time, but it can also be a 7/7/8 break. Either way, why don't you try and play the drum solo in 46 & 2, then do it live to perfection every other night in front of ~20,000 people.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]That's like saying all Meshuggah songs are simple because they're all in 4/4.

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Sure, it can be 4 bars of 4/4 and one in cut time, but it can also be a 7/7/8 break. Either way, why don't you try and play the drum solo in 46 & 2, then do it live to perfection every other night in front of ~20,000 people.[/QUOTE]


ouch.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]That's like saying all Meshuggah songs are simple because they're all in 4/4.

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Sure, it can be 4 bars of 4/4 and one in cut time, but it can also be a 7/7/8 break. Either way, why don't you try and play the drum solo in 46 & 2, then do it live to perfection every other night in front of ~20,000 people.[/QUOTE]

the drum solo in 46&2 isn't in 22/4.... If it's a 7/7/8 split, then it's compound time and would be 22/8 (or 22/16).
22/4 implies that it's 4/4/4/4/4/2
Technically, 22/4 doesn't really exist

Well my friends, I'm off too see Tool in about 20 minutes. I'm so excited.

[QUOTE=Huber]Well my friends, I'm off too see Tool in about 20 minutes. I'm so excited.[/QUOTE]
Awesome. Full report when you get back. They'll probably suck.

[QUOTE=Kage]Awesome. Full report when you get back. They'll probably suck.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. Terrible band :p

What does your avatar mean? The area I live in is called the Inland Empire.

Personally I'm [I]really glad[/I] I'm not seeing Tool. I'm sure it wouldn't be awesome to see Danny Carey completely pwn the drums in concert.

Yeah, this is probably a bad idea.

Man, were good at this sarcastic thing.

>.>
<.<

Right?

[QUOTE=Huber]Yeah. Terrible band :p

What does your avatar mean? The area I live in is called the Inland Empire.[/QUOTE]
New film that premeired yesterday from my favorite director, David Lynch. It may or may not partly take place in the Inland Empire. It's a cool name though.

Cool, I'll have to check that out.

It premiered at the Venice Film Festival, so it'll be a few months before it goes to theaters. But when it does, you'll hear me raving on about it plenty, so don't worry about missing it. ;)

I like David Lynch! I'll have to see this one.

Knoife - Well then I guess it's 22/8, but it doesn't matter. The point is, Carey is okay at drumming and stuff.

Lunch - Yeah, I agree with you. I've heard Justin's bass tone only gets 10 times better live, and it's true. I felt so jipped. :-/

Hey, there's an Inland Empire in Washington as well. Wahah, um, yeah.

Alright, I'm back. My show was great. They've gone like the other shows reported. Amazing new visuals, great setlists. But there's one thing guys...








They did it.






I couldn't believe it when I heard the first few moments...








THEY F[size=2]U[/size]CKIN' PLAYED WINGS FOR MARIE/10,000 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was SOOOOOOO amazing. I felt really luck to have seen it. They played it almost perfectly. There were no rain sounds, but it weas okay without. Toward the beginning of Wings though Maynard had some problem that was never explained and had to run off stages and missed some of his lines. That's all though, other than that it was great. I'm also impressed by how great the crowd was during the song. Aside from an inevitable fight going on below me, everyone was very into the song and wasn't obnoxious and ruining it like I'd expected.

Best show ever. I was floored.

That's awesome :thumb:

I really wish I was going to see them, but my friends already got tickets, and I can't afford them anyways :(

Oh man, I'd kill to see WFM/10kd. I can just imagine all the lighting and the visuals.

The lighting and visuals during that song are outstanding.

Lateralus' and Rosetta Stoned's rival them though.

That conecert sounds killer Huber.

Does anyone knows if Tool plays Reflection live?

Tool fans are pretentious. I enjoy Tool, but I refuse to worship them like you fanboi's. It's rediculous, you would bathe in Maynard's piss while touching yourself to Stinkfist if given the chance. Tool is nothing special, Adam Jones is a mediocre guitarist, Justin Chancellor is the same. Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, but nothing more. And Maynard, while he does have some amazing pipes he seems like a diva; just a bit too full of himself.

[QUOTE=Daven]That conecert sounds killer Huber.

