[QUOTE=OnceTheyWereHeros]Im a total metalhead i guess :p but i do like other styles of guitar based music that has a good riff or lyrics to it...because i dont want to limit my music to only metal! Tool i think is the type of band that will grow on me but its just im not really into them just yet but other people i know and some of my friends are :wave: but mainly i listen to Pantera, Sabbath, Hendrix, Iced Earth etc. and 'new' bands i like are CoB, Dream Theater, Dragonforce Black Label Society![/QUOTE]


Try some Opeth. They have some awesome guitar riffs/runs. Morningrise and Black Water Park would be two great ones to start off with.

Will do. Cheers!

I heard about Opeth from this thread, so I went rushing out to buy an album. I bought dam[COLOR=White]n[/COLOR]ation. now i wished I had taken some album advice too.

Blackwater Park or Still Life? From a tool fan perspective, which is a better starter?

BWP, best album for starters, and IMO, best album of theirs overall.

Righto. They were the two albums that get thrown around a lot in these forums

/gets wallet

I prefer Morningrise, but they're both great. ****ation wasn't..that..bad.. it was just an experiment-type cd.

Yeah, but not the greatest intro CD to get, especially after what i was told to expect from them

Undestandable, like I said, Morninrise is probably my favorite album by them anyways. To Bid you Farwell is a semi-acoustic song on that cd that is better than anything on d[COLOR=White]am[/COLOR]nation

I still have no Opeth albums :upset:

/will change a couple of days after I move :D

Where you moving to Gmac?


OT: What's everyone's prediction on the poll?

Tool are going to win but not by far I reckon.

[QUOTE=Otherside]Where you moving to Gmac?


OT: What's everyone's prediction on the poll?[/QUOTE]

1) Tool will win, the word fan boy will appear in every other post, and people will complain and neg rep everywhere.

2) Pink Floyd will win, and no one will complain. The word fan boy will still be used in every other post, such as "Im glad that those tool fanboys lost"

3) Metallica will win, and the forum will have to declare a state of Martial law for the inevitable rioting

I'm moving from a small, remote Australian town when bands such as Opeth, Dream Theater, In Flames and most other stuff I find I like on these forums is unavailable. I'll be moving to Brisbane on Monday, so that should be pretty good.

And on the poll, I'm hoping Lateralus will make it to Number 1, although I wouldn't be disappointed if Floyd took it out. Predicting DSOTM as number 1.

I don't really mind who wins because I love all the albums on there

wow G_Mac - you'll only be 700kms from me!

I'm hoping Lateralus wins the poll - but something tells me Floyd will....

^^ Just to give my actual hopes on the poll, although I want Lateralus to win, any would do, with metallica being the least deserving though

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]1) Tool will win, the word fan boy will appear in every other post, and people will complain and neg rep everywhere.

2) Pink Floyd will win, and no one will complain. The word fan boy will still be used in every other post, such as "Im glad that those tool fanboys lost"

3) Metallica will win, and the forum will have to declare a state of Martial law for the inevitable rioting[/QUOTE]

:eek: This man see's the future. Do we have another Nostradamus on our hands?

They are probably true aswell :eek:

Just a bump/reminder for all Tool people on here to cas thier votes for Lateralus..
[url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300228[/url]

Lateralus is my all time favorite album, but I can't decide if it's a better actual album than The Wall.

i think it is.

I prefer Aenima over Lateralus, but DSOTM, besides Us and Them/Breathe, doesn't do much for me.

Lateralus > DSOTM >= The Wall > Metallica

[QUOTE=G_Mac07]Lateralus > DSOTM >= The Wall > Metallica[/QUOTE]

I'd agree with that, although there is no way Metallica should be up there at all. If there was any justice, one of the two Floyd albums would get replaced with something else and Metallica replaced with something.

Yeah I was pissed about the number of n00b votes that got Metallica over Opeth in the last poll. I didn't check for the number of n00b votes Tool gets though, I'm guessing we must also get quite a few.

G_mac and Kage - I agree whole heartedly.

Lateralus is definitely the best album of modern times, and I think Pink Floyd are about the only band that can come close in all of history.
I think Tool are the Floyd of the new generation - with progressive style, deep meanings and great music.
That said, I think Lateralus actually overtook Pink Floyd in terms of musicality and the craft with which the tracks are assembled and interrelated.

...And Justice for All isn't a bad album, but honestly cannot hope to compare to DSOTM or Lateralus in terms of sheer depth and beautifully crafted sound.

