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Squirrel 08-29-2006 11:15 AM

I don't mean it in a harsh way, but if Iced Earth is too hard for you rhythmically, then you have a [B]long[/B] way to go.

repcak 08-29-2006 11:22 AM

Iced Earth is fast, thats all... i once learnt some Iced Earth riffs but not in the speed they should be.

Shadows Within 08-29-2006 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]Iced Earth ... to fast.

i meatn mostly timing, gallops, offbeats (8th, 16th), breaks in a rhythm, etc. but maybe slowing down would be the better option.

once i had a period when i was playing the whole day, but it was short. i play for 2-3hours most... recently (the last few days) for 4-6hours, but i never played 9h :eek:
my other problem is/was that i made big breaks... f.e. i haven't played guitar for 4months! i made too often too big breaks without reason... now i take playing guitar serious since 2006.[/QUOTE]
Iced Earth is like the king of galloping riffs.

Squirrel 08-29-2006 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]Iced Earth is fast, thats all... i once learnt some Iced Earth riffs but not in the speed they should be.[/QUOTE]

They really aren't fast.

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 11:33 AM

I don't think I've heard any Iced Earth, I'll check them out in a few hours.


I just realised I have 2 albums so I'll give them a listen.

Squirrel 08-29-2006 11:33 AM

I'd say they're like Metallica meets 'Maiden.

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 11:36 AM

In that case, I'll probably like a few riffs/solos here and there, and find most of it boring. I probably won't like the vocals much either.

Forlorn Hope 08-29-2006 02:52 PM

I like the vocalist they had for Something Wicked This Way Comes. I think that was the album...it's the one with Meloncholy (Holy Martyr) on it.

Squirrel 08-29-2006 02:57 PM

Matt Barlow, he was on like, every release but a couple.

repcak 08-30-2006 08:28 AM

wow... i just hit the 140bpm mark... some days ago i hit the 120bpm and now 140bpm! :eek: the problem mainly was not that i'm not able to play that fast, but to play it in time with the metronome... i wasn't able to "hear" every click while playing at this speed... now i can. so Inferno is within reach

i played inferno at 140, then 130 ... though without metronome i play it faster than 140, ... i just have to get used to this "click" at 150 :)
i'm so happy... i reached a speed i always wanted to reach when i started to play guitar :D

tbh... its a "little" bit sloppy... but not that horrible. with a little practise there won't be any sloppy notes


btw. when i look back it was stupid that i started to learn "inferno" though i exactly knew i am not able to play it at 150 (or maybe i thought i will?!) - hm... i think i started to learn it, but never thought i will ever reach the 150bmp mark... hehe

unknownsoldier12 08-30-2006 08:37 AM

congrats...

I can't even find my metronome

MRDuCran 08-30-2006 10:17 AM

Cool man, good luck on getting it up to 100% accuracy and full speed.

If it was me, I'd go down until it wasn't a "little" bit sloppy, though.

repcak 08-30-2006 10:39 AM

thanks,

i know... right now the "fun" is more important for me :)

in this case: fun = fast ^^

unknownsoldier12 08-30-2006 10:43 AM

it would be more beneficial to eliminate the mistakes as quickly as possibly. If you practice mistakes, you are really not progressing, ya know

repcak 08-30-2006 10:51 AM

c'mon, don't be too strict... 5min fun, 30min practising :p call it "practising in bursts" fast, slow, fast, slow ^^

the last week was a great week... i played a lot, increased my speed, and overall i made huge steps forward in playing.
one of the things is legato... i can play trills for some minutes without problems... one week ago i played trills for 30seconds and i had to stop... but whatever - i have one question (though i don't know if you ever practised legato)

-10h12p10h13p10
-----------------10h12p10h13p10
----------------------------------10h12p10h13p10 etc.
i can mute the strings going up with my left hand/fingers

but, how do you mute the strings going down?
----------------------------------10h12p10h13p10
-----------------10h12p10h13p10
-10h12p10h13p10

it happens that the string i played before rings, when i change the string... its much more difficult to mute the string and i have no idea how to do it best. any experience? suggestions? i tried to mute it with the left hand/fingers but this seems very difficult and tricky OR i will mute it with my picking hand, but then i will change techniques -> going up = left hand, going down = picking hand.

:rolleyes:

unknownsoldier12 08-30-2006 10:53 AM

o well, if you are only at that speed for a small amount of time, then reducing it for a longer duration, you can't argue with that.

You gave the impression that you are over clocking yourself. Speaking from experience, it only does yourself a dis-service

Prince Charming 08-30-2006 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=Squirrel]They really aren't even good.[/QUOTE]
Word!!!