Does anyone knows if Tool plays Reflection live?[/QUOTE]

One could only wish. Unfortunetly they don't play great songs like D/R/T, Intension, The Grudge, Ticks and Leeches etc. Very often. Mainly becuase of the Tool fans that have barely scratched the surface and only know songs like 46 and 2, Stinkfist, and Vicarious(which is possibly the worst Tool song created)

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]Tool fans are pretentious. I enjoy Tool, but I refuse to worship them like you fanboi's. It's rediculous, you would bathe in Maynard's piss while touching yourself to Stinkfist if given the chance. Tool is nothing special, Adam Jones is a mediocre guitarist, Justin Chancellor is the same. Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, but nothing more. And Maynard, while he does have some amazing pipes he seems like a diva; just a bit too full of himself.[/QUOTE]

It's clear you're the retard here. No one on this thread would go to any lengths you just mentioned, or anywhere near.

Adam Jones is average at guitar, true, Justin is a GOOD bassist, and Danny is an AWESOME drummer. Maynard's voice is also very, very good, and I honestly don't see what his personality has to do with anything, tbh. All in all, they're a great band, one of my favourites, even though I don't listen to them all that much anymore.

Also, Vicarious is like the 3rd best song on the new album behind The Pot and 10,000 Days. The other songs are all pretty mediocre in various ways, tbh.

I'm about as far away from a Tool fanboy as you get. I like their music.

Pretentious of me, eh?

i like their music only, too.

i had a time when i read a lot and "tried" to "understand" them... to worship them a little bit, and so on. read interviews etc. but after some weeks i stopped. i prefer the music and i worship other personalities like trent reznor (not as much as one year ago, meanwhile i hardly listen to his music) and CoB but recently i try to discover other awesome bands with great musicians;

[QUOTE=Shadius]It's clear you're the retard here. No one on this thread would go to any lengths you just mentioned, or anywhere near.

Adam Jones is average at guitar, true, Justin is a GOOD bassist, and Danny is an AWESOME drummer. Maynard's voice is also very, very good, and I honestly don't see what his personality has to do with anything, tbh. All in all, they're a great band, one of my favourites, even though I don't listen to them all that much anymore.

Also, Vicarious is like the 3rd best song on the new album behind The Pot and 10,000 Days. The other songs are all pretty mediocre in various ways, tbh.[/QUOTE]
This is when it the conversation becomes condescending. I was being facetious, you'll learn big scary words like that when you get out of high school. See, I know no one would go to these lengths, but my friend, I was trying to make a point. Some people(maybe not you) seem to think Tool is from another planet, gods, deities. They're nothing special.

Vicarious is a joke of a song, rehashed, not to mention oh so cliche Tool material, but hey, if that's what gets you off kudos. Good luck with that, I don't feel much like arguing as of now.

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]Tool fans are pretentious. I enjoy Tool, but I refuse to worship them like you fanboi's. It's rediculous, you would bathe in Maynard's piss while touching yourself to Stinkfist if given the chance. Tool is nothing special, Adam Jones is a mediocre guitarist, Justin Chancellor is the same. [B]Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, but nothing more[/B]. And Maynard, while he does have some amazing pipes he seems like a diva; just a bit too full of himself.[/QUOTE]

Haha, how much more does he need?

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]This is when it the conversation becomes condescending. I was being facetious, you'll learn big scary words like that when you get out of high school. See, I know no one would go to these lengths, but my friend, I was trying to make a point. Some people(maybe not you) seem to think Tool is from another planet, gods, deities. They're nothing special.

Vicarious is a joke of a song, rehashed, not to mention oh so cliche Tool material, but hey, if that's what gets you off kudos. Good luck with that, I don't feel much like arguing as of now.[/QUOTE]
You'll find very few of the regulars in this thread regard Tool with any more esteem than just being a good band. And, yes, 10,000 Days is derivative, but they do their own formula better than they ever have, so I'm happy with it.

I agree with you that Tool gets way too much undeserved praise from fanboys.

[QUOTE=Kage]You'll find very few of the regulars in this thread regard Tool with any more regard than just being a good band. And, yes, 10,000 Days is derivative, but they do their own formula better than they ever have, so I'm happy with it.

I agree with you that Tool gets way too much undeserved praise from fanboys.[/QUOTE]

Smart Guy ^^^^

No sarcasm.

Music isnt about ego.

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]One could only wish. Unfortunetly they don't play great songs like D/R/T, Intension, The Grudge, Ticks and Leeches etc. Very often. Mainly becuase of the Tool fans that have barely scratched the surface and only know songs like 46 and 2, Stinkfist, and Vicarious(which is possibly the worst Tool song created)[/QUOTE]

Hmmmmm. I'd love to see Reflection live, dammit haha.

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]Tool fans are pretentious. I enjoy Tool, but I refuse to worship them like you fanboi's. It's rediculous, you would bathe in Maynard's piss while touching yourself to Stinkfist if given the chance. Tool is nothing special, Adam Jones is a mediocre guitarist, Justin Chancellor is the same. Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, but nothing more. And Maynard, while he does have some amazing pipes he seems like a diva; just a bit too full of himself.[/QUOTE]
You're a stupid moron, shut up and die.

