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Neurotoxin 09-05-2005 06:59 PM

Thanks man. I'll go and download them.

Dancin' Man 09-05-2005 07:07 PM

dibs.

Dancin' Man 09-05-2005 08:43 PM

Dammit
Sorry. I was gettign a haircut and forgot about this. I'll be back in about 45 minutes. If no one wants it by then, I'll take it back. Revoked for now, but I have the song.

Dancin' Man 09-05-2005 09:35 PM

[B]The Most Serene Republic - Content Was Always My Favourite Colour[/B]
Begins with some soft hissing and such. Could go anywhere from here. A quiet note in the background swells into fuzzy synth percussion and vocals. It's really poppy and not sure if I like it yet. It's lacking some atmosphere The Postal Service has. I like the way the vocal tracks are layered. Everything is really fuzzy and I can't tell if it's intentional.

Weird. Everything just dropped out except for like 3 vocal tracks and clapping. Those stay and keyboards come in. Then that section ends abruptly when acoustic guitar comes strumming in all alone. The vocals and keys and electric guitar joins. Then we get the synth percussion again. This is more progressive than the postal service but also less organized sounding. Everythign just jumps around, like a puzzle that was jammed together. I kind of like that but at the same time, it sounds like it's from a lack of experience.

The layering was the real strongpoint here. They seemed to have done an excellent job creating textures through layering. I might try that sometime.

It was all good but it seemed like it was written by people who can write good parts but not put them together.

5/10

[B]The End - Fetesque[/B] - For fans of DEP xhttp://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0TDL5JK51L7AT32QFS29WXJ7F9
[B][url=http://s1.ultrashare.net/hosting/fs/545d50872bbdd9f8/]Between the Buried and Me - Selkies: The Endless Obsession[/url][/B] Prog metal/metalcore off of new album.
[b][url=http://s2.ultrashare.net/hosting/fs/ece175b19c8fe205/]Botch - Framce[/url][/b] Forefathers of bands like DEP and The End
[b][url=http://s5.ultrashare.net/hosting/fs/8a5136186e634c39/]Psyopus - Death, I...[/url][/b] Jazz/tech metal/core
[B]Gorguts - Nostalgia [/B]- very avant-garde/technical death metal xhttp://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1U9JBL6GZVZPK352DWGF3FQD4J

Bartender 09-06-2005 05:30 AM

Dibs.

Bartender 09-06-2005 06:38 AM

I'm not a great fan of BTBAM. In fact, [i]The Silent Circus[/i] seems to drop lower in my estimation every time I play it.
[b]Between the Buried and Me - Selkies[/b] - 7:23

Starts off with synths. Are they trying to be HORSE now? I like the synths in HORSE's songs, but I'm not sure how to react here.

Pretty soon the guitars join in, emulating the synths alongside them. At first I hated this; the tone of the guitar and the style it's played in all remind me of bits of other BTBAM songs I hate, but then the drums get in on the act and the guitars start switching it up a bit, and we actually have a pretty cool intro.

Some nice double bass here and there, and for a while the intro continues to improve. Then, about 50 seconds in, it goes into a kind of half-hearted version of itself; the tone is uninspiring, and the melody itself becomes more annoying than triumphant. Thankfully it doesn't go on for too long before the guitar spirals higher and out, and the next part of the song begins.

Vocals come in, and thank the Lord they're not using their death metal style. The vocals used are kind of hushed, slightly higher than normal voice pitch, and not bad. The guitar work in the background has some nice flashes.

Ah, but of course. 1:40 in, the death metal vocals start. Let me explain: Between the Buried and Me have the worst harsh vocals I've ever encountered. The word I always come upon in trying to get across why is "forced"; they just sound so unnaturally pushed out, it's awful. I've thought this since my very first encounter with the band, and here the vocals haven't really improved any. The music in the background is alright (though again, I've never been much of a fan of their heavier music, as I think it sounds - again - forced a lot of the time), with some nice variations and flourishes here and there, but I've pretty much written off any section with those vocals.

Was there any reason for that sudden stop around 2:12? :-/

Non-harsh vocals return around 3:00, although now they seem to have some kind of weak electronic effect on them, which isn't much better. An annoying guitar squiggle pops up in the background. The death vocals come back for a couple of lines after them, too.

