[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Yeah I know but stuff like finger rolling on one fret would require this. Something like the intro to Viking Kong by Racer X:

E-5---7---8----
B--5---5---5---
G---5---5---5--

I use up, up, down for the picking and you roll your finger over the strings at the 5th fret but you're muting different strings with different parts of your finger because you keep it in one place. It's definately something you have to get used to at first but after a while, it's a large piece of chocolate cake.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. I roll my fingers alot already. I've try and be more consious and see what I'm doing.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]No no, you do that after you play a note so it doesn't ring into another. The motion has to be at light speed though, especially when performing such techniques as sweep picking. This technique is essential for sweeping and it's possible to mute this way (left hand) with no right hand muting at all and still have it sound clean.[/QUOTE]

Is it? That's always been hard for me to do, I have to rely heavily on right-hand muting when I sweep pick. Maybe I should work on my left hand muting.

to be good, you really need to use both in conjunction to get it sounding very clean.

A lot of people rely too much on their right hand muting to make up for shoddy technique. I tend to do the exact opposite, and rely too much on my fret hand muting technique :/

[QUOTE=Toaster]Is it? That's always been hard for me to do, I have to rely heavily on right-hand muting when I sweep pick. Maybe I should work on my left hand muting.[/QUOTE]

Well in my opinion it is yeah. As long as I don't hit open strings by accident with my right hand, I can get it to sound clean without muting. Do note that I'm not Jason becker or Rusty Cooley though, I just mean at a steady speed, when I do it properly I usually mute the downstrokes because I think it sounds good.

so it doesn't matter if i do it left or right hand... i can use both... legato upwards -> left hand muting, legato downwards -> right hand muting. that's fine and yeah... both techniques similtonously is the best :thumb:

i want to record some of my sweeping arpeggios ... would like to see if you think they are "clean enough" *g*


btw. i fell in love with the diminished (?) chord :D
---9
--8
-7
its the one witht the tritonus (?) (i'm not sure if its the same name in english) whatever.
it has such a fantastic sound i love...

[QUOTE=repcak]so it doesn't matter if i do it left or right hand... i can use both... legato upwards -> left hand muting, legato downwards -> right hand muting. that's fine and yeah... both techniques similtonously is the best :thumb:

i want to record some of my sweeping arpeggios ... would like to see if you think they are "clean enough" *g*


btw. i fell in love with the diminished (?) chord :D
---9
--8
-7
its the one witht the tritonus (?) (i'm not sure if its the same name in english) whatever.
it has such a fantastic sound i love...[/QUOTE]

You should record something. :thumb:

Yeah the diminshed chord is good. It's a bit overused in metal though since nearly everyone must use it at some point and you can find it in loads of solos, e.g Laiho, Becker, Friedman, Gibert, Cooley etc all use it loads and all the people that are influenced by them probably do too so you kinda have to use it carefully if you don't want to sound cliche. The interval in English is Tritone.

yes, i will record something soon. i travel to vienna tomorrow evening.

diminished chord... ah, ok... overused? when i first learnt the chord (musical and harmony theory) by my guitar teacher i thought "stupid chord ... i can't even play it, the stretching is too big for met, etc." and now i looked at the tabs of some Nile song and in one of them i suddenly saw the diminished chord and then i played it and i started to like it...
in general i like the tritone... its a loverelationship :lol:

[QUOTE=repcak]yes, i will record something soon. i travel to vienna tomorrow evening.

diminished chord... ah, ok... overused? when i first learnt the chord (musical and harmony theory) by my guitar teacher i thought "stupid chord ... i can't even play it, the stretching is too big for met, etc." and now i looked at the tabs of some Nile song and in one of them i suddenly saw the diminished chord and then i played it and i started to like it...
in general i like the tritone... its a loverelationship :lol:[/QUOTE]

Well it's not the diminished chord that's used alot, it's the fully diminished arpeggio.

