:lol: This guy is great.

If I get banned it certainly won't be for legitimate rules violations. This isn't worth wasting any more of my time on. I'll let you get back to your circle-jerk hate-a-thon now.

lol what is this kids problem haha

[QUOTE=TzarChasm;17908782]If I get banned it certainly won't be for legitimate rules violations.[/QUOTE]

Spamming is legitimate.

Regardless, going through and building my metalcore section back up (had to reformat my laptop couldn't back up anything in time) so I'm listening to coalesce for the first time in ages.

[QUOTE=TzarChasm;17908782]If I get banned it certainly won't be for legitimate rules violations. This isn't worth wasting any more of my time on. I'll let you get back to your circle-jerk hate-a-thon now.[/QUOTE]

Rule number 1: no fags.

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;17908790]Rule number 1: no fags.[/QUOTE]

ahahah mappy

yes and guess what, your a fag!

[QUOTE=TzarChasm;17908755]Case in point, children. Case in point. Go back to your safe little worlds full of confirmation bias (look that one up) and blind-faith, dogmatic atheism. Sorry for disrupting your enlightening conversation with my intolerance and bigotry. I'm such an emo retard...[/QUOTE]

Blind faith and dogmatic atheism = hand in hand? What?

Stop whining.

The Ghost Inside's new song is pretty kickass. Just got into these guys.

Ya it's p dece.

Both new songs are pretty good.

[QUOTE=TzarChasm;17908715]The last three or four pages of this thread are [I]sooooooooooo edgy[/I]! I, too, prefer to classify people according to the lowest common denominators in their culture/worldview/religion, and thus claim superiority. This is most satisfying when I don't actually don't know what they believe, since I've spent too long hating them blindly to care.

(At the very least, I prefer to remain ignorant of the [i]context[/i] for their beliefs; that way I can avoid the high ground of having to debate things like textual criticism, anthropological or archaeological evidence, historical accuracy and other empirical studies. If it can't fit on a tee-shirt or a black metal album cover, it's clearly bad theology!)

Logical fallacies rulez, d00d! LOL! I'm gonna go stereotype some more and spit vitriol all over the Internet in the most inappropriate places just to show how stupid other people are for cramming their imbecilic views down my throat! We should throw them all to lions, revoke their civil rights and mock them publicly. Stupid, controlling idiots... Always looking down on others and living differently from me. Loser hypocrites!

</SARCASMSARCASMSARCASMSARCASMSARCASM>[/QUOTE]

i doubt you'd write all that to be sarcastic

i also take it you're a christian

cool story bro

[QUOTE=TzarChasm;17908773]Thanks for asking, sweetheart, but no. See, here's how the Internet [i]really[/i] works: you hate me, and for no valid reason. You spend a few days with other people who feel the exact same way, and together you spit on me and millions of others whom you actually don't know dick about when push comes to shove. You mock us in self-righteous fervor and feel special because your view is uncontested.

Then someone with an IQ over 63 comes along and posts a rebuttal, or at least offers to square up and debate rationally, should you actually think you have some valid justification for your bias. You don't, so you tell them to shut up, whereupon every other troll in the thread jumps in, picking a fight. I'll probably eventually be banned for defending myself, even though I never attacked anyone personally, nor said one word which could be misconstrued as religious antagonism.

You'll all sit around long after I'm gone and talk about how right you were, and how Satan banned me for being stupid. I honestly won't care much, either way. We'll both know that it had little to do with religion, intolerance or opinion. You just hated having to constantly tab over to www.dictionary.com to figure out what my big, fifth-grade words meant.



And yet somehow this can't possibly work in [i]both[/i] directions, could it? >_> I'm advocating a legitimate stance here, sure, but I'm certainly not getting angry or bent out of shape. Rather, I'm enjoying myself.[/QUOTE]

nothing of what you said has been challenging, convincing or interesting

but most of all, it hasn't been relevant since [I]no one is debating you[/I]

I love when new posters assume that nobody on these forums is educated past fifth grade.

[QUOTE=Scoot;17908862]I love when new posters assume that nobody on these forums is educated past fifth grade.[/QUOTE]

also, i don't see where he saw anyone initiating conversation with him =/ i mean why be all dramatic and "satan will ban me" when youre the only one in a fight

It seems as if he was trying to prove his own intelligence...when nobody in particular was questioning it in the first place.

[QUOTE=Scoot;17908881]It seems as if he was trying to prove his own intelligence...when nobody in particular was questioning it in the first place.[/QUOTE]

and that in itself kinda makes me questioning it

i mean, [I]he's [/I]the one who brought up tabbing over to dictionary.com [i]while using big words[/i]

hmmmmmm...?

