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oary77 12-18-2009 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=Modern Iconoclast;17704346]The girls here wear Uggs and those tights or whatever the **** they are. Though I'm not complaining 'cause I get to see lots of nice asses.[/QUOTE]

Pics or lies...

4yearpro? 12-18-2009 10:41 PM

[IMG]http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x87/jackson07_album/gabagool.jpg[/IMG]

Zed_Leppelin 12-18-2009 10:53 PM

Yes! I missed him so much!

Rock on Gabagool Goose!

Blue_Moon 12-18-2009 10:58 PM

thx someone listened :)

and heres another new one...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVsajaqbo4Q[/url]

simple song

Modern Iconoclast 12-19-2009 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=oary77;17705226]Pics or lies...[/QUOTE]

There could be pics if I hadn't just gone home for Christmas.

Metaljonus 12-19-2009 04:22 PM

lolz [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCJfCP_ISM[/url]

Sad But True 12-20-2009 12:57 PM

Holy [size=2]s[/size]hit Rage are number 1 in the UK!

Giga 12-20-2009 01:53 PM

They're infected... with RAGE!

Kuffuffled 12-20-2009 02:26 PM

ratm? wat?

Sad But True 12-20-2009 02:37 PM

Yep the uk voted Killing in the Name number 1 over xmas in protest to the manufactured pop crap.

overturned 12-20-2009 03:20 PM

It is actually ironic the whole rage against the machine number 1 thing? Isn't it?

Zed_Leppelin 12-20-2009 03:35 PM

http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping/goods/goods_detail.php?category_id=1&sub_category_id=13&brand=101&view=1&count=12&sort=1&search_status=1&id=146655

hoshiit

jaklyons 12-20-2009 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=overturned;17708257]It is actually ironic the whole rage against the machine number 1 thing? Isn't it?[/QUOTE]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the irony.

fingers mccoy 12-20-2009 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=overturned;17708257]It is actually ironic the whole rage against the machine number 1 thing? Isn't it?[/QUOTE]

yeah it's kinda the point

Kuffuffled 12-20-2009 06:29 PM

lod how do I make an audio file louder, my recordings are quiet

mnemonic 12-20-2009 06:51 PM

compression and limiting.

but warning, its really easy to make recordings sound really bad with compressors. best to read up on how compressors work, and experiment alot, you'll get the hang of it.

this was helpful to me when i was like what is compressor

[url]http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/recording-studio/221-know-lots-about-compression.html[/url]

Kuffuffled 12-20-2009 09:20 PM

killing dynamics isn't much of a problem if you use it a lot and know what you're doing?

Giga 12-21-2009 12:10 AM

is passenger the only deftones song in drop c

Crapdragoon 12-21-2009 01:06 AM

tenaKEY NIKKA

Blue_Moon 12-21-2009 01:38 AM

i got home at 7am this mornin i dont feel well

lost my scarf and its minus 5

mnemonic 12-21-2009 02:04 AM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;17709064]killing dynamics isn't much of a problem if you use it a lot and know what you're doing?[/QUOTE]

dynamics are overrated, it seems half the people that go on and on about 'clean pure mixes' without any master compression can't mix worth **** and just use that as their excuse to suck at mixing properly.

sure you can overdo it, you can overdo anything. saying any use of compression is too much is like saying distortion ruins guitar tones and it would sound better if everyone played clean.



unless thats not what you were saying, in which case disregard that

Kuffuffled 12-21-2009 02:27 AM

lol I'm no purist, those people can go f themselves

Blue_Moon 12-21-2009 02:41 AM

im so comfy

TriggerNYC 12-21-2009 04:25 AM

[QUOTE=viciouscycle;17708679]lod how do I make an audio file louder, my recordings are quiet[/QUOTE]

raise the volume on all tracks. download a "masterin program" and have it do it for you.

compression and heavy od is good for metal heads. peolpe like my need their dynamics. i hate compressors bc it ****s my **** up.

Sad But True 12-21-2009 06:07 AM

[QUOTE=overturned;17708257]It is actually ironic the whole rage against the machine number 1 thing? Isn't it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the irony.[/QUOTE]

Ugh, I'm so sick of explaining this. Here's the top three "you're not as a smart as you think" responses.

