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Wanker 12-04-2005 08:32 PM

I love Inventing Modernism homework:

[i]As I Lay Dying
Vardaman, the child in the Bundren household, has a number of very enigmatic sayings and bewildering conversations -- for both reader and child -- in As I Lay Dying . At one point, he declares, "My mother is a fish." A little later, he has the following exchange with Darl, the second-oldest brother who has returned from World War I with a serious psychological disorder (probably what today we would call "post-traumatic stress disorder").

But my mother is a fish. Vernon seen it. He was there.
"Jewel's mother is a horse," Darl said
"Then mine can be a fish, cant it Darl?" I said
Jewel is my brother.
"Then mine will have to be a horse, too," I said.
"Why?" Darl said. "If pa is your pa, why does your ma have to be a horse just because Jewel's is?"
"Why does it?" I said. "Why does it, Darl?"
Darl is my brother.
"Then what is your ma, Darl?" I said.
I haven"t got ere one," Darl said. "because if I had one, it is was. And if it was, it can't be is. Can it?"
"No," I said.
I am. Darl is my brother.
"But you are, Darl," I said.
"I know it," Darl said. "That"s why I am not is. Are is too many for one woman to foal."

What do you make of this conversation? How does the paradigm and rhetoric of modernism shed light on its meaning? In modernist terms, what is Vardaman trying to figure out? How does the logic of the child resemble the logic of dreams? Using the same method of analysis, how do we account for Darl's assertion that he is not an "is" but an "are"? What Freudian resonances for Oedipal conflict and for dream associations does his psychologically distressed revelations suggest? What are the chilling implications of his final comment that "Are is too many for one woman to foal."? [/i]

So yeah, I wanna die.

pikester 12-04-2005 08:39 PM

Ouch.


.... Ouch.

BillCosby 12-04-2005 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=Wanker]I love Inventing Modernism homework:

[i]As I Lay Dying
Vardaman, the child in the Bundren household, has a number of very enigmatic sayings and bewildering conversations -- for both reader and child -- in As I Lay Dying . At one point, he declares, "My mother is a fish." A little later, he has the following exchange with Darl, the second-oldest brother who has returned from World War I with a serious psychological disorder (probably what today we would call "post-traumatic stress disorder").

But my mother is a fish. Vernon seen it. He was there.
"Jewel's mother is a horse," Darl said
"Then mine can be a fish, cant it Darl?" I said
Jewel is my brother.
"Then mine will have to be a horse, too," I said.
"Why?" Darl said. "If pa is your pa, why does your ma have to be a horse just because Jewel's is?"
"Why does it?" I said. "Why does it, Darl?"
Darl is my brother.
"Then what is your ma, Darl?" I said.
I haven"t got ere one," Darl said. "because if I had one, it is was. And if it was, it can't be is. Can it?"
"No," I said.
I am. Darl is my brother.
"But you are, Darl," I said.
"I know it," Darl said. "That"s why I am not is. Are is too many for one woman to foal."

What do you make of this conversation? How does the paradigm and rhetoric of modernism shed light on its meaning? In modernist terms, what is Vardaman trying to figure out? How does the logic of the child resemble the logic of dreams? Using the same method of analysis, how do we account for Darl's assertion that he is not an "is" but an "are"? What Freudian resonances for Oedipal conflict and for dream associations does his psychologically distressed revelations suggest? What are the chilling implications of his final comment that "Are is too many for one woman to foal."? [/i]

So yeah, I wanna die.[/QUOTE]

I hate reading Faulkner. [I]Light in August[/I] was such a drag.

Happymeal 12-04-2005 08:50 PM

I'm currently researching on Microsoft's monopoly on desktop computer operating systems.

/cheap

Wanker 12-04-2005 09:06 PM

I actually really like the book. Just the assignments are a complete drag.

Oh, you guys gotta see this final exam schedule of mine:

The Nuclear Age: Friday, 16th, 8AM-10AM
Inventing Modernism: Friday, 16th, 10:30AM-12:30PM
Basic Concepts In Physics: Friday, 16th, 1PM-3PM
Media & Self-Identity: Saturday, 17th, 1PM-3PM
Forms Of Speech: Saturday, 17th, 3:30PM-5:30PM

I dunno if I should kill myself or just have someone else do it.

asymm 12-04-2005 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]I just watched [i]Dogville[/i]. Incredible film.[/QUOTE]
I was just thinking about this movie a week or two ago. It really is an incredible movie and something that I need to watch again.

BillCosby 12-04-2005 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=Wanker]I actually really like the book. Just the assignments are a complete drag.

Oh, you guys gotta see this final exam schedule of mine:

The Nuclear Age: Friday, 16th, 8AM-10AM
Inventing Modernism: Friday, 16th, 10:30AM-12:30PM
Basic Concepts In Physics: Friday, 16th, 1PM-3PM
Media & Self-Identity: Saturday, 17th, 1PM-3PM
Forms Of Speech: Saturday, 17th, 3:30PM-5:30PM

I dunno if I should kill myself or just have someone else do it.[/QUOTE]

Holy crap. Thanks for putting my high school schoolwork in perspective.

