[QUOTE=JamJar]He was being sarcastic.[/QUOTE]

true, I really don't get people who don't get sarcasm

opiate - 3 way tie of swear, jerk-off (live) and part of me
undertow - ill be a bitch, and say undertow. god i love playing that song on guitar

ænima - Jimmy :thumb:
Salival - pu**** (live)
3rd Leg - Prison sex + extra verse
Lateralus - The Patient
10,000 days - Vicarious or Roseta Stoned

Am I the only one who doesn't really care for Jambi? It seems to go nowhere at all.

I would have to agree with you about Jambi. It's my least favourite on 10,000 Days.

honestly, i LOVE the end of that song, which makes it all worth it to me



"SHINE OOOONNN FOREVVVER SHINE OOOON BEN-EVOLENT SON"

<awesome guitar riffage>


come on now

[QUOTE=JamJar]I would have to agree with you about Jambi. It's my least favourite on 10,000 Days.[/QUOTE]

I like the semi-thrashy riff at the start, but I don't think it constitutes a verse riff. It sounds funny with Maynard singing over it. I like the talk box (I think) guitar solo, but the song is like 7 minutes of randomness to me. This song should have came later in the album, as I think it is a poor song to follow Vicarious, which I consider to be one of the best songs on the album. The rest of the album aside from Jambi is pretty ace, though.

Opiate: Jerk-Off
Undertow: Prison Sex
Aenima: Push[U]i[/U]t
Lateralus: Reflection
10,000 Days: Right in Two

Well, here are mine:

Opiate: Opiate
Undertow: Prison Sex
Ænima: jimmy/Stinkfist
Lateralus: Disposition
10,000 Days: 10,000 Days

Took a while to make this list, heres my top 25 Tool tracks.

1. Lateralus
2. Eon Blue Apocalypse/The Patient
3. The Grudge
4. Parabol/Parabola
5. No Quarter
6. Pu**** (Live)
7. Vicarious
8. Stinkfist
9. Wings For Marie/10,000 Days
10. You Lied (Live)
11. Pu****
12. Forty Six & 2
13. Eulogy
14. H.
15. The Pot
16. Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned
17. Mantra/Schism
18. Disposition
19. 4°
20. Sober
21. Right In Two
22. Reflection
23. Aenima
24. Opiate
25. Swamp Song

Haha! It would be far too difficult to compile any list of the sort. And to be quite honest, there is no point as it would change far too easily.

[QUOTE=BurtonChancellor]Okay, take your very favourite song. Now, take out whatever vocals are in that song, and replace them with a baby squalling throughout the entire song. Do you still enjoy the song in spite of the new "vocals"?

Personally for me, nothing ruins a song more easily than really bad vocals, or a vocal style I just personally can't stand.[/QUOTE]
[B]Yeah that's all I'm saying, I think growling is either for people who are trying to compensate for the fact either thier voice isn't good or they think it sounds "Hardcore" [Another kind of music I cannot stand.].[/B]

[QUOTE=AdventEnd][B]Yeah that's all I'm saying, I think growling is either for people who are trying to compensate for the fact either thier voice isn't good or they think it sounds "Hardcore" [Another kind of music I cannot stand.].[/B][/QUOTE]
Have you ever listened to Opeth?

Opiate- Jerk-Off
Undertow- Prison Sex
Aenima- Jimmy
Lateralus- Reflection
10,000 Days- Jambi, definetly possibly even both parts of Lost Keys and Rosetta Stoned.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Have you ever listened to Opeth?[/QUOTE]Yeah, instumentaly amazing; Vocalist- Needing a swift kick to the mouth. Lol.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Yeah, instumentaly amazing; Vocalist- Needing a swift kick to the mouth. Lol.[/QUOTE]
Even his clean stuff? That's what I was talking about. He doesn't growl because he can't sing. He chooses to growl to get that more evil sound.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Yeah, instumentaly amazing; Vocalist- Needing a swift kick to the mouth. Lol.[/QUOTE]
??? He does both growling and clean, and his clean is objectively good.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Even his clean stuff? That's what I was talking about. He doesn't growl because he can't sing. He chooses to growl to get that more evil sound.[/QUOTE]For sure, love the clean stuff. Love thier music, period. But don't you agree that growling gets old fast?