1. No, it's not ironic. We are not 'doing what we are told'. We made the choice to follow this campaign that we could quite easily have ignored, and the difference between this campaign and the X-Factor one is that people would've bought the X-Factor single regardless of what is was or who was singing it; people bought the rage single because they chose to.

2. No they are not on the same record label. Sony owns SyCo and Epic, Simon's and Rage's label respectively. Simon Cowell receives NOTHING from the sale of Rage singles.

3. It is not malicious or aimed at Joe directly, it's aimed at the X-Factor. Simon and Cheryl 'Painfully Thick' Cole are being morons when they say "oh poor Joe look what they've done to him" what, made some competition? why should he be gifted it without a fight? The X-Factor winner gets 6 months of multi-million pound publicity which gets rammed down people's throats twice a week, and they're getting pissy when someone actually tries to compete with that?

OrangeLightning 12-21-2009 08:35 AM

devin townsend is nice

also... was anyone else aware that theres a chris broderick signature model? it looks pretty shweet

[url]http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/shopping/goods/goods_detail.php?category_id=1&sub_category_id=13&brand=101&view=1&count=12&sort=1&search_status=1&id=146655[/url]


did not realize zedleps post was for the same guitar... thought it was just for the site

nvm

fingers mccoy 12-21-2009 08:46 AM

[QUOTE=Sad But True;17709856]Ugh, I'm so sick of explaining this. Here's the top three "you're not as a smart as you think" responses.

1. No, it's not ironic. We are not 'doing what we are told'. We made the choice to follow this campaign that we could quite easily have ignored, and the difference between this campaign and the X-Factor one is that people would've bought the X-Factor single regardless of what is was or who was singing it; people bought the rage single because they chose to.

2. No they are not on the same record label. Sony owns SyCo and Epic, Simon's and Rage's label respectively. Simon Cowell receives NOTHING from the sale of Rage singles.

3. It is not malicious or aimed at Joe directly, it's aimed at the X-Factor. Simon and Cheryl 'Painfully Thick' Cole are being morons when they say "oh poor Joe look what they've done to him" what, made some competition? why should he be gifted it without a fight? The X-Factor winner gets 6 months of multi-million pound publicity which gets rammed down people's throats twice a week, and they're getting pissy when someone actually tries to compete with that?[/QUOTE]

because this is arbitrary artificial and meaningless and the rage against the machine song is only as relevant as its competition even if you ignore the fact that it's twenty years old

it was a good charity stunt it won't actually do anything to the x-factor

i like that ratm are getting into the spirit of things but if they think it has a political message oh dear god how asinine can rock musicians be

also in regards to point 1, you can talk about how it's a personal choice all you like but that doesn't change the fact that the people who buy the single are only doing it to participate in something new as the result of good publicity which [I]is[/I] exactly the same process as the one enabling the success of the x factor finalists

the irony is inescapable but that's part of what makes this stunt interesting

The_Mop 12-21-2009 09:17 AM

I pretty much just think it's funny to see RATM at number 1 for christmas. I can't be arsed thinking into it any deeper than that :P

Sad But True 12-21-2009 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;17709960]because this is arbitrary artificial and meaningless and the rage against the machine song is only as relevant as its competition even if you ignore the fact that it's twenty years old

it was a good charity stunt it won't actually do anything to the x-factor

i like that ratm are getting into the spirit of things but if they think it has a political message oh dear god how asinine can rock musicians be

also in regards to point 1, you can talk about how it's a personal choice all you like but that doesn't change the fact that the people who buy the single are only doing it to participate in something new as the result of good publicity which [I]is[/I] exactly the same process as the one enabling the success of the x factor finalists

the irony is inescapable but that's part of what makes this stunt interesting[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but no, that's way off the mark.

"people who buy the single are only doing it to participate in something new as the result of good publicity"
How can you possibly say why 900,000+ people joined the group? And the vast majority of the members joined from seeing their friends joining it on Facebook.

There were 600,000 members before it even hit a tv, radio, or anything that wasn't entirely based on the internet. There are a multitude of reasons for taking part, nearly all of which are more relevant than what you're saying. I for one saw someone join it and thought "now that'd be a good idea, I'm going to support this because I'm sick of the X-Factor and the crap it produces".