Ah, piano, acoustic guitar. I think this is the part I've been waiting for. The piano isn't prevalent - just a few notes here and there at the ends of phrases and things - and the acoustic is doing most of the work. The clean vocals aren't bad now (no weak electronica), and now - a little bit later in the song - there's a very nice, relaxed electric solo going on. Heavy riffing comes in again, but it's careful not to show off too much - it lets the continuing solo take centre stage. This is the part of them I like.

And the song just fades out on that. I liked the end section, as you can see, but even that good solo got a bit too Dragonforce-without-the-self-deprecation at the end, and I was annoyed that there was no singing. Still, better than anything else by them, bar Mordecai.

7/10

Songs (remember to change the hxxp to http);

[b]Brainiac - Vincent Come on Down (alt rock)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NUXILWYGYLY83INBDPIZCDKE8

[b]Miocene - Calliope (improv. alt rock/spoken word)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FJJIXLGU9RS31ELWPQ02RDSC9

[b]Bonfire Madigan - 88 Arbitrary Configurations (cello'd indie)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GCWVJN9VEXXG2XXOO37CVA1UW

[b]King Geedorah - Fastlane (hip hop)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TG26LVBC5JFZ1O8NLXV9MW9I7

[b]Beck - O Maria (acousticy Beck)[/b]
hxxp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0M9RFYPHVVBTK0BKQ9LENV088A

[b]Ayreon - Day Thirteen: The Sign (prog metal)[/b]
hxxp://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GMBWCXTC6FHD2X3WFMP6RRYCP

Yeah, I just stole that last one.

3rdplanet 09-06-2005 07:48 AM

Back from college, first day of this new year of hell. :upset:

dibs on the hip-hop

3rdplanet 09-06-2005 08:37 AM

[B][I]Fastlane[/I] - King Geedorah[/B]

The intro makes me think the song is meant to make a transition from the last track to this one with no gap. The stand out sample in the track is a bendy bluesy guitar diddly thing, which loops on its self and begins to sound really un-natural very quickly. The strings sample sounds strange also, I don't like how it meshes with the guitar. The beat sounds really weak, got nothing to it at all, paper-think, doesn't do anything for me.

Ah ha, '3, 2, 1, Go!', this should be goo...oh no, it's the same thing again. It's getting really repetitive now. The guys lyrics and flow aren't very appealing to me. I googl'd and found out this is a MFDoom alias so now I'm not as surprised about not liking it.

This guy seems to agree with me;

[QUOTE=http://www.ukhh.com]One of the problems with the production on the tracks is that a main groove is established in the sequence and on a couple of the early tracks like Fastlane can on occasion get a bit tired towards the end of the track, however tracks where the sample is perfect for looping like Anti-Matter, this is not a failing at all.[/QUOTE]

There isn't much else to say, there is the odd break in the sample and limp delivery, the end part is quite cool/amusing - an old skool radio message thing describing how the 3-headed space alien King Geedorah has appeared, I think with a friend.

Overall I rate it a [b]3/10[/b].

[b]Forced Listening[/b]

[B][I]Get Busy[/I] - Guano Apes[/B] - Alt. Rock

hxxp://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3D8SCJ0VYD1TK2SICOTJ4YQ38N

[B][I]Gym Class Heroes[/I] - Cupid[/B] - Funk/Rap - Rock

hxxp://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QYSYI6BIXSD12LSCJGT6BYYWC

[URL=http://www.purevolume.com/greateskimohoax]Great Eskimo Hoax[/URL] - One of my local bands (from my town), very good band. Do either of the songs but I think you should steer clear of Scouts of America, isn't their best song. They are Post-Rock.

superpeer 09-07-2005 12:46 PM

Dibs.

superpeer 09-07-2005 01:34 PM

Pogues - Fiesta
 
I've heard the Pogues before, but I can't really remember particular songs, but I know they're good, so here we go.
[U]
[B]Pogues - Fiesta[/B][/U]

Starts very relaxed, Jazzy I would say. With a saxophone (I think, it might be a trumpet, I'm not very good at recognising them :p) and bass.

Now the song really gets going, party brass and a dancy mood, I now comprehend the title. It also has that Brasilian 'hey-it's-a-party-time-prrrrraaaah' sound. Ah, the vocals, good vocals, Irish accent for the English and something that sounds like attempted Spanish, or Perhaps Portuguese, which would make more sense, sounding a bit like Floggin' Molly's vocals (or vice versa). Liking this, let's see how the chorus is.

Yep, as I expected, a sing a long pub chorus, it's in English, followed by some more trumpets. Speaking of Flogging Molly, they totally ripped off the Pogues, it seems, both great bands though. Seems to be a tribute to Rio (de Janeiro, I assume), it really does sound like 'CarnaBOAAL' as the Brasilians say it.