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]One could only wish. Unfortunetly they don't play great songs like D/R/T, Intension, The Grudge, Ticks and Leeches etc. Very often. [SIZE="2"]Mainly becuase of the Tool fans that have barely scratched the surface and only know songs like 46 and 2, Stinkfist, and Vicarious[/SIZE](which is possibly the worst Tool song created)[/QUOTE]


So, let me get this straight. You are upset because Tool fans like songs from the band Tool?


[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]Tool fans are pretentious. I enjoy Tool, but I refuse to worship them like you fanboi's. It's rediculous, you would bathe in Maynard's piss while touching yourself to Stinkfist if given the chance. [B]Tool is nothing special[/B], Adam Jones is a mediocre guitarist, Justin Chancellor is the same. Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, but nothing more. And Maynard, while he does have some amazing pipes he seems like a diva; just a bit too full of himself.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, more anger towards Tool fans for liking them...
Tool is nothing special? Your ignorance intrigues me.


[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]This is when it the conversation becomes condescending. I was being facetious, you'll learn big scary words like that when you get out of high school. See, I know no one would go to these lengths, but my friend, I was trying to make a point. Some people(maybe not you) seem to think Tool is from another planet, gods, deities. They're nothing special.[/QUOTE]

Your facetiousness doesn't fool anyone here. You're being serious with your ignorant rant about how you hate Vicarious, and Tool fans for liking songs [I]you[/I] think are docile.

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]Vicarious is a joke of a song, rehashed, not to mention oh so cliche Tool material, but hey, if that's what gets you off kudos. Good luck with that, I don't feel much like arguing as of now.[/QUOTE]


I see nothing wrong with Vicarious or the way it was written and produced. I also can't see how you depict it as a cliche, when obviously it isn't.
People like you that are totally lost when it comes to what Tool try to do each album and music theory in general are a cancer to the industry, both on the internet and off. I hope someday you will see why music is music and learn that your ignorance tonight has been noticed by thousands.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]Tool fans are pretentious. I enjoy Tool, but I refuse to worship them like you fanboi's. It's rediculous, you would bathe in Maynard's piss while touching yourself to Stinkfist if given the chance. Tool is nothing special, Adam Jones is a mediocre guitarist, [b]Justin Chancellor is the same[/b]. Danny Carey is an amazing drummer, but nothing more. And Maynard, while he does have some amazing pipes he seems like a diva; just a bit too full of himself.[/QUOTE]

do you even play bass you tard? that man is god. you are a tard...why would you even post this seriosuly? I bet you like some lame band like dragonforce or something where every song sounds the same with solos that drag on for half the song. Thats not even music when it comes to that thats just like going hey I wanna show how lame i am that i only know one riff.

[Quote=Flynn]I see nothing wrong with Vicarious or the way it was written and produced. I also can't see how you depict it as a cliche, when obviously it isn't.
People like you that are totally lost when it comes to what Tool try to do each album and music theory in general are a cancer to the industry, both on the internet and off. I hope someday you will see why music is music and learn that your ignorance tonight has been noticed by thousands.

Thanks.[/Quote]

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[QUOTE=Statutory Ape]One could only wish. Unfortunetly they don't play great songs like D/R/T, Intension, The Grudge, Ticks and Leeches etc. Very often. Mainly becuase of the Tool fans that have barely scratched the surface and only know songs like 46 and 2, Stinkfist, and Vicarious(which is possibly the worst Tool song created)[/QUOTE]

They played The Grudge at every show on the Lateralus tour and it was the opening song and the also frequently had D/R/T in their setlist on that tour aswell. D[I]IP****[/I] MAN you thought wrong.

[QUOTE=Salivation]do you even play bass you tard? that man is god.
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Fanboi. Point proven.

/Thread closed.

/thread still open

Maybe next time.

While I'll agree that there are plenty of Tool fanboys, I think there is an overreaction to them in general. Whenever fanboy comes up people immediately seem to gravitate to Tool fans. On the forums at least, it's like Led Zeppelin/Jimmy Page fanboys. Everyone always says they are everywhere, but in fact almost none of the regulars on the forum are what we would call fanboys. The fanboyism tends to come from people that don't post very much/don't know very much.

[QUOTE=Insipid2000]They played The Grudge at every show on the Lateralus tour and it was the opening song and the also frequently had D/R/T in their setlist on that tour aswell. D[I]IP****[/I] MAN you thought wrong.[/QUOTE]

Okay.

[QUOTE=Lunch]/thread still open

Maybe next time.
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Point proven?