pull the spear out your *** dude. were not trying to make some dumb elitist statement, its just like a tradition thats nice to uphold sometimes.

Are you going to keep the sell-out tradition going?

EDgE iZ 4 FAgZZZ.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being straight edge. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be such a big focus in hardcore. Keep it to yourself or let it out when you see your favorite straight edge bands. Everyone is in hardcore for different reasons.

Did you think about it that way when you were edge? I'm just wondering.

[QUOTE=shane italian]Everyone is in hardcore for different reasons.[/QUOTE]


truf. its not a big focus for me, you take alot of what i say way more seriously than i mean it.

It was nice to see kids X up for the champion show in the same way its nice to see ducks when i walk past the lake. Straight edge was born in the hardcore community, and it will probably die with it.

Hahahaha. I like the analogy.

In other news. I'm tired. I had to goto water polo from 5:30 to 8:00. I'm gonna leave pretty soon to get my paycheck and get some gas and see if Greene Records has the It's All Our Blood reissue.

you and your water polo.

Gettin a hot bod.

Wait, so you judge a show on how many people X up? Are the ones that X up the only true hardcore fans/straight edge kids?

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Did you think about it that way when you were edge? I'm just wondering.[/QUOTE]

I think that way and I'm edge. Not to be offensive or anything, but bragging about your lifestyle is kind of obnoxious. We can all get along whether you do drugs or not.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]Wait, so you judge a show on how many people X up? Are the ones that X up the only true hardcore fans/straight edge kids?[/QUOTE]
I know a lot of straight-edge kids, including myself, that don't X it up.

I always count x'ed up kids, too. I don't see how you can call x'ing up bragging about your lifestyle, that's like saying wearing a shirt of a band you like is bragging about liking them. No, it's just a statement about you, whether it's about what music you like or whether it's about the fact that you're proud of the way you live your life.

Then again, maybe I only count because it's actually possible to do so. Including myself, I saw three x'ed up people when I saw Bane. THREE. Straight edge kids seem to be a dying breed around here, and so I'm happy whenever I see someone willing to wear it on their hand AND their heart.

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[QUOTE=Johnny Roddick]I always count x'ed up kids, too. I don't see how you can call x'ing up bragging about your lifestyle, that's like saying wearing a shirt of a band you like is bragging about liking them. No, it's just a statement about you, whether it's about what music you like or whether it's about the fact that you're proud of the way you live your life.

Then again, maybe I only count because it's actually possible to do so. Including myself, I saw three x'ed up people when I saw Bane. THREE. Straight edge kids seem to be a dying breed around here, and so I'm happy whenever I see someone willing to wear it on their hand AND their heart.

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Yes, it is. It's totally different then wearing a band shirt. It's making a statement, yes, that no one should really care about. It's the way they want to live, drugs or not.

It's not like x'ing up means you're pushing edge in everybody's face. It'd be bragging if you were a prick about it, but having x's on your hands doesn't mean you're bragging about anything. It's just an easy way of saying "this is me, this what I believe in".

[QUOTE=dislocated214]I know a lot of straight-edge kids, including myself, that don't X it up.[/QUOTE]
Same here.

X'ing up IS bragging about being edge. That's why most people who have been edge for any decent amount of time usually don't X up. What is the actual purpose of X'ing up?

[QUOTE=Johnny Roddick]It's not like x'ing up means you're pushing edge in everybody's face. It'd be bragging if you were a prick about it, but having x's on your hands doesn't mean you're bragging about anything. It's just an easy way of saying "this is me, this what I believe in".[/QUOTE]I've never thought X'ing up was something that I agreed with.

That's like me plastering a republican tattoo on my forehead because it's something I believe in. (hypothetical scenario)

I'm not saying you're doing something wrong if you X up, but don't tell yourself you have more "heart" than the next guy for doing it.

[QUOTE=shane italian]I'm not saying you're doing something wrong if you X up, but don't tell yourself you have more "heart" than the next guy for doing it.[/QUOTE]

Tr00f

D'amnit. I went in to get my check and he said they'll be ready tomorrow. Wtf. I need it now.

[QUOTE=shane italian]I've never thought X'ing up was something that I agreed with.

That's like me plastering a republican tattoo on my forehead because it's something I believe in. (hypothetical scenario)

I'm not saying you're doing something wrong if you X up, but don't tell yourself you have more "heart" than the next guy for doing it.[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it's wrong to be edge and not x up at all.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]Wait, so you judge a show on how many people X up? Are the ones that X up the only true hardcore fans/straight edge kids?[/QUOTE]

learn to read.

[QUOTE=Johnny Roddick]I'm happy whenever I see someone willing to wear it on their hand AND their heart.[/QUOTE]

So do non-Xers not wear it on their heart?

[QUOTE=Nataroo]learn to read.[/QUOTE]

Oh haha, good one. Read yourown statements. If even you didn't mean to say it, you basically said you judge shows on how many X'ed up kids there are.

no. you are a belligerent jackass, stop trying to start fights through your own misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]So do non-Xers not wear it on their heart?[/QUOTE]
They do, hence I said people willing to wear it on their heart AND on their hand, meaning those two things are not necessarily inclusive. Somebody x'ing up who doesn't feel it inside is a lot worse than somebody who believes in it not x'ing up.

[QUOTE=Nataroo]its not a big focus for me, you take alot of what i say way more seriously than i mean it.

It was nice to see kids X up for the champion show in the same way its nice to see ducks when i walk past the lake. Straight edge was born in the hardcore community, and it will probably die with it.[/QUOTE]

there. jesus, that was like one page ago.

I decided not to get high today!

ha,true till tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Nataroo]no. you are a belligerent jackass, stop trying to start fights through your own misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]

How am I trying to start fights? I like Johnny Roddick, and I'm just having a conversation. Also, do you [I]really[/I] think I don't understand straight edge and the hardcore scene?