Here's that verse again, with a rather odd voice change in this one, amusing though. Yep, it's still good. Chorus, more Prrrrraahs and whistles. The bass is quite excellent, there's even a little bass interlude. It's all very nice. Very uplifting, happy song, good for happy occasions down town, I would say.

9.2/10, very much my style of music. Good stuff.



My songs:

[B]Gorki - Ooit was ik een soldaat [/B] [I](Acoustic Alt rock song, sung in my native language, it's live, but that makes it better)[/I]

hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28107TKU922PA3RCO2GPW3HAM6

[B]Blood for Blood - White Trash Anthem[/B] [I](Melodic Hardcore Punk)[/I]

hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HTKGBQPJ7I612YKHGTCYSF5VG


[B]Nirvana - Dive[/B] [I](From a lesser known album, people might not know it :o)[/I]
hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=152PAIK9ELU6G318TY0RN70XKU


YSI was being a bitch. :mad:

Anything from [URL=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9522105&postcount=4985]this[/URL] post would do as well, I suppose, maybe they'll serve some service after all and not go to waste.

superpeer 09-07-2005 06:20 PM

Do the bump! (again)

DJ Ducksauce 09-07-2005 06:42 PM

Hey, is Forced listening still allowed? I mean, now that the YSI threads have been closed.

munky_magik 09-07-2005 06:43 PM

I'd assume so because it isn't really illegal trade of files.

superpeer 09-07-2005 06:44 PM

Forced listening has been going for years, I'm sure it's alright.

munky_magik 09-07-2005 06:47 PM

Well the only problem I can forsee is the uploading of recommendations using YSI/whatever. It may have to go back to the days of finding the files ourselves.

superpeer 09-07-2005 07:07 PM

Just dibs the dam[I]n[/I] thing, someone :p

niobium 09-07-2005 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=Superpeer][B]Nirvana - Dive[/B] [I]
(From a lesser known album, people might not know it :o)[/I]
hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=152PAIK9ELU6G318TY0RN70XKU [/QUOTE]
Nirvana - Incesticide - 01 - Dive

The lesser known album, indeed, a B-sides stop-gap release from a band more known for the actual LP's. The album is a pretty nice collection of extra material, Aneursym sounds like a big Nirvana single, Sliver was a minor hit. But there's good music to be found in the depths of this release. Onto the song review.

It started off with a neat little bassline, then breaks into a very standard Nirvana riff, even for them. Some might appreciate Grohl's drumming, but in this song, the tinking of the high-hat is unneccesary. The chorus is the high point so far, about a minute in. It's sort of an optimistic riff, the elevating chords make it so. It's neat.

Wash, cycle, rinse, repeat. The verse and chorus are the same as before, so that eats up another minute and a half. The bridge comes... Mr. Novoselic plays the beginning bassline in a higher key, for four measure. Kurt's solo comes in, following Krist's line, for four measures. The chorus appears again, slightly harder drumming. Ends with some pounding and Kurt shouting "Dive in me".

I give it a 4/10. It's nothing special, and I could hear much better Nirvana. This sounds like Nirvana from their Bleach days, and they probably wrote the song when they recorded it.

My songs:

Alice in Chains - Sludge Factory
hxxp://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RRZ33FHY9KTK30VXAAW3AEGT3

Clutch - Spacegrass
hxxp://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21VI32Y6Y23PA19K4YGZD1QUB0

Soul Coughing - Circles
hxxp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0KEK8P4V6ATD2RH6HXP5K34G7

superpeer 09-08-2005 05:32 AM

Dibs.


Revoked.. my speakers died.


God, this sucks.


EDIT: I fixed them. :p


Re-Dibs

superpeer 09-08-2005 11:55 AM

[B]Alice in Chains - Sludge Factory[/B]

Starts with a simple riff and falsetto vocals that go 'ooh' and Staley singing 'Oh yeah'. Then the verse kicks in, typical Alice in Chains verse, dramatic, monotone singing, still over the same riff. "I'm high" jumps out, typical drug influenced AIC song. Now there's something that sounds like a chorus, but it's still over the same riff.

Another verse, and now there's finally a change of riffing, it's a good riff, but I don't think it really fits the singing.

Back the 'ooh ooh' oh yeah' part. I know Alice in Chains are usually repetitive, and it usually works but this is getting a bit tiresome, the same riff and verse again.

