You know what I find funny? All the song names that people thought sucked before they heard the album ended up being the best songs on it. I love how Lost Keys rolls into Rosetta Stoned, it's probably my favorite song on the album but I think their use of hallucinogens has influenced this album a little too much. I don't know I'm sure it will grow on me.

[QUOTE=lucky luciano]You know what I find funny? All the song names that people thought sucked before they heard the album ended up being the best songs on it. .[/QUOTE] I also noticed this. The same thing happned to the artwork. Remember a while back someone posted a link to some leaked images. I remember alot of people saying that they were toolish but fakes none the less. Kinda neat to see them on the Cd.

Ok guys, I need backup. [URL="http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466805&page=3"]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466805&page=3[/URL]

[QUOTE=Toggle Switch]Ok guys, I need backup. [URL="http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466805&page=3"]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466805&page=3[/URL][/QUOTE]

Back up with what? Want us to come in there and do the typical tool fanboy thing and proclaim that everyone elses opinion is wrong and that Tool = teh H4X0rz??

[QUOTE=One Groovin Clown]Back up with what? Want us to come in there and do the typical tool fanboy thing and proclaim that everyone elses opinion is wrong and that Tool = teh H4X0rz??[/QUOTE]

Yeah, pretty much. Now on with it!

Eh they're allowed to say stadium>10,000 days just as im allowed to say that i dont think either of these albums are albums of the year.

You started the argument in a RHCP review site, how much pity do you want from us?

Yeah, that's just looking for trouble. Don't be a fanboy.


Anyways, I listened to 10,000 Days all the way through. It was quite the experience, one I haven't had in a long time with music. I just sat in my room with the lights out, no noise or distraction, and just listened to the album. It was great.

God, the mess of the reviews comments hurts my eyes. Its the usual

'fan makes a comment'
'non fan disagrees'
'fan debates this point in a dignified manner'

Fanboy enters

'fanboy argues this point without factual backup, and lack of english skills'
'non fan turns into idiot too and starts disagreeing with everything'


Anyway, this wait for the Vicarious video is really getting to me, I want it now :(

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]God, the mess of the reviews comments hurts my eyes. Its the usual

'fan makes a comment'
'non fan disagrees'
'fan debates this point in a dignified manner'

Fanboy enters

'fanboy argues this point without factual backup, and lack of english skills'
'non fan turns into idiot too and starts disagreeing with everything'
[/QUOTE]
The worse part is definiatly when the fan boy enters.

And then all the idiots refer to every Tool fan as a fanboy[URL=-cough- Jacaranda -cough-"][/URL].

Ugh.

[QUOTE=SonorKen]The worse part is definiatly when the fan boy enters.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, its the the catalyst for the ugliness

(Excuse me while I go consult a dictionary regarding my post)

Happy Birthday Danny...

anyone wanna cover Vicarious with me? I almost have the guitar parts down pat :thumb:

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]anyone wanna cover Vicarious with me? I almost have the guitar parts down pat :thumb:[/QUOTE]

I get a recording device and I'll throw some drums down for you.

[QUOTE=Che Guevara]anyone wanna cover Vicarious with me? I almost have the guitar parts down pat :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Whose gonna do the drum tracks? I did the drum tracks for someone on here for Stinkfist. I should be in the studio within the next month and could get ya some raw .dat tracks.

Ahhh, so today is Carey's bday? Sounds like a good reason to toss one down.


Ack, beat the the punch by Huber!

actually, anyone who wants to participate....


sonor, dont be put off cause huber is doing it. If i get more than one drum track, ill just put guitar on both :thumb:

I think ill have to do 2 tracks for the intro, but that shouldnt be a big deal. Im hoping i can get my condensor working perfect to mic my cab.

How are ya going to record the guitar parts? What format? Know of any bass players here who would want to participate as well? If not the guy I play with from Side A Only can lay em down.

If ya get the guitar tracks I can probably get the whole thing pro-mixed when we do our 4 track demo cd. They have alloted a whole day for me to do my tracks but I shouldn't take more than 2 hours max so I should be able to use the rest of my day for a "side project".

I'll probably be a flake anyways, drums are all yours. I'm real busy.

While your here Ken...