Just trying to show he's a cool guy eh uses dictionary.com and doesn't afraid of anything

i use rhymezone and haez nitelite :upset:

Dickshunairee.

[QUOTE=Pete;17908911]i use rhymezone and haez nitelite :upset:[/QUOTE]

awh, thats cute petter!!!

if anyone's the petter, you're the petter mappy

<3<3<3<3

petter file moar like

well uh

[i]that[/i] got out of hand. rather unsurprisingly.

Mr. TzarChasm if you're still reading (though you said you were done) and you'd like to have a discussion along similar lines without making the category mistake of ascribing the incendiary position of a few trolls to the entire rest of the forum, I'd be glad to oblige you. Although I am now inclined to believe you'd sooner let it lie having said your piece about how childish and stupid we all are, without needing to address anyone in particular. Of course you claimed we'd have no response to someone who 'posts a rebuttal, or at least offers to square up and debate rationally;' I saw neither of these things in any of your recent posts, which all seemed to be designed to antagonize atheists who are self-assured in their atheism. This, while surely a righteous enough cause in of itself, is neither of the two things which you (ostensibly) claimed to have done.

I must admit though, your eloquence and lexicon continue to perplex me; such words as 'vitriolic' were indeed demonstrative of such a degree of erudition that I needed to tab over to dictionary.com a total of seven times just to get the definition in my tiny atheist head.



anyway LOLOLPETTERFILE

[QUOTE=TzarChasm;17908715]The last three or four pages of this thread are [I]sooooooooooo edgy[/I]! I, too, prefer to classify people according to the lowest common denominators in their culture/worldview/religion, and thus claim superiority. This is most satisfying when I don't actually don't know what they believe, since I've spent too long hating them blindly to care.

(At the very least, I prefer to remain ignorant of the [i]context[/i] for their beliefs; that way I can avoid the high ground of having to debate things like textual criticism, anthropological or archaeological evidence, historical accuracy and other empirical studies. If it can't fit on a tee-shirt or a black metal album cover, it's clearly bad theology!)

Logical fallacies rulez, d00d! LOL! I'm gonna go stereotype some more and spit vitriol all over the Internet in the most inappropriate places just to show how stupid other people are for cramming their imbecilic views down my throat! We should throw them all to lions, revoke their civil rights and mock them publicly. Stupid, controlling idiots... Always looking down on others and living differently from me. Loser hypocrites!

</SARCASMSARCASMSARCASMSARCASMSARCASM>[/QUOTE]

csb, faggot

what the hell was with that retard?

So I need to get back into (or find new) metalcore bands/albums, any suggestions?

Poison The Well- The Opposite Of December

[QUOTE=The Feeding;17909984]Poison The Well- The Opposite Of December[/QUOTE]

Shall check it, thanks!

the first 3 PTW records are amazing

Architects, Shai Hulud, Dillinger Escape Plan, Every Time I Die, and Oathbreaker are all awesome

A Dark Orbit and When Knives Go Skyward are two of the most underrated bands in the metalcore genre.

[QUOTE=shortz;17909956]So I need to get back into (or find new) metalcore bands/albums, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

I consider these essential metalcore:
Converge - [I]Jane Doe[/I]
Botch - [I]American Nervoso[/I]
Knut - [I]Challenger[/I]
Skycamefalling - [I]10.21[/I]
The Dillinger Escape Plan - [I]Calculating Infinity[/I]
Kiss It Goodbye - [I]She Loves Me, She Loves Me Not[/I]
Deadguy - [I]I Know Your Tragedy[/I]
Burst - [I]Conquest: Writhe[/I]
Prayer For Cleansing - [I]The Rain In Endless Fall[/I]
Rifles At Recess - [I]To Whisper In Tongues[/I]
Undying - [I]At History's End[/I] (last three are very melodic death metal-y and basically the prototype for the melodic side of deathcore)
Embrace The End - [I]Counting Hallways To The Left[/I] (same vein as the last three but with a lot of hardcore vocals)
Rosesdead - [I]Stages[/I]
Between The Buried And Me - [I]The Silent Circus[/I]
Drowning Man - [I]Don't Touch Us When We're Hot[/I]
Coalesce - [I]Last Call For The Living[/I]
Burnt By The Sun - [I]Soundtrack To The Personal Revolution[/I]
Watchmaker - [I]Erased From The Memory Of Man[/I]
Indecision - [I]Unorthodox[/I]
As The Sun Sets - [I]Each Individual Voice Is Dead In Silence [/I](kind of in between grind and metalcore)
Shai Hulud - [I]Hopes Once Nourished With Hope And Compassion[/I]
7 Angels 7 Plagues - [I]Jhazmyne's Lullaby[/I]
The Secret - [I]Luce[/I]
Norma Jean - [I]Bless The Martyr & Kiss The Child[/I]
Misery Signals - [I]Of Malice And The Magnum Heart[/I]
The Acacia Strain - [i]3750[/i]
Taken - [I]Finding Solace In Dissension[/I]
Underoath - [I]The Changing Of Times[/I]
Posion The Well - [I]The Opposite Of December[/I]
Every Time I Die - [I]Hot Damn![/I]
A Life Once Lost - [I]Open Your Mouth For The Speechless, In Case Of Those Appointed To die[/I]

