I wonder if Tim knows some livejournal blog just "outed him". He is, of course, not gay at all. But that's what happens when people take things Rody says seriously.

Just listened to the new album for the first time, its pretty sweet but Kezia is still better

[QUOTE=James46n2;16375535]They're probably be pretty stoked to be playing with Unearth.

Check out this Protest Stalker site.. if for some reason you want to see a lot of pictures of them as kids:
[url]http://protestthat.livejournal.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

That's funny. It reminds me of my friend's local band around here who had young girl fans who would have pictures of the band's girlfriends on their myspace. Creepy!

[QUOTE=chris2$mile;16377373]Just listened to the new album for the first time, its pretty sweet but Kezia is still better[/QUOTE]

Little late... But better than never.

[QUOTE=Siberian Dreamer;16364007]Missed them every time they've come over to the UK, but they've just been announced as part of the Never Say Die tour:

PARKWAY DRIVE - [url]www.myspace.com/parkwaydrive[/url] - (Epitaph)
UNEARTH- [url]www.myspace.com/unearth[/url] - (Metal Blade Records)
DESPISED ICON- [url]www.myspace.com/despisedicon[/url]
ARCHITECTS- [url]www.myspace.com/architectsuk[/url] - (Century Media)
PROTEST THE HERO - [url]www.myspace.com/protestthehero[/url]
WHITECHAPEL - [url]www.myspace.com/whitechapelmetal[/url] - (Metal Blade Records)
CARNIFEX - [url]www.myspace.com/carnifex[/url] - (Victory Records)

Parkway Drive are fail but pretty big over here. I will be enjoying PTH, Despised Icon and Unearth, though.[/QUOTE]

that's actually a really really good lineup.
i met mike portnoy yesterday and i was wearing my fortress shirt, and he told me he loved them.

Could have done without Despised Icon though.

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;16377994]Could have done without Despised Icon though.[/QUOTE]

yeah, they are definitely the weakest band on there imo. While they are pretty good, they overdo the pigsqueals big time.

Just a tad... Everything else would be pretty awesome to see. Mainly PTH though.

Protest the Hero is mediocre at best...extremely over-hyped

[QUOTE=masterchaos;16378056]Protest the Hero is mediocre at best...extremely over-hyped[/QUOTE]

I severely disagree

[QUOTE=masterchaos;16378056]I am so wrong it's not even funny[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know. :thumb:

wow

you're an extremely unclever fag

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;16378005]yeah, they are definitely the weakest band on there imo. While they are pretty good, they overdo the pigsqueals big time.[/QUOTE]

what? they are weaker than carnifex, whitechapel and parkway drive? three bands who spend 96% of their time trying to sound exactly like despised icon? how does that add up?

[QUOTE=masterchaos;16378056]Protest the Hero is mediocre at best...extremely over-hyped[/QUOTE]

I only partially agree. Their instrumentation is over-hyped. I understand their guitarists like shred-type riffs, but nothing really stands out for me with them. They do "catchy" well. Their drummer is no Richard Cristie, but he's not bad. Their bassist stands out pretty well.

Their vocalist however, has a great voice. I don't feel like hes trying to fit into any niche with his vocal approach, Its like he just goes out there and sings how he feels. I don't like his emo screams, but I just ignore them and don't take them seriously.

They do have good moments, but overall they don't do anything incredibly unique. I hear Bloodmeat all the time and meh, I read articles and interviews with them and they seem very arrogant like they're leading some sort of revolution in metal...but I will agree their very talented, just over-hyped.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16365377]Haha, I totally told Tim to call Architects a few months ago when they were trying to figure out who to tour the UK with.[/QUOTE]

yus !

good call mate

and in all fairness Parkway Drive try to sound like a good metalcore band and fail miserably.

[QUOTE=masterchaos;16379075]They do have good moments, but overall they don't do anything incredibly unique. I hear Bloodmeat all the time and meh, I read articles and interviews with them and they seem very arrogant like they're leading some sort of revolution in metal...but I will agree their very talented, just over-hyped.[/QUOTE]
I hate that. I read an article and they seemed okay, could you send a link?

What I read was a section in Revolver a month or two ago.

[QUOTE=masterchaos;16378056]Protest the Hero is mediocre at best...extremely over-hyped[/QUOTE]

fail.

[QUOTE][I]They do have good moments, but overall they don't do anything incredibly unique. [/I]I hear Bloodmeat all the time and meh
[/QUOTE]

What other bands sound like them again? Kezia featured a hardcore mentality with metal guitarists and power metal/clean sung vocals. Fortress is all over the place...almost a metal version of Mars Volta or something.

Then again if you make judgments based on Bloodmeat, I understand. I love the song, but it's not their strongest.