I got the mics, I got the mixer, what kind of thing should I run all this into to record?

i record in wav format, then convert that to MP3


with my GNX4, ill probably do a condensor in, and record the guitar over top the mp3 i put onto the flash memory card :thumb:


It may sound semi-live-esque, since im using a condensor. Ill be running my PRS tremonti sig, which is fairly similar to AJ silverburst. I can easily get a HEAVY distorted tone from my Krank amp. Ill be sure to try to dial in his tone to the best of my ability

[QUOTE=Huber]I'll probably be a flake anyways, drums are all yours. I'm real busy.

While your here Ken...

I got the mics, I got the mixer, what kind of thing should I run all this into to record?[/QUOTE]

Go ahead and work on them as well. I have already been playing the song live with some friends so I already know the drum tracks. As far as busy, haha, man, were in the same boat.

My recording set up is pretty simple. I run all my mics, (Shure Sm57 snare, hats, under snare, Beta 52's for each kick [micced to pick up the actual drum tone, not alot of attack], Shure SM81's [2 overheads, 2 for effect cymbals {cup chimes, flanger bell, mega cup chime etc}], and Audix D2's for toms, and Audix D4's for my 14" and 16" floor toms) and Roland SPDS (PD9's and KD120) into a Roland VS1680. Before they hit the 1680 I have a equalizer on the kicks and snare and all the toms/snare are gated.

The Roland VS1680 is a GREAT recording platform. I was actually planning on selling my 1680 and getting the VS2480 but changed my mind as I would rather get a Handsonic and MC909. Here is the info I listed on the auction tho, it should fill ya in on the info.

[I]The VS-1680 Digital Studio Workstation represents the new definition of recording power: a 16-track, 24-bit audio recording, editing, mixing and effects processing system in a compact tabletop workstation. With its advanced features, amazing sound quality and intuitive new user interface, the VS-1680 is a bold step forward in professional audio recording.
16 tracks of hard disk audio recording; 256 Virtual tracks (16 tracks x 16 V-tracks) to freely record different ideas and arrangements
24-bit MT Pro Recording Mode for massive headroom and dynamic range—a first in its class
Huge 320 x 240 dot graphic LCD provides simultaneous level meters, play list, EQ curves, EFX settings, waveforms, and more
20-bit A/D, D/A converters for pristine sound
2 optional 24-bit stereo multi-effects processors (VS8F-2) provide up to 8 channels of independent effects processing
New EZ Routing function allows users to create and save various recording, mixing, track bouncing and other comprehensive mixer templates for instant recall
10 audio inputs: 2 balanced XLR-type inputs w/ phantom power, 6 balanced 1/4" inputs, and 1 stereo digital input (optical/coaxial)
12 audio outputs: 8 RCA-type outputs (Master L/R, Aux.A L/R, Aux.B L/R, Monitor L/R), and 2 stereo digital outputs (1 optical, 1 coaxial) plus Phones output
Dedicated LED buttons and an elegant user interface for simplified operation
Direct audio CD recording and data backup using built-in SCSI port and optional compatible CD-R drive

Upgraded System also includes: These are all options I bought for this system

1- VSBF-2 Effects Expansion board
It is VXpanded
Upgraded to a 20 gigabyte hard drive
Includes the fast VS-CDR III External CD-ROM burner to burn your music straight to a cd
Also includes a pair of Edirol MA10 monitors/speakers for mixing without a headset[/I]

If ya don't want to dump that kinda cash into a recording system (you can actually produce demo quality recordings with this) you can grab a 8 track (6 virtual tracks) Tascam cassette recorder. I have one of these and can hit ya up with info on it as well. I use it for laying down drum tracks when I wake up in the middle of the night with an idea. It's easy to use, easy to catalog tracks and convert. The 1680 requires mixing and mastering.




[QUOTE=Che Guevara]i record in wav format, then convert that to MP3


with my GNX4, ill probably do a condensor in, and record the guitar over top the mp3 i put onto the flash memory card :thumb:


It may sound semi-live-esque, since im using a condensor. Ill be running my PRS tremonti sig, which is fairly similar to AJ silverburst. I can easily get a HEAVY distorted tone from my Krank amp. Ill be sure to try to dial in his tone to the best of my ability[/QUOTE]

If I had to guess I would say the engineer would want it left in .wav format as MP3 format loses alot of quality. I think we should definiatly want the live-esque sound, if people wanna hear the real thing they can buy the cd haha.

You guys should hit me up on aim (aim = sniffinlippy)

o shizz, you're on aim


me = kurrptsenate


ill leave it in wav for ya then :thumb:

keep a copy in wav and convert another... best of both worlds...

Done & done :thumb:

What's up guys? Quick question:

I've really been wanting to listen to bands like Mogwai, and Isis, but I have not a clue which are their best albums..

