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MRDuCran 08-29-2006 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]recently i only play guitar... i'm so fukking motivated :p


i was talking about the guitar technique magazine (your thread: [url]http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483164[/url] )
[/QUOTE]

Oh right ok. Well to me, guitar magazines are pointless because there's hardly anything they can teach me about technique. As I said, the only thing stopping me getting better is not practising.

I also downloaded the audio for this magazine:

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/YOUNG-GUITAR-EXTRA-ALEXI-LAIHO-GUITAR-TAB-WITH-CD_W0QQitemZ180022317998QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

Some tracks are terrible. The playing is bad, the tone is even worse.

Same with my Paul Gilbert special, the playing is sooo sloppy, it really doesn't set a good example.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 08:15 AM

does anyone have an archive of Hatebreeder tab (the album, not just that track)

I was thinking straight up tab, or if you could export a guitar pro tab to adobe acrobat, that would be a God-send

repcak 08-29-2006 08:52 AM

[QUOTE=MRDuCran]Yeah probably. He already has that Trey book, or whatever his name is.

So I don't see why he'd need anything else, he likes it alot.[/QUOTE]
yeah, exactly. i sat down and said: "now you learn some legato licks and practise them"
i have the legato exercises by john petrucci (rock discipline) and troy stetina's book (speed mechanics for lead guitar). the exercises are the same, but JP is showing exercises, Troy is showing LICK-exercises which are awesome!
i love this guy :p

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:10 AM

He probably is good but perfecting any lick can be good if you practise it properly, it's all about concentration and making sure every note is perfect like Kurrpt is always saying.

[QUOTE=unknownsoldier12]does anyone have an archive of Hatebreeder tab (the album, not just that track)

I was thinking straight up tab, or if you could export a guitar pro tab to adobe acrobat, that would be a God-send[/QUOTE]

What's wrong with just GP tabs?

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:14 AM

oh nothing...

the problem is, when my brother moved in, her put my computer in the basement. I wanted him to put guitar pro and my music onto his machine, but he failed that miserably.

Basically, I have no guitar pro at this time :upset:

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:20 AM

Want me to upload it?

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:21 AM

guitar pro?

I wouldnt have a way to get it home. If i had the internet at home, then yea, it would be easy.

My girl wants to kick my brother out soon. When that goes into effect, ill have my guitar pro back

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:23 AM

Oh right fair enough.

Well when you export tabs as PDF, it only does the track you're viewing, right? I would have thought you'd want both parts and solos for each song.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:24 AM

I would hahaha


i usually learn every track, then combine parts, or make into one guitar track actually. Im just weird like that I suppose haha

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:30 AM

Yeah I do that too. Admittedly, it's usually all the parts Alexi plays but sometimes I have to learn all the parts because I record alot.

Have you checked ultimate-guitar? They've got loads on there.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:34 AM

ill have to do that.

Normally, i have most of the track memorized in my head (ear). When i look at the tabs, I really pick and choose which sections I think sound better alone, ya know (no keyboard player, maybe just a click track, etc)

I really don't know which sections are Alexi's tbh, but i think i could figure them out if I really wanted.

If i still had a way to record, I'd probably learn all the track individually and combine them.

I DID get my Krank fixed, so im motivated to learn some more songs. Ive basically been listening to hatebreeder for the last 2 weeks straight. I bought a gig card for my PSP, and put about 8 CDs on there. Its not quite having my Ipod, but its nice none the less

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:41 AM

If you want Alexi's parts, listen to the cds and he's on the right side.
I think he's left on AYDY though.

Basically, he always plays the solos and most of the verse/chorus leads, except for a few like in Downfall, Mask of Sanity, Hatebreeder, for example.

Live videos always help too if you really wanted to find out.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:42 AM

i know for most of his singing parts, he just chugs right?

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:45 AM

It depends on the song tbh. Kissing the Shadows, he plays all of the leads you hear and sings at the same time, but the main theme in Mask of Sanity was played live by Alexander, I don't know why they mix it up.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:47 AM

I think on the hatebreeder album, he mostly chugs during the verses...


anyway, I don't like just chugging if theres a more demanding part in the mix. Id rather spend the time and play the hard stuff. I find it more enjoyable

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 09:52 AM

Yeah I play the harder parts too, because I'm not doing vocals so you can concentrate more on that. So saying that, you could just learn all the lead parts.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 09:54 AM

I normally learn the lead parts, but i find my rhythm needs the most work. I've been concentrating way too much on lead, and I eventually want to get to the point where complex Nevermore-esque rhythms are a walk in the park.

