[QUOTE=jensmatty]Im p!ssed, I can play several tool songs (drums), slowly learning more, but I dont know any bassists or guitarists who like/are good enough to play Tool, and hell if I'll know any vocalists, let alone any who can sing like maynard. Dont know anyone who are heavily into any of the prog. rock scene. Plus I need a double kick ^-^ it's next on my list...[/QUOTE]
I have that same problem, just with guitarists. I have a friend who can play just about any Tool on drums, and I can play all the bass, but I don't know a single person who knows anything on guitar. :angry:

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Grey Incision
i'm glad somebody else mentioned reflection, i thought i was the only person who liked it[/QUOTE]

Reflection is one of my favorite songs :thumb:

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by G_Mac07
Reflection is an amazing song, probably one of my favourites. However, it is not generally a song that is good to introduce people to Tool with. Most people won't instantly fall in love with Reflection, they usually will though after they have been listening to Tool on a regular basis for a while.[/QUOTE]

True. Now that you mention it, Reflection shouldn't be recommended as an introdutory song to get someone into listening to Tool , but it shouldn't be forgotten.

to tell you the truth, i think introductory songs are the worst for them, if i had to split hairs. Thats just how my taste is. I rarely listen to a released single of theirs

[QUOTE=CrapBassist19]I have that same problem, just with guitarists. I have a friend who can play just about any Tool on drums, and I can play all the bass, but I don't know a single person who knows anything on guitar. :angry:[/QUOTE]


where you live, TOOL guitar is like all i played for months

Yeah. The Drummer in my band can play some Tool songs, and I know just about every song off all their albums on the guitar, so we sometimes play a few Tool songs. But our Bassist can't play ANY Tool songs at all, and as someone else said, I'm not quite sure anyone could measure up to how good Maynard sings.

[QUOTE=CrapBassist19]I have that same problem, just with guitarists. I have a friend who can play just about any Tool on drums, and I can play all the bass, but I don't know a single person who knows anything on guitar. :angry:[/QUOTE]

i can play almost all of tool's songs on guitar. what i don't know i just havent tried to learn yet. if your a washington stater i would be more than happy to jam.

I think the tool fan base in my age group is lacking in australia. I dont know anyone who's enough of a fan, and a musician, to learn their songs. I wanna move to america...

I see alot of talk about people playing Tool stuff on drums. I have been playing drums for 20 years, I can play several Tool songs, not all of them, about 10. I dont count it as being able to play a Tool song unless you can play it note for note.

I have seen several drummers boast about being able to play Tool stuff on drums. When I watched them play it they were not even close. Being able to sustain some form of a beat and play some of the fills does not constitute being able to play one of Careys pieces. Most of the songs have multiple odd groupings with complex polyrhythms. Its just not easy to duplicate.

Carey doesn't sit down with the band and pound out these tracks. He writes them note for note. The majority of his time signatures change measure to measure and alot of his time signatures are extremely complex, like 12/8 and 13/8.

The more difficult songs I can play is 46 and 2, Aenema, Schism, Parabola, and Reflection (Im working on this song now). 46 and 2 for example, it changes so much that you basically have to memorize it. I had cheat sheets all over my electronic pads reminding me of signatures.

Thats the other part of it, the electronics. Again, using 46 and 2 as an example. The beginning of the song is played with 2 dominate patterns carrying the rhythm as individual polys, all electronic. You are playing another time signature with your left foot, and you have a kick, tom4, ride ping, tom5, kick on every 4. The solo is incredible. The initial double stroke roll down the toms has to fit inside of the bass line and has to end (I forget what note the bass ends on) at the exact time the bass ends his riff. At the end of the solo you have an 9 and a half count double kick, press roll on 2 seperate toms with a snare hit on 1. You have to time this perfect and only do 9 and a half or the vocals cannot come in and the song collapses in on itself.

Anyway, I love it that Carey inspires so many people to push themselves to new limits. Some easier Tool songs to play is Sober, Hush, Stinkfist, and H.

Tell me about it. Carey's freakishly good (Times... some number we dont have a word for), I know the stuff Im playing is nowhere near what Carey plays, but im slowly developing... slowly.

Don't develop bad habits when playing his stuff. Listen to it really close. Study it. Listen to several different recordings. I have seen him play live, I have multiple live DVD's and dissect it all. I look at tabs (most of them are wrong) and basically anything I can find on it. When I put together a Carey song I will not play it out live until I feel I am playing it close to 100% correct. Once I accomplish this I have a great feeling of satisfaction.

I am lucky with my band. I am surrounded by outstanding talent. My guitarist, bassist and singer all are professionals. While my vocalists does sound similiar to Maynard, its not Maynard. This is the only part of the equation we falter in. My vocalist is still unreal. I use in-ear monitors and hear everything crystal clear. When he sings Aenema there are certain parts that send chills up my spine.

There are just so many suttle things in this music, its inspiring. For example, I know nothing about guitar. My guitarist has modified a wah pedal to the exact specs of Adams wah pedal. There is ONE spot in Aenema where this is used and he uses it.

