If they didn't "sell out", I think they would just be denying themselves of bigger and better things. And honestly who wants to see 40 year olds head banging to old school thrash?

I'd just say "Okay." and then walk off, but that's cause id rather chop my arms off than exchange more than 2 sentences with any person in my school

[QUOTE=guitarist.kid]At my school, people are telling me that Metallica is S hit. I know they are gods so people tell me things like that: " I'll make a top 100 list of bands that are better than Metallica". I hate that so do you have advice to reply do these insults to the greatest thrash metal band ever?[/QUOTE]
Just ignore them or say STFU or ask "ok how many instruments can your favorite artist play"...they say like none you say"HA james hetfield can play every instrument in his band your favorite group doesnt even have instruments how is it music" then proceed to KICK THEIR A[B]S[/B] [I]S[/I]!!! :thumb:

yeah it pisses me off when these kids are like "Dude, Blink-182 is like totally rad" and they talk sh[I]i[/I]t about good bands that actually have talent.

It's their opinion, so i try to not care, but i do get a little bit irritated.

[QUOTE=guitarist.kid]At my school, people are telling me that Metallica is S hit. I know they are gods so people tell me things like that: " I'll make a top 100 list of bands that are better than Metallica". I hate that so do you have advice to reply do these insults to the greatest thrash metal band ever?[/QUOTE]

You just tell them hey they are among the biggest selling artists of all time, I mean although they did sell a lot more of their bad albums than their masterpieces but that's just cause they had to take a different road to get more money. I mean look at artists like Michael Jackson and Britney Spears they've sold a countless number of albums so they must be good. :lol:
Face it man they lost the title of greatest thrash metal band ever when they went radio friendly and started kissin up to mtv. There are many many talented bands that are really underrated and just because some band sells the most records doesn't mean there's the best. Expand your musical mind. I'm not trying to be an ******* and I still think that Kill 'em all - ...And justice for all are among the greats. This is all my opinion and I'm am not trying to be an *******. Sorry if I sound like one.
Wow sorry for making somebody read this. Just something I was pondering about. Seriously just krank up Kill 'em all in front of them and tell 'em Metal up your ****in ***.
Anyways what do you think is the greatest bassist Metallica ever had?

Ron Mcgovney (yeah right)
Cliff Burton (**** yeah) I think Metallica lost a big part of their attitude when they lost him and lost a huge part of their musical genius. RIP Cliff
Jason Newstead (pretty good, since he managed to step in and do a pretty decent job filling the shoes of such a master as Cliff Burton)
Rob Trujillo (a very good and solid bassist)

In order of best to worst:
1. Cliff Burton (**** yeah, amazing bassist my favorite bassist of all time. RIP)
2. Rob Trujillo (Nice unique style)
3. Jason Newsted (He was ok. Ugliest person I've ever seen though :lol: )
4. Ron McGovney ( :confused: )

[QUOTE=RustedPieces]In order of best to worst:
1. Cliff Burton (**** yeah, amazing bassist my favorite bassist of all time. RIP)
2. Rob Trujillo (Nice unique style)
3. Jason Newsted (He was ok. Ugliest person I've ever seen though :lol: )
4. Ron McGovney ( :confused: )[/QUOTE]


That's exactly my list,

Has anyone heard Flotsam & Jetsam?

In case you don't know who ron mcgovney is, he is their bassist before Cliff, when they saw cliff they kicked him out, i heard he wasn't even that good anyway.

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]That's exactly my list,

Has anyone heard Flotsam & Jetsam?

In case you don't know who ron mcgovney is, he is their bassist before Cliff, when they saw cliff they kicked him out, i heard he wasn't even that good anyway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I knew who he was. And no i've never heard Flotsam and Jetsam. Any good?

[QUOTE=RustedPieces]Yeah I knew who he was. And no i've never heard Flotsam and Jetsam. Any good?[/QUOTE]


It's the band that Jason was in before he joined metallica,It's supposed to be bass fueled thrash metal, I've never heard it so i dont know if that is true, so has anyone ever heard them and are they any good?

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]That's exactly my list,

Has anyone heard Flotsam & Jetsam?

In case you don't know who ron mcgovney is, he is their bassist before Cliff, when they saw cliff they kicked him out, i heard he wasn't even that good anyway.[/QUOTE]

Yeah he especially lacked the attitude and got kicked out cos Dave didn't like him. One time Dave spilled beer in his pickup when he was away and then when he plugged the bass in it just kaboom :lol: . He got thrown against the wall but was alright. Dave once said that when he was in the band it was like 3 men and a baby(mcgovney).

If Lars was not in Metallica, Metallica would not exist, it is as simple as that.

NOW.

1) Robzilla
2) Cliff
3) Jason
4) Ron

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cliff was thier best bassist imo and rob is right behind him

Best, I think Rob... Favourite... Cliff! As a person, not just a bassist.

Cliff is the best, easily imo.
I haven't heard anything by Rob except for his Jungle solo where he starts Orion about mid-way, that's some fast fingers he's got, so it's promising. I can't wait to hear metallica with bass again :o
Imagine Metallica's fast riffs with a speed-funk bass, that, in my opinion, would be amazing.