So yea, i really do learn all the parts

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 10:13 AM

Ah yeah, Nevermore. Their rhythms are definately hard, I'd need to practise some of those first for sure. I'm really happy enough with y lead playing yet to be concentrating properly on rhythm though.

My ultimate goal is to be able to play the stuff on Paul Gilbert's Intense Rock 1.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 10:19 AM

im trying to become more "rounded" at this point...

but yea, i still practice sweeping way too much :lol:

repcak 08-29-2006 10:22 AM

paul gilbert's intense rock I? hm... good?

dou you know if there is a guitar book by Yngwie Malmsteen? I think Alexi should write one :)

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 10:30 AM

Yes, unbelievably good. Some people don't like it but his playing is amazing clean and accurate.

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=AqRvYDkXP2c[/url]

There's quite a few Yngwie books in terms of "lesson" stuff, plus all the tab books for his albums. There IS an Alexi one but it's not a lesson, it's a book with tabs from a few Children of Bodom songs, but they'll all be wrong because it's Japanese. Plus, Alexi has done 2 full Young Guitar videos with tabs.

[QUOTE=unknownsoldier12]im trying to become more "rounded" at this point...

but yea, i still practice sweeping way too much :lol:[/QUOTE]

I don't practise sweeping anymore, I hardly practise at all. I've been going downhill for the last 2 1/2 years.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 10:31 AM

yea, my practice fell out a bit when my amp broke, but now thats its fixed, i find time for it.

Normally i practice about 20 minutes even before work

Squirrel 08-29-2006 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]paul gilbert's intense rock I? hm... good?

dou you know if there is a guitar book by Yngwie Malmsteen? I think Alexi should write one :)[/QUOTE]


Eeeeew, bad idea.

repcak 08-29-2006 10:35 AM

Mitch, do you want to insult me? you post links to videos although you know that i CAN'T see them till friday ... grml :(

why are the japanese versions of his songs wrong? i thought alexi was the one who wrote them?
[QUOTE]
I don't practise sweeping anymore, I hardly practise at all. I've been going downhill for the last 2 1/2 years.[/QUOTE]
you haven't practised sweeping for 2 1/2 yrs, right? how long do you play guitar? 2 1/2yrs ago i was happy when i was able to play Master of Puppets :p


as i see nevermore is good for rhythm... what bands have good rhythm things i can practise? i have to work more on rhythm too, but nevermore is too difficult. some easier bands... any suggestions?

Squirrel 08-29-2006 10:39 AM

What kind of rhythm are you talking about ?

Timing ? Stamina ?

Shadows Within 08-29-2006 10:40 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]as i see nevermore is good for rhythm... what bands have good rhythm things i can practise? i have to work more on rhythm too, but nevermore is too difficult. some easier bands... any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Iced Earth :chug:

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 10:41 AM

my rhythm practice focuses on my technique, or lack there of. It really doesn't matter what types of rhythms I'm playing for me to get a lot of work from it. Speed is not of importance. If you are having timing issues, I just slow it down to 1/4 notes at a reasonable speed and work it out (almost like on paper) Once you have the rudiments down, speeding it up is easy

MRDuCran 08-29-2006 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=repcak]Mitch, do you want to insult me? you post links to videos although you know that i CAN'T see them till friday ... grml :(

why are the japanese versions of his songs wrong? i thought alexi was the one who wrote them?

you haven't practised sweeping for 2 1/2 yrs, right? how long do you play guitar? 2 1/2yrs ago i was happy when i was able to play Master of Puppets :p


as i see nevermore is good for rhythm... what bands have good rhythm things i can practise? i have to work more on rhythm too, but nevermore is too difficult. some easier bands... any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Oops, I totally forgot about your limit thing, sorry. :o

No, Alexi doesn't write out the tabs, the Japanese transcribe them, and they always bugger up the fingerings for it, although the notes are usually close.

I have practised sweeping in the last few months probably, I meant 2 1/2 years ago I used to play 4-9 hours a day, nowadays there's times when I don't even plug it in.

unknownsoldier12 08-29-2006 10:53 AM

yea, i know what you meant DuCran :thumb:

repcak 08-29-2006 11:10 AM

Iced Earth ... to fast.

i meatn mostly timing, gallops, offbeats (8th, 16th), breaks in a rhythm, etc. but maybe slowing down would be the better option.

once i had a period when i was playing the whole day, but it was short. i play for 2-3hours most... recently (the last few days) for 4-6hours, but i never played 9h :eek:
my other problem is/was that i made big breaks... f.e. i haven't played guitar for 4months! i made too often too big breaks without reason... now i take playing guitar serious since 2006.


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