There was absolutely no publicity that wasn't given by people by their free will; anyone in the media who supported it (and for that matter didn't support it) made that choice for themselves. It was a completely free choice.

The intentions behind the X-Factor's marketing campaign is to get you to buy their song by creating a TV program and playing it twice a week and treating as an entertainment show to get people to watch. Then they get people to vote for their favourite so that they know which will sell the most records, and then release it a week before xmas to make the most profit from the UK's strange obsession with xmas number 1s. Their entire organisation is based on making people want to buy their song.

The rage group had none of that; it was just an idea that people agreed with and supported.

jaklyons 12-21-2009 11:23 AM

tbh who cares

Sad But True 12-21-2009 12:28 PM

I don't know why it bothers me, but when people totally miss the point of it, it gets on my tits.

overturned 12-21-2009 01:22 PM

Wow. Just wow.

Aes820 12-21-2009 02:57 PM

RATM took the "**** you I won't do what you tell me" bit out of the radio edit version of their song because their record company told them to.

Giga 12-21-2009 04:29 PM

[quote=giga;17709512]is passenger the only deftones song in drop c[/quote]

123

mnemonic 12-21-2009 04:50 PM

i dno

fingers mccoy 12-21-2009 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=Sad But True;17710066]I'm sorry but no, that's way off the mark.

"people who buy the single are only doing it to participate in something new as the result of good publicity"
How can you possibly say why 900,000+ people joined the group? And the vast majority of the members joined from seeing their friends joining it on Facebook.

There were 600,000 members before it even hit a tv, radio, or anything that wasn't entirely based on the internet. There are a multitude of reasons for taking part, nearly all of which are more relevant than what you're saying. I for one saw someone join it and thought "now that'd be a good idea, I'm going to support this because I'm sick of the X-Factor and the crap it produces".

There was absolutely no publicity that wasn't given by people by their free will; anyone in the media who supported it (and for that matter didn't support it) made that choice for themselves. It was a completely free choice.

The intentions behind the X-Factor's marketing campaign is to get you to buy their song by creating a TV program and playing it twice a week and treating as an entertainment show to get people to watch. Then they get people to vote for their favourite so that they know which will sell the most records, and then release it a week before xmas to make the most profit from the UK's strange obsession with xmas number 1s. Their entire organisation is based on making people want to buy their song.

The rage group had none of that; it was just an idea that people agreed with and supported.[/QUOTE]

look

it has no actual effect on the sales of the x-factor single it just determines which place it gets in the chart it does nothing to the existing x-factor demographic

the only thing that this stunt expresses is a culturally divisive perspective widely held by the middle class

the only reason that this did well is because of good publicity - there was the serafinowicz endorsement coupled with the use of facebook and a pseudopolitical message, as well as the television coverage, which all led to the astronomical sales figures. It's not a new song, and it's one that has already been incredibly commercially successful. The long-tail nature of the downloads market made it incredibly easy for its existing fanbase to purchase the track, which was done with the express purpose of participating in the stunt, as was publicised. If this had been a rerelease, then you would have a point.

do not try to say that there is any reason for this affair outside of its coverage in the press. it can achieve nothing else, apart from the charity proceeds. It is a social phenomenon. Just like the x-factor.

benfan 12-21-2009 05:38 PM

No need to argue. I think its cool that it won. Alot of people took a stand against the X-factor crap and i think thats a good thing. Fair enough it wouldnt of happened without facebook or the media tagging onto it but its still pretty cool nontheless.

fingers mccoy 12-22-2009 06:30 AM

it's cool i just found out it got rage to schedule a bunch of concerts for next year so good on the fans, they got something out of it

i just find the idea of 'taking a stand' against the x factor a bit silly

benfan 12-22-2009 08:01 AM

For me it wasnt really about that, i just think its nice to see some cool rock music get to number 1, after alot of the radio stations where saying it was ****. I also like the idea of all the years hard work bands put into getting big, paying off, as opposed to a couple of months of singing covers in front of a tv camera to people who have nothing better to do than watch a reality tv show.

JoshIsNumber3 12-22-2009 12:25 PM

Almost a million people bleating like sheep.


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