The new Tool cd, of course, is mind blowing, but I don't want to be too narrow with music. I've heard Isis before, but I don't understand why the lead singer wants to growl/scream over such beautiful music (the f u c ker). Is Mogwai this way..? And can you point me to more bands who can blow mind chunks as much as Tool..?

Thanks for the help, if anyone can..

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]What's up guys? Quick question:

I've really been wanting to listen to bands like Mogwai, and Isis, but I have not a clue which are their best albums..

The new Tool cd, of course, is mind blowing, but I don't want to be too narrow with music. I've heard Isis before, but I don't understand why the lead singer wants to growl/scream over such beautiful music (the f u c ker). Is Mogwai this way..? And can you point me to more bands who can blow mind chunks as much as Tool..?

Thanks for the help, if anyone can..[/QUOTE]

I dont think Mogwai is that way, I remember having an album by them and the singer didnt scream.

[QUOTE=Daven]I dont think Mogwai is that way, I remember having an album by them and the singer didnt scream.[/QUOTE]

Sweet..
It's not that I hate screaming. Hell, if the music and emotional setting of the song calls for it, then by all means. But if someone is growling just for the hell of it, it pisses me off. "What the f u c k are you screaming for?! You're singing a f u c king song about your trip to the cemetary!"

So, what would you say is one of their better cd's..?

has anyone seen this ? [url]http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2723346[/url]

ive seen some of the bikini bandit things on the APC DVD i have. They suck tbh

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]Sweet..
It's not that I hate screaming. Hell, if the music and emotional setting of the song calls for it, then by all means. But if someone is growling just for the hell of it, it pisses me off. "What the f u c k are you screaming for?! You're singing a f u c king song about your trip to the cemetary!"

So, what would you say is one of their better cd's..?[/QUOTE]

I know what you mean, like in Beginning And The End, the song is iincredible, but the voclas just kills the song.

Hmm i wouldnt know which cd man, i used to have one but it disappearde from my conmputer.

But take a look into these reviews:
[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/band/Mogwai[/url]

I used to have Happy Music For Happy People.

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]
So, what would you say is one of their better cd's..?[/QUOTE]

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Whoring my reviews of mogwai. They still remain the best live experience I have ever seen

I'm seeing them in Kansas City tommorow night (F uck my senior banquet :) ). I can't wait to see what the set list is...

Is there a band opening for them on this short tour? or is it just Tool. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]Sweet..
It's not that I hate screaming. Hell, if the music and emotional setting of the song calls for it, then by all means. But if someone is growling just for the hell of it, it pisses me off. "What the f u c k are you screaming for?! You're singing a f u c king song about your trip to the cemetary!"

So, what would you say is one of their better cd's..?[/QUOTE]

You should REALLY check out this band called Jesu. Their newest EP 'Silver' is brilliant, kinda like Isis i suppose that kinda post metal sound but with nice vocals :)

And this tour is just tool.

And AJIG i have a mogwai album 'young team' but am not that impressed. Anychance i'd like any of their other stuff. I just was pretty bored listening to the one i have..

Hmmm, I might could do vocals if I ever stop being so busy.

... is that before or after you actually learn to like this song?


how'd you get ban'd?

I posted in an illegal thread close to the time Riva went on a banning spree. It was supposed to be five days but he apparently lowered it to 4:00 Central time today after I made my case.

As for the song, I don't hate it anymore. I like it mildly and in retrospect.

[QUOTE=Esoteric_Creator]Sweet..
It's not that I hate screaming. Hell, if the music and emotional setting of the song calls for it, then by all means. But if someone is growling just for the hell of it, it pisses me off. "What the f u c k are you screaming for?! You're singing a f u c king song about your trip to the cemetary!"

So, what would you say is one of their better cd's..?[/QUOTE]

Both Oceanic and Panopticon are good Isis CDs. I thought the screaming really worked well and the way it is used makes it just another instrument and not the main focus. And they're awesome live and that man can scream like a god.

Hey ATC, you still in for planning that record label thingy?

Has anyone seen the clip for 'Vicarious' or know when it will debut?

^No, but looks like there's a 'Vicarious' single dvd on the way. I guess something like the previously released 'Schism' and 'Parabol/Parabola'.
[url]http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002500219[/url]
Maybe this will have some extra stuff on it. comment from Jones himself perhaps? That'd be nice.

I heard about that.......interesting, nonetheless.