I commend you as a drummer Jensmatty for taking Careys work serious and making an effort to learn it.

Where you from Jensmatty, im in aus :wave:

SK, i have got to hear your band mate, you guys sound quite professional in your approach to music. It would certainly be a something i could learn from as well. I am a guitarist, so Adam jones isn't really my idol when it comes to playing. (that is where Opeth/dream theater comes in) Still, it would be a good change to not only hear what you've said here, but listen to it in practice and see how that discipline has helped your playing.

in short.......post an audio file :p

[QUOTE]I commend you as a drummer Jensmatty for taking Careys work serious and making an effort to learn it.[/QUOTE]
Thankyou :). Do you know anywhere I can get other recordings of their songs? and post us some audio of your bands, With an approach like yours, Im sure your music is mind blowing
[QUOTE]Where you from Jensmatty, im in aus [/QUOTE]
Sydney.

jensmatty, i'm in sydney, and a big tool fan, and i play guitar, we have to start a band, now, or at least jam some time

im 15, you?

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nah, i just want sort of a Tool cover band, you know, or something similar, it would be awesome to finally cover some of Tool's music. anyway, back to topic

How does Danny have that mind to create such drum lines and make it fit the song, the man is a plain genius

Danny and Justin write the basics of the song I believe. I THINK the writing goes like this. Carey writes drum tracks, gives them to Justin. Justin builds bass tracks around them and inside of them. Adam then adds his flair and punctuates where it is needed. Maynard adds the melody to the song. Once this is complete I believe they THEN begin to actually work on a song. I read this on Toolband once.

A good Tool coverband is [url]www.soberband.com[/url]

You can check out my bands site at [url]www.stagefrightband.com[/url]

We don't have audio up YET but it is coming. I have all the specs on my Carey inspired drum set. You can read through our guest book and see what some of the people who have attended our shows think of the Tool stuff we play, its kinda cool if I say so myself.

Cheers SFK, can't wait for the audio.

From just listening to the songs you can tell that the bass and drums are written first. On some songs however i think the gutiar is written after the voice...or it is just changed afterwards. 'Cause you can hear when adam is complimenting maynard rather than making a base for him to work on...

I'm guessing the same technique was used on Opiate with Paul D'Amour, most of the songs on there seem pretty prominant in the bass area.

Hey guys...I have a question :eek:

The Salival version of you lied....who is the second guitarist?

I think the version is live? And tooltabs.net says there is 2 guitars. Who accompanied adam :confused: Was it Maynard? Or do we just not know, I checked tool FAQ and found nothing....

King Buzzo of the Melvins. Adam plays with them a lot, so he returned the favour during a few live shows

:eek: that was quick... Thanks

In tool related news...... I am uploading Lateralus to my new Creative Zen Touch MP3 player....


Ps. AJiG take a look at my reply to your Black Mages review kthxbai

buzzo and adam are playing tonite in seattle, i'm hella stooked. if you haven't watched adam play yet, be prepare yourself for the show of your life. he doesn't even need to show boat like hairbands. he stands still, knods to the beat and still gives off an energy that would make a grown man cry.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]Danny and Justin write the basics of the song I believe. I THINK the writing goes like this. Carey writes drum tracks, gives them to Justin. Justin builds bass tracks around them and inside of them. Adam then adds his flair and punctuates where it is needed. Maynard adds the melody to the song. Once this is complete I believe they THEN begin to actually work on a song. I read this on Toolband once.

A good Tool coverband is [url]www.soberband.com[/url]

You can check out my bands site at [url]www.stagefrightband.com[/url]

We don't have audio up YET but it is coming. I have all the specs on my Carey inspired drum set. You can read through our guest book and see what some of the people who have attended our shows think of the Tool stuff we play, its kinda cool if I say so myself.[/QUOTE]


i think i downloaded one of your guys's songs on kazaa one time because i remember it saying "stagefright" but i dont know, just thought id tell you :)

I think DC said in an interview that only a few songs started off with drums on that album, that there was more justin and adam writing parts then him adding drums in that album. Was he bsing? lol

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but I was just wondering if I could get some info on their new album. I remember Danny saying something about it a long time ago, about how it was going to be more heavy and intense, and something about it being released in spring of 2005? I donno, just what I heard. If you can help clear this up, please do.

Go to toolband.com, it has an article on the main page, they're still in the writing process.

[QUOTE=flyguy]I'm sure this has been covered somewhere in this thread, but I was just wondering if I could get some info on their new album. I remember Danny saying something about it a long time ago, about how it was going to be more heavy and intense, and something about it being released in spring of 2005? I donno, just what I heard. If you can help clear this up, please do.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, what you said is pretty much all anyone knows at this point.

As jennsmatty said go to Tool's official page and read Blair's entry for december 14th and you'll have an eyewitness (or is that earwitness...) account of some of the new material. It seems clear they will be following the path they've been taking toward increasingly complex material.