They are about as generic and uninspired as the rest of power metal type stuff.

At least they don't fly on dragons.

unknownsoldier12 08-30-2006 01:37 PM

as far as muting goes, its widely accepted that if you are playing the bottom 3 strings, use your pick hand, top 3, use your fret hand...

for me, it depends where im going, and where i came from.

for example, if im playing on the high e string, and want to switch to the B string, ill use my fret hand.

If im playing on the low e string, and moving to the a string, ill use my pick hand.

with a lot of high gain amps, they will require you to mute with your fret hand most of the time to get rid of unwanted noise.

Prince Charming 08-30-2006 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=unknownsoldier12]as far as muting goes, its widely accepted that if you are playing the bottom 3 strings, use your pick hand, top 3, use your fret hand...

for me, it depends where im going, and where i came from.

for example, if im playing on the high e string, and want to switch to the B string, ill use my fret hand.

If im playing on the low e string, and moving to the a string, ill use my pick hand.

with a lot of high gain amps, they will require you to mute with your fret hand most of the time to get rid of unwanted noise.[/QUOTE]

I always mute with my picking hand. How does one properly mute with a fret hand?

MudvayneFreak666 08-30-2006 03:21 PM

hey guys. im back. I tried are you dead you? and if you want peace prepare for wars very hard. I cannot play them well, way harder then death blooms or happy?

Shadows Within 08-30-2006 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=MudvayneFreak666]hey guys. im back. I tried are you dead you? and if you want peace prepare for wars very hard. I cannot play them well, way harder then death blooms or happy?[/QUOTE]
Duh...it's nu-metal...not that hard. and it's "Are You Dead Yet?" and "If You Wan't Peace Prepare For War"

Shadows 08-30-2006 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=Prince Charming]I always mute with my picking hand. How does one properly mute with a fret hand?[/QUOTE]
Touching your finger lightly to the string, just as you would for a natural harmonic.

Po0sH 08-30-2006 04:17 PM

Hey guys, I just got a call from COBHC management, apparently alexi was sick, so im gonna fill in for him during european unholy alliance tour. lol[QUOTE=Shadows Within]Duh...it's nu-metal...not that hard. and it's "Are You Dead Yet?" and "If You Wan't Peace Prepare For War"[/QUOTE]
lol obsessive compulsive

Prince Charming 08-30-2006 06:58 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Touching your finger lightly to the string, just as you would for a natural harmonic.[/QUOTE]
That's fine and dandy for playing 000000000000

but what are 33-55-6-4-3-
pm....................

MRDuCran 08-30-2006 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=Prince Charming]That's fine and dandy for playing 000000000000

but what are 33-55-6-4-3-
pm....................[/QUOTE]

He didn't really explain it well.

You put your finger down onto the string, then press it to the fretboard to sound the note.

Then to mute it, you decrease the pressure so the string comes off of the fretboard but your finger is still touching the string, this results in silence if done correctly.

Prince Charming 08-30-2006 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]He didn't really explain it well.

You put your finger down onto the string, then press it to the fretboard to sound the note.

Then to mute it, you decrease the pressure so the string comes off of the fretboard but your finger is still touching the string, this results in silence if done correctly.[/QUOTE]
I'll alright. I'll try that tonight. So, then what's the difference between doing that on the 1st fret and 5th fret, if you don't even play the note?

MRDuCran 08-30-2006 09:59 PM

No no, you do that after you play a note so it doesn't ring into another. The motion has to be at light speed though, especially when performing such techniques as sweep picking. This technique is essential for sweeping and it's possible to mute this way (left hand) with no right hand muting at all and still have it sound clean.

Prince Charming 08-30-2006 10:04 PM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]No no, you do that after you play a note so it doesn't ring into another. The motion has to be at light speed though, especially when performing such techniques as sweep picking. This technique is essential for sweeping and it's possible to mute this way (left hand) with no right hand muting at all and still have it sound clean.[/QUOTE]
Ohhhh! Ok. That makes a lot of sense, though I don't want to sweep. ^)^

NP Warmen- Return Of Salieri

MRDuCran 08-30-2006 10:08 PM

Yeah I know but stuff like finger rolling on one fret would require this. Something like the intro to Viking Kong by Racer X:

E-5---7---8----
B--5---5---5---
G---5---5---5--

I use up, up, down for the picking and you roll your finger over the strings at the 5th fret but you're muting different strings with different parts of your finger because you keep it in one place. It's definately something you have to get used to at first but after a while, it's a large piece of chocolate cake.

Po0sH 08-31-2006 06:00 AM

i like cake


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