excellent list.

Shai Hulud is meh but besides that awesome list

[QUOTE]I love when new posters assume that nobody on these forums is educated past fifth grade.[/QUOTE]

wuts a confirmation bias o wait how am i even spelling things right now o man this is crazy

Shai Hulud ****ing rules.

list needs Misery Signals but other than that its damn good.

Ya, adding Of Malice And The Magnum Heart and 3750.

Mappy missed a lot of elite bands:

Unbroken - Life. Love. Regret. and It's Getting Tougher to Say the Right Things
Disembodied - Diablerie, If Only God Knew the Rest Were Dead and Existence in Suicide
Racetraitor - Burn the Idol of the White Messiah
Rorschach - Autopsy
Gather - Total Liberation
Chokehold - Content With Dying
The Swarm - Parasitic Skies and Old Blue Eyes is Dead
Left for Dead - Splitting Heads
7 Generations - To See the End and their demo
Bloodlet - Eclectic
Harvest - Living With a God Complex and Transitions
Integrity - Those Who Fear Tomorrow and Humanity is the Devil
Ringworm - The Promise
Systral - Black Smoker
Tears of Gaia - Burial

My list, taking out some of the Mappy crap and mislabeled bands (Rifs at Recess, ATSS0), along with some of Retireds bands. Added only a few cause you both named all the good bands. I disagree with some of the albums pick but fuc k it, this is the beta master metalcore list.

Converge - [I]Jane Doe[/I]
Botch - [I]American Nervoso[/I]
Knut - [I]Challenger[/I]
Skycamefalling - [I]10.21[/I]
The Dillinger Escape Plan - [I]Calculating Infinity[/I]
Kiss It Goodbye - [I]She Loves Me, She Loves Me Not[/I]
Deadguy - [I]Fixation On A Co-Worker[/I]
Undying - [I]At History's End[/I]
Rosesdead - [I]Stages[/I]
Drowning Man - [I]Don't Touch Us When We're Hot[/I]
Coalesce - [I]Last Call For The Living[/I]
Burnt By The Sun - [I]Soundtrack To The Personal Revolution[/I]
Watchmaker - [I]Erased From The Memory Of Man[/I]
Indecision - [I]Unorthodox[/I]
Shai Hulud - [I]Hopes Once Nourished With Hope And Compassion[/I]
7 Angels 7 Plagues - [I]Jhazmyne's Lullaby[/I]
The Secret - [I]Luce[/I]
Norma Jean - [I]O'God The Aftermath[/I]
Misery Signals - [I]Of Malice And The Magnum Heart[/I]
Taken - [I]Finding Solace In Dissension[/I]
Underoath - [I]The Changing Of Times[/I]
Posion The Well - [I]The Opposite Of December[/I]
Every Time I Die - [I]Hot Damn![/I]
Unbroken - [I]Life. Love. Regret.[/I]
Disembodied - [I]Diablerie, If Only God Knew the Rest Were Dead and Existence in Suicide[/I]
Racetraitor - [I]Burn the Idol of the White Messiah[/I]
Chokehold - [I]Content With Dying[/I]
Integrity – [I]Humanity is the Devil[/I]
Systral - [I]Black Smoker[/I]
Tears of Gaia – [I]Burial[/I]
The Chariot - [I]Everything Is Alive, Everything Is Breathing, Nothing Is Dead, and Nothing Is Bleeding[/I]
Cave In – [I]Until Your Heart Stops[/I]
Fear Before - [I]Art Damage[/I]
The End - [I]Transfer Trachea Reverberations from Point: False Omniscient[/I]
Premonitions of War - [I]Left in Kowloon[/I]
Buried Alive - [I]Last Rites [/I]
Architects - [I]Nightmares[/I]
sikTh - [I]The Trees Are Dead & Dried Out Wait for Something Wild[/I]