Edit: Where's gocaps? :confused:
He hasn't been around for a while, and he owes me a Battery review :lol:

Edit 2:

[QUOTE=lilmetallica]Yay it feels soo good to be back!!!!!!! What happened to the reviews dude you were all like yea reviews yea real reviews i think you did 3 (wayyyyy better than mine on FTB though) and that was it so far......[/QUOTE]
The idea wasn't for ME to do the reviews, I thought maybe someone could do a review, then suggest a song (Or maybe a few songs) for the next person to review.

Feel free to review any song, I'd say maybe something from Load/ReLoad if you could, I'm sure there are good songs on those albums :)

I hate these list things. Anyway, you can't say technically which Bassist was better, cause they are all very talented. Jason perhaps didn't join Metallica at the right time to flaunt his skills, cause he really is amazing. Cliff wasn't AMAZING as everyone says he was, but he was very productive with his bass. Rob is a great bassist...if you listen to the stuff he did previous to Metallica, it's easy to see why they recruited him.

So, basically I suppose it's all down to personal preferance. Most people seen to pick Cliff cause he was on Metallica best album, which is fair enough.

No, I pick Cliff because of his obvious talent, though to be honest, Rob is better. I respect Jason an awful lot, I think he was a *very* good player, but I think he wasn't as good for the band as Cliff (whether that was his fault or the band's remains a mystery though). Cliff may not be as good as say Victor Wooten, but hey, you see videos of him, and the control he has of his bass, the noises he could make, what he could do without thinking or looking, just going wild with his hair, and generally actually enjoying himself. Sure, Jason did that, but its nowhere near as apparent as Cliff. As I said before, Cliff as a person seals the deal for me. If ever I had an idol, or a role model (which for the most part I hate), it'd be him. Minus the drinking and pot maybe :lol:

Rob on the other hand has a very good history of music, he's had 20 more years of bass playing than Cliff had, and he has already been cited by Hetfield as being better than Newsted at creating lines, and at knowing what he is playing without being told. I also think he has very fast fingers, and a good ear for melody. Jason was far more rhythmic, while Rob has a good groove and melody. I expect great things from him. If only he didn't slap with distortion. That kills it...

Anyway, that's fro my point of view as a bass player. You may disagree :)

I understand that. I always say that Cliff is a lost Lead Guitarist. The amount of Distortion that he applied to his sound, he may aswell have been one.

I don't think it was just his use of distortion the made Cliff great, it was also that he refused to play just chord roots, instead he would be all over the fretboard, and he knew how to use bass wah REALLY well.

That's what I mean. He didn't like to follow root notes. There's a lot of examples of it. That's why I don't think he should have been a Bass player. He seems more suited to a lead role.

So using roots = bass? Nah, don't think so.

And if you think he doesn't use roots, then listen again. He doesn't entirely in Sanitarium, Orion, Seek and Destroy and a couple of others, but he does in most every other song he played with them.

To me, he wasn't a lead player, he was an example of just another way the bass could be played. Especially at the time, he was a unique player. He still has a unique sound, even today.

[QUOTE=fatbandit]So using roots = bass? Nah, don't think so.

And if you think he doesn't use roots, then listen again. He doesn't entirely in Sanitarium, Orion, Seek and Destroy and a couple of others, but he does in most every other song he played with them.

To me, he wasn't a lead player, he was an example of just another way the bass could be played. Especially at the time, he was a unique player. He still has a unique sound, even today.[/QUOTE]

In most genres, most of the time, yes. It's not often where a Bassist actually contributes a lot to the writing process of a song. I'm aware of his tendencies to not stick to the norm. It's fair enough that you think he was an inventive bass player, I think that too, but I still think he would have been more suited as a Lead Guitarist. It's perhaps the fact that he had that tendency, that he created a unique style on Bass.

I agree that roots are often what the bass plays, hell, I should know! :lol:

However, I think its unfair to say 'you don't play roots, we're not letting you do bass' (bit more extreme than what you were trying to say, I know...). Dirk lance in Incubus played mostly interesting basslines, not roots. To say that he would have been best suited to a different instrument would be silly. Its the input that you get from different types of people that evolves the instrument. A drummer, for example, may add a more rhyhmic feel, while a guitarist is more melodic perhaps.

Cliff also had a classical background. I doubt sincerely he only played shred bass.

hey can anyone hook me up with master of puppets. Im on a weird little thing where i wanna learn a bunch of metallica solos, and i dont have the track

Sure. Add me on msn [email]dark____nation@hotmail.com[/email] (4 underscores) and you can have it. YSI smells.

[QUOTE=fatbandit]Sure. Add me on msn [email]dark____nation@hotmail.com[/email] (4 underscores) and you can have it. YSI smells.[/QUOTE]


i dont have MSN, and my server wont allow me to install it (at work)

is there ANY way you could use yousendit or soundclick...?

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i dont have MSN, and my server wont allow me to install it (at work)

is there ANY way you could use yousendit or soundclick...?[/QUOTE]

If you can wait a bit, I can do it for you.

dude im stuck in this hell hole till 5.....but i would so happy with you

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]dude im stuck in this hell hole till 5.....but i would so happy with you[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Tell me about it mate. I was working the phones 'til 4pm. I'll try upload it as soon as possible, but I only have a 256k connection. It'll be here soon enough.

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]It's the band that Jason was in before he joined metallica,It's supposed to be bass fueled thrash metal, I've never heard it so i dont know if that is true, so has anyone ever heard them and are they any good?[/QUOTE]

Flotsam are pretty good thrash

Ron was treated very unfairly in Metallica, i've read what he has to say