The Great Decay 12-04-2005 09:41 PM

Horray for parents finding cigarettes in coat pockets!

schwypees 12-04-2005 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=The Great Decay]Horray for parents finding cigarettes in coat pockets![/QUOTE]

Play the "why were you going through my ****" card. It always seems to make things worse... But who knows, maybe you'll get lucky.

BillCosby 12-04-2005 09:50 PM

This is for YDLoad, since you haven't seen the Fall of Troy live.

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1678017355922625031&q=fall+of+troy[/url]

Sound quality sucks, but you get the general essence of it I suppose.

Happymeal 12-04-2005 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=The Great Decay]Horray for parents finding cigarettes in coat pockets![/QUOTE]

Better than wading through their stash of adult videos?

YDload 12-04-2005 10:22 PM

[QUOTE=BillCosby]This is for YDLoad, since you haven't seen the Fall of Troy live.

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1678017355922625031&q=fall+of+troy[/url]

Sound quality sucks, but you get the general essence of it I suppose.[/QUOTE]

Hey this is pretty cool. Can you discern the set list from that video?

Glitterati 12-04-2005 10:23 PM

So....moonboots.

biografiend 12-04-2005 10:28 PM

Dear Zappa:
I've been looking into getting an Alesis or a Korg lately, leaning more towards the Alesis for the drum machine (even though I heard it wasnt any good?), and I'm pretty sure you have one? Do you like it/was it worth the $$$?
Thank you,
Sam aka biografiend.

YDload 12-04-2005 10:31 PM

[QUOTE=YDload]Hey this is pretty cool. Can you discern the set list from that video?[/QUOTE]

Watchin' more of it now. The guitarist wants to be Omar Rodriguez so bad it's pitiful.

BillCosby 12-04-2005 10:51 PM

[QUOTE=YDload]Hey this is pretty cool. Can you discern the set list from that video?[/QUOTE]

Um, I could try, but I don't know any songs from the first album (besides the ones repeated on the second, obviously).

And I don't really have time to watch it again at the moment (Family Guy, American Dad :) ).

YDload 12-04-2005 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=BillCosby]Um, I could try, but I don't know any songs from the first album (besides the ones repeated on the second, obviously).

And I don't really have time to watch it again at the moment (Family Guy, American Dad :) ).[/QUOTE]

You don't know what you're missing, that was the better album. Also, Ghostship Part Four is their best song :cool:

BillCosby 12-04-2005 10:58 PM

[QUOTE=YDload]You don't know what you're missing, that was the better album. Also, Ghostship Part Four is their best song :cool:[/QUOTE]

On that google video engine if you search for "fall of troy" there's a vid of Ghostship Part Five. I haven't watched it yet, but yeah.

Also, a Weezer cover, strange enough.

YDload 12-04-2005 11:08 PM

Sounds like better pickings than the google video results for "dillinger escape plan." Just 30 seconds of some cameraphone garbage with no real sound at all. The band moves just like I remember, but I have no idea what they're playing.

br3ad_man 12-05-2005 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=asymm]I was just thinking about this movie a week or two ago. It really is an incredible movie and something that I need to watch again.[/QUOTE]

Have you seen any of Von Trier's other films? I need to see [I]Dancer In The Dark[/I], but my store doesn't have it.

talk show host 12-05-2005 05:00 AM

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]Have you seen any of Von Trier's other films? I need to see [I]Dancer In The Dark[/I], but my store doesn't have it.[/QUOTE]

Dancer in the Dark is a great film, but it makes me feel awful after watching it.

I really want to see Dogville. The style of the film intrigues me.

sweboy 12-05-2005 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=Happymeal]I'm currently researching on Microsoft's monopoly on desktop computer operating systems.

/cheap[/QUOTE]

Then perhaps I could point you in the following [URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420657"]direction.[/URL]

Luxor 12-05-2005 08:59 AM

Every little thing that you say or do, I'm hung up.
I hung up on you.
Waiting for your call baby night and day, I'm fed up.
I'm tired of waitin' on you.

6Stringer 12-05-2005 01:20 PM

I left school early because I was feeling rather ill. Is anyone else sick at the moment?

Jacaranda 12-05-2005 01:23 PM

I've been sick for five days. And 6 days ago I got my flu shot. I'm pissed.

6Stringer 12-05-2005 01:39 PM

My friend has the flu and pneumonia right now. I hope I don't get the flu as I've had before and it was really bad.

Happymeal 12-05-2005 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=Sweboy]Then perhaps I could point you in the following [URL="http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420657"]direction.[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yous in big trouble mang.

Zmev 12-05-2005 02:31 PM

Today seems to be a long day.

asymm 12-05-2005 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]Have you seen any of Von Trier's other films? I need to see [I]Dancer In The Dark[/I], but my store doesn't have it.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, no I haven't. I saw The Five Obstructions which features him in it, though. That one isn't actually a film - it's more of an experiment and test in the medium. But - I work at Hollywood Video and we have Dancer in the Dark - so I'll be seeing that in a couple weeks once I return home.

sweboy 12-05-2005 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=Happymeal]Yous in big trouble mang.[/QUOTE]

Come on, Bill is my personal bitch.


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