Would Iron Maiden be classified by you guys as Classic Rock? I just downloaded Number of the Beast to check them out, and that is one badass song.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Would Iron Maiden be classified by you guys as Classic Rock? I just downloaded Number of the Beast to check them out, and that is one badass song.[/QUOTE]
Classic metal or just heavy metal.

Heavy metal

You know after listening to Tommy the the third time today, I must say I think this is the best concept album in rock. Now I love Pink Floyd, and the Wall is brillent, but would it exist without Tommy. Still I think Tommy is better, at least lyrics wise, probally not instrumentally though. I love the Wall, but I feel this is better.

[QUOTE=blue3]Cause it was like 5 bucks[/QUOTE]
yeah but still...

eh, i own it too. haha.

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]You know after listening to Tommy the the third time today, I must say I think this is the best concept album in rock. Now I love Pink Floyd, and the Wall is brillent, but would it exist without Tommy. Still I think Tommy is better, at least lyrics wise, probally not instrumentally though. I love the Wall, but I feel this is better.[/QUOTE]

there are more concept albums in rock than just tommy and the wall. i agree that tommy is brilliant. and comparing it to the wall it does indeed come out on top. however, the wall, i believe, is vastly overrated... many of its songs are sub par, even bordering on irritating (first one to come to mind in that category would be the trial). Granted, there are some great songs (comfortably numb, another brick in the wall, mother, run like hell, hey you), which are absolutely fantastic, but i think the wall as a whole is not as solid as many other great classic rock albums of the day...
other great concept albums more worthy to compare to tommy are:
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts CLub Band
The Who - Quadrophenia
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of THe Moon
Rush - 2112
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
these are all i can think of but it's like 2:30 in the morning. at a more reasonable hour i can prob give u a better list...

[QUOTE=B0nz0]there are more concept albums in rock than just tommy and the wall. i agree that tommy is brilliant. and comparing it to the wall it does indeed come out on top. however, the wall, i believe, is vastly overrated... many of its songs are sub par, even bordering on irritating (first one to come to mind in that category would be the trial). Granted, there are some great songs (comfortably numb, another brick in the wall, mother, run like hell, hey you), which are absolutely fantastic, but i think the wall as a whole is not as solid as many other great classic rock albums of the day...
other great concept albums more worthy to compare to tommy are:
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts CLub Band
The Who - Quadrophenia
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of THe Moon
Rush - 2112
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
these are all i can think of but it's like 2:30 in the morning. at a more reasonable hour i can prob give u a better list...[/QUOTE]
Pet Sounds? Pet Sounds, then Sgt. Peppers, since the Beatles were new to America, and tried to base it off them.

[QUOTE=Jam2Me]I picked up the Flying Burrito Brothers Greatest Hits...only listened to half of it though.[/QUOTE]
You'll find the 1st half to be better than the 2nd. I mean you just cant top Parson's work. :smoke:

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]yeah but still...

eh, i own it too. haha.[/QUOTE]
The CD's not that horrible

[QUOTE=B0nz0]there are more concept albums in rock than just tommy and the wall. i agree that tommy is brilliant. and comparing it to the wall it does indeed come out on top. however, the wall, i believe, is vastly overrated... many of its songs are sub par, even bordering on irritating (first one to come to mind in that category would be the trial). Granted, there are some great songs (comfortably numb, another brick in the wall, mother, run like hell, hey you), which are absolutely fantastic, but i think the wall as a whole is not as solid as many other great classic rock albums of the day...
other great concept albums more worthy to compare to tommy are:
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts CLub Band
The Who - Quadrophenia
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of THe Moon
Rush - 2112
Emerson, Lake, & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
these are all i can think of but it's like 2:30 in the morning. at a more reasonable hour i can prob give u a better list...[/QUOTE]

Well I ment more the Rock Oprea kind of thing. I know there are more then just those two, I just used The Wall as an example because until today with Tommy it was my favorite :)

[QUOTE=pigonthewing82]Well I ment more the Rock Oprea kind of thing. I know there are more then just those two, I just used The Wall as an example because until today with Tommy it was my favorite :)[/QUOTE]

Bohemian Rhapsody is my favorite one track rock opera


Does Zappa's "Apostrophe" count as a concept album?

Okay, how's Sgt Peppers a concept album. I'm slow :(

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Okay, how's Sgt Peppers a concept album. I'm slow :([/QUOTE]
SAme, could someone tell me?