Or are they just [I]fairly[/I] unique instead of [I]incredibly[/I] :p

[QUOTE=interviewer02;16378429]I only partially agree. Their instrumentation is over-hyped. I understand their guitarists like shred-type riffs, but nothing really stands out for me with them. They do "catchy" well. Their drummer is no Richard Cristie, but he's not bad. Their bassist stands out pretty well.[/quote]

I find it odd that your judgment of how good a band in depends on the individual musicians rather than the sum of their parts.

They're talented musicians (nothing special, but talented) who [I]write[/I] very good music.

Good music is 90% writing and 10% musicianship. Or at least the ratio tends that way.

[quote] I don't like his emo screams, but I just ignore them and don't take them seriously.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know the only song the singer screams in is like the fourth one of Kezia. The bassist does the high screaming and stereotypical metal-head looking one does the low screaming, I think. His voice is one to protect, although I don't know how good he sounds live.

[QUOTE]and in all fairness Parkway Drive try to sound like a good metalcore band and fail miserably.[/QUOTE]

Parkway Drive is only bad if you think about what you're listening to. As far as stupid, breakdown-centered, crappy metal'core', they're one of the best. Much better than As I Lay Dying and most other bands of their ilk.

Oh, and the live show is fun :D

I don't want to dwell on this blog which is pretty obviously horsecrap but I couldn't resist posting this:

[url]http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v159/1/102/28103774/n28103774_39476619_2871.jpg[/url]

You can clearly see the mischief in young Rody's eyes. Possible foreshadowing to the birth of "The Choad" later in life?

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace;16379822]

Then again if you make judgments based on Bloodmeat, I understand. I love the song, but it's not their strongest.

Or are they just [I]fairly[/I] unique instead of [I]incredibly[/I] :p



I find it odd that your judgment of how good a band in depends on the individual musicians rather than the sum of their parts.

They're talented musicians (nothing special, but talented) who [I]write[/I] very good music.

Good music is 90% writing and 10% musicianship. Or at least the ratio tends that way.



As far as I know the only song the singer screams in is like the fourth one of Kezia. The bassist does the high screaming and stereotypical metal-head looking one does the low screaming, I think. His voice is one to protect, although I don't know how good he sounds live.

[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter who does the scream, the fact of the matter is, is that I dislike the scream, I think it sounds stupid, liking a whiny 5 year old that didn't get what he wanted at the grocery store.

As far as writing goes, yeah, they have talent, but I think they're overhyped. Mainly because many of the songs sound a lot alike, and grow tiresome after awhile.

On an individual instrument level, yeah, everyone can play their stuff well, but nobody save the bassist really stands out and separates themselves from the rest of the scene, and when their styles merge there still is that "I've heard this kind of music before, this isn't anything groundbreaking" feel, except when the bassist decides to take the forefront, and even when that happens, it never blows my mind.

opinions opinions wah wah whoo blah whoo blah

shut the **** up you bloody tool.

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;16377979]Little late... But better than never.[/QUOTE]

Lol sorry mate this things take time to filter through to eng-er-land

lyrics are interesting. vocals doesn't do it justice thats for sure

[QUOTE=interviewer02;16380007]It doesn't matter who does the scream, the fact of the matter is, is that I dislike the scream, I think it sounds stupid, liking a whiny 5 year old that didn't get what he wanted at the grocery store.[/quote]

I was just saying I don't think it's him, I wasn't trying to refute your point or anything.

[QUOTE]Mainly because many of the songs sound a lot alike, and grow tiresome after awhile.
[/QUOTE]

Most band's songs will sound the same when your knowledge of them is cursory and minimal. It's unlikely that an album will be full of songs of a vastly different styles. If you grow tired of it, I guess that's fair.

[quote]"I've heard this kind of music before, this isn't anything groundbreaking" feel, except when the bassist decides to take the forefront, and even when that happens, it never blows my mind.[/QUOTE]

I have no desire for a groundbreaking feel, but if you do that's cool. And again the writing is far more important than individual talent or standing out technically.

I'd still like to hear all those bands that are like Protest, though. Just so I have something new to listen to.

[QUOTE=chris2$mile;16381250]Lol sorry mate this things take time to filter through to eng-er-land[/QUOTE]

It's ok. I'll forgive you this time.

[QUOTE]I was just saying I don't think it's him, I wasn't trying to refute your point or anything.[/QUOTE]
On Kezia, the shouts are Tim, the low shouts are Arif and Rody screams once or twice. On Fortress, all the singing, screaming and growling is Rody; Arif growls on "Wretch" very briefly, otherwise it's pretty much all him. This doesn't include harmonies, of course.

And it's hard to sing Arif's lyrics, trust me. Give Rody a lot more credit than you're giving him. He's basically given lyrics he didn't write and he has to create coherent vocal arrangements atop music he didnt have the hugest hand in composing.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;16381639]And it's hard to sing Arif's lyrics, trust me. Give Rody a lot more credit than you're giving him. He's basically given lyrics he didn't write and he has to create coherent vocal arrangements atop music he didnt have the hugest hand in composing.[/QUOTE]

Yeah arranging that stuff is probably quite a chore.