Lateralus all the ****in way man. The went from playing amazing music to the most musically artistic band i've ever heard.(if that made sense, im tired)

Lateralus is a thinking man's/lady's album. I'm not much of a thinking man in the big picture, so in the end I'd rather Aenima in the end. Sure, the last 30 seconds in the Grudge are probably the best 30 seconds ever, but for me there is no experience that comes close to listening to Aenima full bore. I very rarely listen to Aenima all the way though.

When I think about it; Lateralus is the best album, Aenima has the best songs.

A little fact; Adam Jones played some guitar on a Melvins record. Mmm must have NOW.

adam jones does a lot with the melvins, in fact i just saw him play with the melvins at the new years eve show in seattle. mostly dead kennedy covers, i was very disappointed.

i heard about that too, i didnt kno if it was true.

Hey guys. I've been following a few copies of Salival on ebay for a few days, and they've just started to raise in price (at the last minute :rolleyes: ) What price do you guys think would be too high to pay for it?

Anyone know what equipment is being used by the band on the new album?

I'd like to see what Justin can do with a 5 or 6 string bass, personally. As he's the chording type who isn't afraid to go into mid range or above it seems like a natural extension for him, and what with a lot of songs being played in real low tunings and the like, the low B would be useful. More fretless work would be nice too.

I hear Adam tried out a 7 string once, but didn't like the feel of it? I love the guitars he uses now personally. So I wouln't really want him to change at all. Really great tone and texture.

How about Danny? Any new cool drums or effects or anything anyone's heard about?

I'm not expecting anyone's heard anything, i'm just hoping.

I think it's a little too early to tell at the moment.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Anyone know what equipment is being used by the band on the new album?

I'd like to see what Justin can do with a 5 or 6 string bass, personally. As he's the chording type who isn't afraid to go into mid range or above it seems like a natural extension for him, and what with a lot of songs being played in real low tunings and the like, the low B would be useful. More fretless work would be nice too.

I hear Adam tried out a 7 string once, but didn't like the feel of it? I love the guitars he uses now personally. So I wouln't really want him to change at all. Really great tone and texture.

How about Danny? Any new cool drums or effects or anything anyone's heard about?

I'm not expecting anyone's heard anything, i'm just hoping.[/QUOTE]


Mums the word for the new album, we know next to nothing atm.

Hey, this may have been discussed before, but has anyone else noticed the Hemiola that Maynard plays during one of the verses of Schism? I remember Danny Carey talking about in one of his online demonstrations, but hadn't caught it until the last time I was listening to Lateralus recently. It's the part where he says "I've DONE the MATH eNOUGH to KNOW the DANGERS OF our SECOND GUESSING..." The song is in 5/8 7/8, but Maynard sings a dotted quarter pulse (more of a triple feel, like 6/8...). Very cool. :)

Adam Jones has the most amazing freakin' guitar sound ever! He would definitely not need to change it. His guitar lives and breathes, much more 3 dimensional than any other guitar sound I have heard.

Adam should stick to a dropped D 6 string IMO he uses those D barré chords so well.
Justin's bass is only prominent to me when he goes into the upper ranges, as long as he has a catchy riff he can go as high as he pleases.
I don't think danny's drumming will ever get old so he doesn't need to change, but it has been said his stuff will be more polyrhythm oriented like Meshuggah. Is it just me or does some of the meshuggah drums seem a bit mechanical and boring, I only have I but around 5mins a snare kicks in and i can no longer listen to the song because of the repeated snare, it's all i can hear :confused:

I was expecting this album in spring, but it now seems like its gonna be like Autum :(

[QUOTE=clearvision] Is it just me or does some of the meshuggah drums seem a bit mechanical and boring, I only have I but around 5mins a snare kicks in and i can no longer listen to the song because of the repeated snare, it's all i can hear :confused:
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That seems to be a major complaint about them, but from a technical standpoint, the drumming is amazing, and near physically impossible. I like Meshuggah alot, but yes I can only listen to them for a certain amount of time.

I have tried and tried to get into the song, but all i hear is the snare. Maybe it's just the mixing on 'I' but i can only manage to listen to that part for about 20 secs.

I really hope Adam sticks to the same tunings/guitar. Doesn't he have that unique Les Paul Silverburst that gives him his weird tone? I think using deeper tunings would take away from the feel of his playing, which has remained consistent on every album. Of course, there's always Parabola with the B/E tuning, but I can't see a full album of that.