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Okay, how's Sgt Peppers a concept album. I'm slow :([/QUOTE]

Its all in how you interpret (god I wish I could spell that word) the album. I interpret it as the story of a band whose front man (Billy Shears) feels isolated from the world because of his fame and ends up killing himself in the end.

Its just one way of looking at it, that might not be how John intented it. I can't see how A Saucerful of Secrets is a rock oprea, but David Gilmour says he gets scripts for it from fans every once in a while.

Should I get Music from Big Pink for the Band's s/t? Don't say both please :upset:

Couple other concept albums: ELP's Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery. Also King Crimson's In the Wake of Poseidon.

On the Sgt. Pepper's debate....my senior paper is one rock operas and concept albums. From what I've read, at the time people considered it a concept album, but by modern definition it doesn't really fit. The only concept aspects of the album are both Sgt. Peppers songs and With a Little Help From my Friends. Everything else, to the 'believers', are the fictional band's set list.....the people who point out that the album isn't a concept album says all the songs in between are just a bunch of songs.

I think Sgt Peppers could get away with being a concept album...All the songs do have to do with the same general topic, and its first and (second to) last song re-appear like other concept albums. Wether the beatles intended this, i dont know, but its still a fabulous album.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Couple other concept albums: ELP's Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery. Also King Crimson's In the Wake of Poseidon.

On the Sgt. Pepper's debate....my senior paper is one rock operas and concept albums. From what I've read, at the time people considered it a concept album, but by modern definition it doesn't really fit. The only concept aspects of the album are both Sgt. Peppers songs and With a Little Help From my Friends. Everything else, to the 'believers', are the fictional band's set list.....the people who point out that the album isn't a concept album says all the songs in between are just a bunch of songs.[/QUOTE]

Again its all in how you interpret it. In my head all of the songs move the story till its climax with A Day In The Life. Lucy In The Sky With Dimonds is just another song kind of like Good Bye Blue Sky on The Wall, its true there are a few songs like that, but here are the songs I feel keep the story moving. Getting Better all the Time describes Shears childhood to his adult life, Shes Leaving Home is about the main characters sister probally running away, though for that song I think I'm streaching it, When I'm 64 is the main character quistioning wheather or not hes getting too old for rock and roll, I think Lovley Rita is about what happened to Shears sister after she left in Shes Leaving Home, Good Morning is about how Shears life is going back to the way it was in Getting Better all the Time, The Repraise is about the band going out of style again, and A Day in the Life is abut a fan reading the paper and reading that his favorite artist (Shears) has killed himself. I know some of it is a streach, and I'm putting more thought into it then John intented, but the great thing about the Beatles is their songs mean different things to different people. To some people one of their songs might mean to go on a killing spree and write the name of the song on the wall. This is just another way to look at the album.

i think my favorite concept album as a concept album is probably thick as a brick. great album!

I love all concept albums...as well as instrumental songs and some rock operas. Ive never heard thick as a brick, but have heard nothin bu good about it.

And i found this cool link of George Harrison playing a rare song 'in my little snapshot album'. I think its one of, or THE only recording of him playing it, since some guy in the audience at some festival had a tape recorder with hi, (you can imagine how bad the quality is). He playing it on his Banjo Ukalaly (sp?), and even forgot some of the words. For anyone interested, ill be posting it in the official beatles thread soon.

let us know when u do

It's up

and Dial-up modem friendly :)

Bonzo, you're a fan of The Band right? Should I get Music from Big Pink or s/t first?

sweet i'll go check it out

[QUOTE=wanton]Bonzo, you're a fan of The Band right? Should I get Music from Big Pink or s/t first?[/QUOTE]

music from big pink (if you want studio)
or
the last waltz (If you want live)

[QUOTE=Distant Echoes]I love all concept albums...as well as instrumental songs and some rock operas. Ive never heard thick as a brick, but have heard nothin bu good about it.

And i found this cool link of George Harrison playing a rare song 'in my little snapshot album'. I think its one of, or THE only recording of him playing it, since some guy in the audience at some festival had a tape recorder with hi, (you can imagine how bad the quality is). He playing it on his Banjo [B]Ukalaly [/B] (sp?), and even forgot some of the words. For anyone interested, ill be posting it in the official beatles thread soon.[/QUOTE]
Bitchin'
PS:I think it's "ukulele"

First, the idea of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is not John's, it's Paul. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, With a Little Help From My Friends and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Reprise are all Paul's work. A Day in The Life is the only one that can fit into the concept album category that John wrote, and the middle part was writtened by Paul. This is Paul's baby, he thinks it's the best darn thing he has ever done.