Ah, a solo, desperately needed, not a bad solo, seems a bit hassled though, improvised at the spot.

The chorus again, it is a good riff, but I still don't like the singing over it.

Then we have the intro part again, and now that riff is palm muted, and there's a bit of soloing and some weird vocals over it. This song is definitely way too long and doesn't have enough variation to remain interesting.

A long, long outro, the soloing is pretty cool, but the rest of the song has been too long to keep me interested. Waiting for the end now. They're still going.


It finally ends, this was not a very good song, I've heard much better songs by Alice in Chains.

3.5/10


My songs:

[B]Gorki - Ooit was ik een soldaat [/B] [I](Acoustic Alt rock song, sung in my native language, it's live, but that makes it better)[/I]

hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28107TKU922PA3RCO2GPW3HAM6

[B]Blood for Blood - White Trash Anthem[/B] [I](Melodic Hardcore Punk)[/I]

hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HTKGBQPJ7I612YKHGTCYSF5VG


[B]Nirvana - Dive[/B] [I](From a lesser known album, people might not know it :o)[/I]
hxxp://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=152PAIK9ELU6G318TY0RN70XKU


And again. [URL=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9522105&postcount=4985]This[/URL] if the links still work.

superpeer 09-08-2005 05:28 PM

Bumpz.

Follow The Reaper 09-08-2005 05:33 PM

Wait a mod triple posting :shoked:

superpeer 09-08-2005 06:10 PM

Yeah and that post was pure quality.

Bartender 09-08-2005 07:20 PM

Dibs.

Bartender 09-08-2005 07:57 PM

I've heard things about BFB (mostly reviews), but I've never heard them myself.
[b]Blood For Blood - White Trash Anthem[/b] - 3:37

Starts with a simple, but very catchy and effective, riff. Simple drums too. The whole thing speaks of simple, but based on what I know about the band (and the name of the song, etc), I'm not surprised. In fact this is a pretty good start.

Spoken word introduction over the catchiness; he's setting down a mission statement for the song, and leaving us in no doubt of what kind of song it is. It's about the haves versus the have-nots, for anyone interested. He finishes his little speech, and the music settles down into a more familiar chugging rhythm. A few seconds of this, and then, in the poetic words of Blood For Blood, "Let's go!"

From here it goes into a fairly high-quality, but "generic" (in a way), punk song; music chugging along regularly, vocalist singing catchy, rhyming verse (occasionally backed up by gang backing-vocals). It's good. The chorus is focused on the title of the song; "I'll never be your kind of white-" seems the main line, before a burst of fast-paced vocals at the end of each chorus, which reminds me of South Park songs (Kyle's Mom's a Bitch, for example) in which they try to cram as many syllables as possible into a line, whilst still staying in time. That's a compliment, though.

He does like his "let's go!"s.

Two choruses later, the music slows down a bit (for some nice, slower chugging) to allow the vocalist time to berate anyone who might be offended by the song. I like the end statement; "I never had enough money, or enough privilege to be white; I'm white trash, and society better learn to recognise the difference." Not sure if I'd agree with the philosophy, but I quite like the line for some reason. And the song fades out on a continued tone, stretched out.

7/10, I think. It's a good, solid song, but it's not one that'l have me scurrying to buy an album of theirs.

Songs (remember to change the hxxp to http);

[b]Brainiac - Vincent Come on Down (alt rock)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NUXILWYGYLY83INBDPIZCDKE8

[b]Miocene - Calliope (improv. alt rock/spoken word)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FJJIXLGU9RS31ELWPQ02RDSC9

[b]Bonfire Madigan - 88 Arbitrary Configurations (cello'd indie)[/b]
hxxp://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GCWVJN9VEXXG2XXOO37CVA1UW

[b]Beck - O Maria (acousticy Beck)[/b]
hxxp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0M9RFYPHVVBTK0BKQ9LENV088A

[url=http://www.comcen.com.au/~caracarol/Salmonella%20Dub%20-%20Push%20On%20Through.mp3]Salmonella Dub - Push on Through[/url] (dub - seven minutes)

I wonder if any of these still work.

blueyxd 09-08-2005 09:16 PM

mine..
so is that last one... but it's all good

blueyxd 09-08-2005 10:12 PM

[b]Bonfire Madigan - 88 Arbitrary Configurations[/b]

The file didn't quite finish, and I'm not about to do it ALL again for that last 3%.