E-6-3-------3--9-6-------6--12-9---------9--
B-----5---5--------8---8----------11---11----
G-------6------------9---------------12------

Etc, you can find that shape in loads of solos from the guys I mentioned earlier.

ups... that's a very similar arpeggio part from troy stetina's book :p

tbh. i like this arpeggio much more (its my favourite one)
-15-11---------11
-------13---13
----------12

afterwards follows those two arpeggios
-15-12--------12
------13---13
---------12
AND
-20-15-----15
------16-16
--------17

i don't care much about the other ones, though they are important too, but the sound (especially of the first one) is a sound i love.
i want to concentrate mainly on those...

[QUOTE]tbh. i like this arpeggio much more (its my favourite one)
-15-11---------11
-------13---13
----------12[/QUOTE]

Nice. I just played that arpeggio with the 10th fret replacing the 11th, it sounds all eclectic and proggy :p

[QUOTE=ICB]Nice. I just played that arpeggio with the 10th fret replacing the 11th, it sounds all eclectic and proggy :p[/QUOTE]

Csus2 eh? :smoke:

Repcak: the one you like is a Cmin btw, and I noticed all the arpeggios you listed were from that powertab I uploaded a while ago. :chug:

Does anyone else notice how the thread title isn't remotely related to the discussion topic anymore?

Oh well, it's guitar technique, it helps play Bodom songs, it could relate if you think about it. :)

I guess. For some reason I [I]really[/I] dislike guitar talk around here, and that's why I never pop in anymore. Oh well...

Well it just seems to come up alot since Repcak asks for help alot and I'm more than happy to give my opnion on things.

Everything strictly CoB related has been done to death unfortunately.

Maybe when the new DVD comes out, it will spark some sort of discussion, that's if alot of people here actually buy it or in Dylan's case, torrent it.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Does anyone else notice how the thread title isn't remotely related to the discussion topic anymore?[/QUOTE]
sooo!


It's quality discussion.


@ Mitch, You seriously know a scary amount of theory.

[QUOTE]Csus2 eh?[/QUOTE]

Don't get technical on me here! :p

[QUOTE]Does anyone else notice how the thread title isn't remotely related to the discussion topic anymore?[/QUOTE]

It's been this way for SO long :lol:

[QUOTE=ICB]


It's been this way for SO long :lol:[/QUOTE]
Yeah. it's fine this way as well.

It's a community for the Bodom fans of this forum.

Speaking of Bodom, I'm still waiting for the dvd. :thumb:

[QUOTE=ICB]Don't get technical on me here! :[/QUOTE]
It's just a C major chord with the second played in place of the root.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]It's just a C major chord with the second played in place of the root.[/QUOTE]
Don't be so simple!

[QUOTE]It's just a C major chord with the second played in place of the root.[/QUOTE]

This I know.

That is why they call it a sustained second chord :p

*suspended

Okay I'm done. :p

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]*suspended

Okay I'm done. :p[/QUOTE]

Dammit, I [I]ALWAYS [/I]get those two mixed up!

Oh well, I just play the fu[SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]ker, I don't care.

ugggh. This theory makes no dred the thought of my upcoming class in it.

[QUOTE=ICB]Dammit, I [I]ALWAYS [/I]get those two mixed up!

Oh well, I just play the fu[SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]ker, I don't care.[/QUOTE]
It happens. It matters not what you call the chord; it only matters how METAL it sounds!

[QUOTE]It happens. It matters not what you call the chord; it only matters how METAL it sounds![/QUOTE]

Very true \m/ . I just Deathlok it.

:p

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]It's just a C major chord with the second played in place of the [b]root[/b].[/QUOTE]

*third.

Damn typos, that would be a terrible mistake while playing. :p

I LOVE Deathklok! The third episode with Murderface's birthday is a classic.

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]*third.[/QUOTE]
Score another theory point for the amazing Mitch.

Any Mitch! What's your sound click?