But you see, Sgt Pepper's is considered the first concept album because before that there was nothing like it. They didn't sat down and said "Hey guys, let's make a concept album!" The term concept album came after Pepper was released. It's not really a concept album, but the bluprint of one. The only thing that has the concept album feel are the songs I mentioned above. The other tracks in the album could have as easily appeared on the White Album or any other.

Oh, and pigsonthewing82, what about Within You, Without You? What role those that song play on the Billy Shears story?

[QUOTE=wanton]Bonzo, you're a fan of The Band right? Should I get Music from Big Pink or s/t first?[/QUOTE]

Music From the Big Pink first. S/t also rules, so get both eventually. And The Last Waltz is an amazing DVD, so you might want to check that out. (like B0nz0 said.)


Is anybody else disappointed with the results for the 100 Greatest Guitarist nominations?

[QUOTE=slowhand]First, the idea of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is not John's, it's Paul. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, With a Little Help From My Friends and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Reprise are all Paul's work. A Day in The Life is the only one that can fit into the concept album category that John wrote, and the middle part was writtened by Paul. This is Paul's baby, he thinks it's the best darn thing he has ever done.

But you see, Sgt Pepper's is considered the first concept album because before that there was nothing like it. They didn't sat down and said "Hey guys, let's make a concept album!" The term concept album came after Pepper was released. It's not really a concept album, but the bluprint of one. The only thing that has the concept album feel are the songs I mentioned above. The other tracks in the album could have as easily appeared on the White Album or any other.

Oh, and pigsonthewing82, what about Within You, Without You? What role those that song play on the Billy Shears story?[/QUOTE]

I never really thought of the Billy Shears story. I always thought it was just the Beatles posing as "The Lonely Hearts Club Band" and they're playing a show.

Oh, can the "bad news" in A Day in the Life mean Billy's suicide?

Me = Confused

[QUOTE=magicbus]Is anybody else disappointed with the results for the 100 Greatest Guitarist nominations?[/QUOTE]
yes. im also disappointed that so many people think [B]DONT[/B] think hendrix is up there. its greatest. not top 100 shredders/technical virtuosos. jeff beck really should win though. and im disappointed that t bone walker wasnt up there. but not really surprised.

I'm kinda disspaointed in the results too. But, many people adore Hendrix blindly, so what can you do.

I'm not gonna vote for him when the polls are up, but I think he'll get first place though...

[QUOTE=slowhand]I'm kinda disspaointed in the results too. But, many people adore Hendrix blindly, so what can you do.

I'm not gonna vote for him when the polls are up, but I think he'll get first place though...[/QUOTE]

Either him or Page

Who recieved #1 in the Rolling Stone list? Wasn't it like Cobain or something?

[QUOTE=Walrus Gumboot]Either him or Page

Who recieved #1 in the Rolling Stone list? Wasn't it like Cobain or something?[/QUOTE]

Hendrix.

As usual.

Hendrix won. I also think he should have one. I'll be voting Gilmour, Hendrix and Neil. All the way through.

I'll be voting Gilmour, Clapton and of course, props to Harrison who got on the list.

... Lennon didn't.

Anyone notice "John Cipollina-7"?

[QUOTE=slowhand]I'll be voting Gilmour, Clapton and of course, props to Harrison who got on the list.

... Lennon didn't.[/QUOTE]

Well, Harrison WAS the lead guitar player.

But Lennon is still a guitar player. Syd Barrett made the list and he only play on one album. Lennon did some of the solos in the Beatles records too, and well.. he plays the guitar too.

Edit: Well.. he did appeared on A Saucerfull of Secrets and has two solo albums... but people know more of him by PATGOD, and if I'm not mistaken, he didn't play on ASOFS, but he told Gilmour how to play his parts.

i have eric clapton and the yardbirds on record,is that worth alot of money?i also have 3 diffrent lynyrd skynyrd albums,and a bunch more,you name it i got it

[QUOTE=Schyma]Anyone notice "John Cipollina-7"?[/QUOTE]
Sure did.