It starts with a cello playing just some low notes, and a woman singing with a bit of force. Seems quite similar to Dresden Dolls, just without piano. Another string instrument or 2 join in and with some very low key drums. I cant tell what she is singing, except the word "Heaven" every now and then.

The music has stops at the end of a lot of the bars. It sounds a bit thin and gutless with just these strings making the music. It could be played live exactly like this, seems like nothing is added, over dubbed or effected in any way at all. I'm having a bit of trouble liking this.

2 mins in is a nice instrumental section. It's more melodic and flowing now, not so stabby. I'm liking the second half more than the first. There's some more singing, and she has strong mid range on her voice, but it's not a ear-murdering sound like Evanescence.

There is a bit of a musical climax here, I thought this nicely flowing bit would go to the end, but for the last 30+ seconds it goes back to the original stop/start/stab feel. Slows down a bit at the end.. and I can only imagine that it ends perfectly, since I'm being generous and lost those last few seconds due to YSI ****ing up (once again).


Hmm, not bad, not real great either. To say what I feel wouldn't make much sense.. but I feel it was really lacking in dimension, and somehow, whatever that is, let the song down for me. The music was ok, it just needed to take up lots more space. 6.5/10

_______________
[b]Salmonella Dub - Push On Through[/b]

^the (my) link is the last one in Bartender's post just above
ps. I don't mind you using my links so dotn worry

Bartender 09-09-2005 06:26 AM

Thanks. Sorry for not asking beforehand. I thought I'd better include something new in case all of mine were dead, and I didn't really have time to upload something.

munky_magik 09-09-2005 04:00 PM

/Claims 'Dibs'

munky_magik 09-09-2005 05:24 PM

Salmonella Dub - Push on Through
 
The song opens with a Tenor, I think, sax line with delay on it. Shortly joined by Sort of Afrian Tribal percussion. The sax drops out and is shortly replaced by a heavy bass line with occasional interruptions by a guitar. I guess the whole thing has a kind of reggaeish feel to it.

About one minute in the sax re-enters and is accompanied by some proper drums. This is extremely chilled out and cool. I like it :cool:
The Sax drops out and the drum line gets a bit heavier and more technical which injects a bt of pace into the song. The guitar coes back in, although this time it is far more prominent. A choir, sort of - ...well a collection of voices. I can call it what I like, thank you very much - is layered over the top.

After a rather extended intro, 2:20, the proper vocals come in. They're mostly what I expect; quite fast paced with the right sort of accent. I could try and pick out some lyrics, but it would most likely take me several years :upset: What we have here are short sections of vocals spaced out with instrumental sections. Good track so far.

We head back to the choir section of times gone past, before branching off in a new direction. Which, to be truthful, isn't all that new as it is more tribal percussion. I keep on expecting to hear elephants in the background. There really should be elephants.To the songs credit there are some monkey noises. There are also guitar and bass parts randomly distributed amongst the percussion. The song kicks back into full flow around 4:30 and is soon joined by heavily porcessed vocals which would not be wholly out of place in a Daft Punk song. Not a bad mix, I think.

Teh vocals drop back out and are replaced by some simple, yet effective, guitar lines before the choir saunter back in from whenever they've been hiding. A short breakdown on the drums later and the backing band drop out leaving the choir to take centre stage, presumably to make up for all of the time they wasted by hiding. This section is really cool, and a really great end to the song.

And there we have the end of the song. I haven't had very much experience with Dub, but this has raised the bar of my expectations ridiculously high. 9.5/10
The song last a half mark due to the lack of elephants.

[b]Recommendations:[/b]

[url=http://tinyurl.com/cwu3p]The Sneaker Pimps - Six Underground[/url] (Trip Hop)

[url=http://tinyurl.com/98qvs]Bill Bailey - Love Song[/url] (Comedy ballad)

[url=http://tinyurl.com/adln3]Kraftwerk - Showroom Dummies[/url] (Electronica)

[url=http://tinyurl.com/dxc58]TCOMI - A Pirate I was Meant To Be[/url] (Sea Shanty)

[url=http://tinyurl.com/cwf29]The Bad Plus - And Here We Test Our Powers Of Observation[/url] (Jazz, which is supsiciously progressive...not Jazz in general. Just this song)



[size=1]Sorry I took so long, I was rather distracted by Lethal Weapon Four. I think I've listened to this song around ten times straight now
And here ends my forced listening experience. Thank you for reading.[/size]

munky_magik 09-10-2005 04:04 AM

I see. My songs just aren't good enough for anyone, is that it? :upset:


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