I like his growling better than his clean.

No... no I don't.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]No... no I don't.[/QUOTE]Lol. Me either, that's why I like Tool, Maynard doesn't [hardly ever] scream. All of the "evil-ness" they need is in the lyrics alone.

Sorry, I was replying to your comment. I don't get bored of growling. :lol:

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Sorry, I was replying to your comment. I don't get bored of growling. :lol:[/QUOTE]Haha. I guess it's just a matter of opinion. It's like trying to change someones opinion on abortion and religeon... Pointless. Lol.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd][B]Yeah that's all I'm saying, I think growling is either for people who are trying to compensate for the fact either thier voice isn't good or they think it sounds "Hardcore" [Another kind of music I cannot stand.].[/B][/QUOTE]

Growling can have talent. There are good growlers and screamers.

Just because you don't like it, kiddo, dosn't mean it's not talented.

I will agree, however, that a good emotional clean voice gets me every time, and growling over every song [i]can[/i] get repetitive in some bands.

Well, you can change poeple's opinions on political issues like abortion by demonstrating with valid facts and a strong arguement.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Growling can have talent. There are good growlers and screamers.

Just because you don't like it, kiddo, dosn't mean it's not talented.[/QUOTE]Once again, it's a matter of opinion.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Once again, it's a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE]
Talent is not a matter of opinion.

:lol: Just relax, he doesn't like it, leave it at that. Maybe it'll grow on him.

Yeah, well I'm just trying to point out that it can take talent to growl well. I'm pretty much the only one I know that can growl well.

[QUOTE=Moses]Talent is not a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE]Well I don't think you have to be talented to do it. Therefor it's a matter of opinion.

So you're suggesting that Mikael Akerfeldt doens't have talent?




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Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knows any bands that are Tool/APC like. {which don't scream}?

[QUOTE=Otherside]So you're suggesting that Mikael Akerfeldt doens't have talent?




:\[/QUOTE]Yes he has talent when using his real voice, but not when he growls.

[QUOTE=AdventEnd]Well I don't think you have to be talented to do it. Therefor it's a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE]

Okay, fine.

Scream/Growl you lungs out as hard as you can.

To lyrics.

Keep doing it for about three to five to possibly 21 minutes (listen to I by Meshuggah).

Now, go on a tour and do a set of about 11-12 songs where you keep doing that.

Yes, it takes talent.

Consider the other side of the situation, Sonny-Jim.

That doesn't make any sense :/

[QUOTE=Syncratic]Okay, fine.

Scream/Growl you lungs out as hard as you can.

To lyrics.

Keep doing it for about three to five to possibly 21 minutes (listen to I by Meshuggah).

Now, go on a tour and do a set of about 11-12 songs where you keep doing that.

Yes, it takes talent.

Consider the other side of the situation, Sonny-Jim.[/QUOTE]Well whoopy-****, I don't wanna start **** with anyone, but I fell that simply screaming all the time you eventually get used to it. Hell I stood in for one of our local bands and screamed for just about five minuetes, and was asked to be the second vocalist for the band. All I'm saying is it doesn't impress me one bit.

Okay, that's fine.

Still, it doesn't mean that it doesn't require talent.

[QUOTE=Syncratic]Okay, that's fine.

Still, it doesn't mean that it doesn't require talent.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I take it back. But all I was saying in the beggining is that I'm not a fan.

We're cool, then.

New discussion: How much 'The Pot' kicks as[U]s[/U] and why.

[QUOTE=Syncratic]We're cool, then.

New discussion: How much 'The Pot' kicks as[U]s[/U] and why.[/QUOTE]True Dat Lol. For some reason I can't let go of how akward, "Got lemon juice up in your eye" is. Buuuuut I guess since it's Tool... i'll let it go...

The guitar riff is just so great.

I can't wait for this to be the next single, and what the clip will be like.