Headliners suck ***.

how about pearl wild 500?

[QUOTE=punk_drummer101]how about pearl wild 500?[/QUOTE]

Pearl make cymbals about as well as Microsoft would make a spanner.

In otherwords, hell no.

I'm guessing your looking for a starter set, go with some Sabian B8's or Paiste PST3's, depending on where you live the Paistes might be more expensive.

[QUOTE]Pearl make cymbals about as well as Microsoft would make a spanner.
[/QUOTE]Whats a spanner.[QUOTE]go with some Sabian B8's or Paiste PST3's[/QUOTE]PST5's are betterm, but I do not know how much more they are, hmmm.

[QUOTE=Murd_666]Whats a spanner.[/QUOTE]

I presume you meant "What's a spanner?"

/grammar nazi

Anyway, I believe you yanks (I assume you're American), call it a "wrench".

^ If saying that to me, No I am not american, I am canadian, LONG LIVE CANADA!

[QUOTE=Murd_666]^ If saying that to me, No I am not american, I am canadian, LONG LIVE CANADA![/QUOTE]

Darnit, I should have looked at the "Location" thing. They're new to me. Sorry for the mistake. But you know what I'm on about now, yes?

it now allows us to think before we make asses of ourselves ;)

Does it, it hasn't helped me a lot:D

im after a large, dark sounding crash, that's about 20" and a pair of hi-hats that are quite Barker-esque

Hats: A mastersounds, also look into A New Beats and Paragons, don't limit your self to what barkers stuff sounds like.
Crash: HHX Stage Crashes are Nice, HHX PLosion there just lovely, AAX Dark I don't remeber what the larger models are like but some of the smaller ones are great, look in to the K and K customs lines from Zildjian too.

Ride: Medium/short wash, not overly bright and maybe a bit of sizzle (if such things exist in a ride), but with a strong, bright bell. A few recomendations would be best, and cost isn't really an issue.

[QUOTE=blacksorrows]im after a large, dark sounding crash, that's about 20" and a pair of hi-hats that are quite Barker-esque[/QUOTE]He uses 14" A Mastersounds I think. Same hats I use, they are fantastic. If you want a 20" crash I would recommend an A Thin or Medium Thin. The diameter on them and weight means they won't be too bright, but will be bright enough. You won't find a K or K Custom that's 20" in the crash department, and personally, I don't see why you would ever want a 20" K Custom crash. Ks on the other hand... those are amazing.

[QUOTE=Murd_666]Hats: A mastersounds, also look into A New Beats and Paragons, don't limit your self to what barkers stuff sounds like.
Crash: HHX Stage Crashes are Nice, HHX PLosion there just lovely, AAX Dark I don't remeber what the larger models are like but some of the smaller ones are great, look in to the K and K customs lines from Zildjian too.[/QUOTE]

You wont find a 20" K crash. If you want to go K I'd sugest either a K Crash/ride, or some form of ride. K dark Rides have a pretty sweet crash to them, they are only thin I think.


edit: should of read playwithfire's post...

^umm, I didn't say anything about 20" I just impled the larger models^

Yeah but he asked for a 20" model, I just kind of assumed lol.

Quick question here, I am not looking for a cymbal just advice on one (Didnt really wanna start a new thread). In my local shop they're selling a 20" K Custom Dry Ride for £225 ... is that a reasonable price? Or could I get it a lot cheaper? ...

Cheers

Looking for advice on next cymbal purchase.

Currently have 14" K/Z Special Dynamo Beat Hi Hats.
18" A Medium Thin.
16" K somthing (brought it 2nd hand so i don't quite know what it is)
21" A Sweet Ride.

I play mainly rock stuff like Foo Fighters, Velvet Revolver, Feeder.

I'm looking to get 2 new cymbals and get rid of my K as i don't like the dark sounding cymbals. I want to add i love my A Medium thin.

Was woundering if anyone had any suggestions, Was thinking of maybe a 17" A Custom Projection and a 16" A Custom Fast Crash, was also considering a, A Paper thin of some sort. Price isn't an issue.

Cheers for the help.

[QUOTE=punk_drummer101]meinl headliners are these any good?[/QUOTE]

NO!!!! Headliner cymbals are just crappy!!! i have a crash and a hi-hat and they sound like a catfight.

is there anyone that know if Sabian Paragorns are any good?

[QUOTE=Collis]Quick question here, I am not looking for a cymbal just advice on one (Didnt really wanna start a new thread). In my local shop they're selling a 20" K Custom Dry Ride for £225 ... is that a reasonable price? Or could I get it a lot cheaper? ...

Cheers[/QUOTE]

You could find cheaper. Try ebay.

[QUOTE=Locke]Looking for advice on next cymbal purchase.

Currently have 14" K/Z Special Dynamo Beat Hi Hats.
18" A Medium Thin.
16" K somthing (brought it 2nd hand so i don't quite know what it is)
21" A Sweet Ride.

I play mainly rock stuff like Foo Fighters, Velvet Revolver, Feeder.

I'm looking to get 2 new cymbals and get rid of my K as i don't like the dark sounding cymbals. I want to add i love my A Medium thin.

Was woundering if anyone had any suggestions, Was thinking of maybe a 17" A Custom Projection and a 16" A Custom Fast Crash, was also considering a, A Paper thin of some sort. Price isn't an issue.

Cheers for the help.[/QUOTE]

The two you mentioned would be fine, but if you play rock music I would lean away from a Fast Crash as they are for a quick accent. Up to you, that's jut my opinion. Maybe try a 19" A custom?
Great choices :)

[QUOTE=amham]is there anyone that know if Sabian Paragorns are any good?[/QUOTE]

Yes. They are.

[QUOTE=Collis]Quick question here, I am not looking for a cymbal just advice on one (Didnt really wanna start a new thread). In my local shop they're selling a 20" K Custom Dry Ride for £225 ... is that a reasonable price? Or could I get it a lot cheaper? ...

Cheers[/QUOTE]I can get that same price in CND... so to have that price in pounds... that's ridiculously expensive.

UK is way more expensive. But still, it's too much.

[QUOTE=spirit]I presume you meant "What's a spanner?"

/grammar nazi

Anyway, I believe you yanks (I assume you're American), call it a "wrench".[/QUOTE]
Actually, that would be /punctuation nazi.

/correction nazi

I've been at it for about 9 months now and want upgrade my ride from B8 Pro's. I like playing rock and metal but I won't be going pro or anything. I listened to the 20" A Zildjian Earth ride on the Zildjian site and it sounded pretty good. Does anyone here recommend this ?? I'm looking for very quick decay and solid bell.

It doesn't have that quick of a decay. If you want a quick decay you'll want a lighter weight ride usually. Earth rides are extra heavy. Personally I'm not a fan of Earth rides at all.

What do you guys think of K custom. I did a search and nothing came up.

What K Custom? The line in general? I think they are good, but not for me at all. Very dry and jazzy.

yeah, just the line in general. I hear that they are great, but expensive. I'm going to get some this christmas, but I always like opinions from people who've used them.