well, it differs depending on who you would ask. I tend to agree with KRS-1, since he basically named it, and was intricate in creating it as a genre, as well as a culture/lifestyle

examples of hip hop : Jurassic 5, De La Soul


rap is more agressive, and would encompass artists like Eminem and Nas


edit : subjectivity really should have nothing do with a definition

how many times are you going to say "what" on one fukking page?


i can't believe you're a mod most of the time

So Jurassic 5 isn't rap music?

Krups, you have no idea what you are talking about.

I could easily say the same thing about you

But that would be wrong.

you're hopeless

hip hop is a culture movement


[QUOTE]Hip hop is a cultural movement that began among urban African Americans in New York City in the early 1970s, and has since spread around the world. Some consider beatboxing the fifth element of hip hop; others might add political activism, hip hop fashion, hip hop slang, double dutching (an urban form of rope skipping) or other elements as important facets of hip hop. The term has since come to be a synonym for hip hop music and rap to mainstream audiences. ...[/QUOTE]

rap is like part of the whole. Hip hop is "all inclusive"

i think that's the most simplified answer I can give ya

thats like saying black metal and hardcore are the same thing. To people that know the differences, its a whole world of difference to them. To outsiders who aren't aware, they see it as synonymous with all types of metal.


thats essentially what you're doing

alright, your turn to try to explain how they are one in the same

I'd like to add that Hip Hop Music and Rap Music are the same thing. Though, Rap AKA emceeing ( MC'ing) in itself is a subgenre of Hip Hop, the culture.

I'm not introducing new information.

Yes, 50Cent makes Hip Pop. Also, in multiple interviews 2Pac admits to perform "Rap". But I like to classify his music as Hip Hop.

So basically, you're full of bs

What's so contradicting?

Sepstrup, that was addressed to me?

I give preference to the term Hip Hop.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=vigPk9n5-50[/url]

Also:

[quote=LapraS on the subject of hiphop and rap being the same thing]What's funny about someone not being able to distinguish two music genres?[/quote]

[quote=LapraS]I'd like to add that Hip Hop Music and Rap Music are the same thing. [/quote]

So yeah. Bs.

No, point of discussion was, is Hip Hop the same as Rap, which is untrue, for Rap is a subgenre of the cultural movement; Hip Hop.
As I said, Hip Hop consists of Rap ( MC'ing), graffiti, DJ'ing etc.

No, my position is still the same.

There are four fundamental elements in Hip Hop:

* Hip hop dance: Breakdance and various forms of street dance
* Hip hop art: Urban inspired art, often as graffiti
* Hip hop music: DJing, beats and beatmaking, and hip hop production
* Rapping: MCing and urban inspired poetry

I do. Bah, this Rap or Hip Hop conversation is over. *Turns on Notorious BIG- Juicy*

Rap is a part of Hip Hop, okay? I've made that clear like a million times. I've not changed my opinions at all. RAP is not the SAME as Hip Hop..get it? Jeez, get over it.

[QUOTE=Spat Out Plath;14645989]Because rap and hip hop are the same thing.[/QUOTE]

No, it's not, like you acknowlegded yourself.

[QUOTE=LapraS;14646614]Rap is a part of Hip Hop, okay? I've made that clear like a million times. I've not changed my opinions at all. RAP is not the SAME as Hip Hop..get it? Jeez, get over it.[/QUOTE]

Umm... read the last few pages again. You said Spat was confusing two music genres, then you said rap and hiphop music are the same thing.

Emphasis on 'music'.

So he wasn't confusing two music genres as you said?

No, he wasn't. He was confusing terminology.

So why did you write:

[quote]What's funny about someone not being able to distinguish two music genres?[/quote]

Because I made a mistake?

But you met the Wu-Tang Clan

I did, yes.

Wu-Tang Clan haven't been relevant for close to 15 years now. It's basically two outside members, Ghostface and Masta, who are carrying their name on.

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb;14645297]Yeah, I checked out those tracks on Myspace. Really fantastic production. That's the only thing I was worried about. Pharoaheeee[/QUOTE]

About 80% of the album is out. I'm upset it doesn't seem "Got You" will be on it.

I've been to a concert, and RZA welcomed me to the stage.
And The Wu was released 7 years ago, so what are you talking about?

No, once.

You're disturbing.

You possess Oink invites?

Let's discuss the new Pharoahe Monch instead. I want the new album even though he cancelled his concert at Roskilde last year :( (I saw Why? instead, which was also awesome)

Pharcyde is good.

I only know 1-2 Pharoah songs and they were kinda funny.

"Put your hands, up in the air and then spread them"...was that him?

ALSO - Rap, Hip Hop and Jazz Fusion are all the same thing.

jazz fusion what

Your Avatar is wonderful.