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hetfieldfan86 09-24-2005 10:42 PM

Uhhh guys isn't this talk that would be better suited for that new Mega Vs "taliica thread?? just a thought. but since its the subject, Hammett has more interesting solos and riffs period. People always mention how hangar 18 has like 11 solos. but pesonally i think there all lackluster and not all that memorable....i can usually recall and sometimes play most Hammett solos from any song that has one. I'm not sayin hes better than Freidman I just think he wrote better stuff.

heavy metal kid 09-24-2005 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Better solos is pushing it, Fade to Black is the best solo I've ever heard (we're talking about all sorts of categories, not just speed)[/QUOTE]

i wasn't talking also about solos with speed, RIP has more difficult solos and more technical riffs, not just an abuse on powerchords.

i forgot to add that metallica had the :thumb: on instrumentals.

I'm a fan of both bands, in fact i like more metallica, but i really think RIP i s better than all the metallica work, i think you get the same response of someone who like both bands for their music and not for their personal issues.

Joe 09-24-2005 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=hetfieldfan86]Uhhh guys isn't this talk that would be better suited for that new Mega Vs "taliica thread?? just a thought. but since its the subject, Hammett has more interesting solos and riffs period. People always mention how hangar 18 has like 11 solos. but pesonally i think there all lackluster and not all that memorable....i can usually recall and sometimes play most Hammett solos from any song that has one. I'm not sayin hes better than Freidman I just think he wrote better stuff.[/QUOTE]

No because that thread is completely illegal and the way it works now is that people that talk in illegal threads get banned, but that hasn't been enforced too much. The thread will be closed soon and the threadstarter will be banned

And yes, Hanger 18 definitely does not have 11 solos, and if it did then it would be more 5 minute song.

[QUOTE]I'm a fan of both bands, in fact i like more metallica, but i really think RIP i s better than all the metallica work, i think you get the same response of someone who like both bands for their music and not for their personal issues.[/QUOTE]

Well that's your opinion. I'm a fan of both but disagree :thumb:

Apocalyptic Raids 09-24-2005 10:48 PM

Megadeth certainly had better solos. Hammett's are all so similar.

I never saw the attraction of RTL. Give me Justice and Puppets anyday.

Chu 09-25-2005 03:57 AM

RTL > SFSGSW > RIP > KeA > NLTL > PM > MoP > *

Done ^_^;

Apocalyptic Raids 09-25-2005 04:12 AM

RIP > PSBWB > SFSGSW > MOP > KIMB > AJFA > KEA > RTL

Take that :p

Jev 09-25-2005 04:21 AM

KIMB is not better than RTL or MOP.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-25-2005 04:44 AM

Yes it is.

White Ninja says so.

Jev 09-25-2005 04:48 AM

KIMB lacks quite a lot, it has no ballads and the solos are just as fast as they can be. MOP and RTL have ballads and melodic solos. Don't get me wrong though, I love KIMB.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-25-2005 04:55 AM

What it lacks in polish, it makes up for in raw energy.

Chu 09-25-2005 06:20 AM

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids]RIP > PSBWB > SFSGSW > MOP > KIMB > AJFA > KEA > RTL

Take that :p[/QUOTE]
:evil: :angry:
I should hurt you now.

Apocalyptic Raids 09-25-2005 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]:evil: :angry:
I should hurt you now.[/QUOTE]
I eat all competition.

Chu 09-25-2005 07:25 AM

You're right!
I really have nothing to reply :p

But ahh.. Go read the sort of 'Featured Artist' on Burton found [url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395103]here[/url].

Blernster 09-25-2005 07:40 AM

[QUOTE=Joe]
And yes, Hanger 18 definitely does not have 11 solos, and if it did then it would be more 5 minute song.
[/QUOTE]

it actually does have 11 solos they are just like 10 seconds long

Joe 09-25-2005 08:14 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]You're right!
I really have nothing to reply :p

But ahh.. Go read the sort of 'Featured Artist' on Burton found [url=http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395103]here[/url].[/QUOTE]

Ah, very good :thumb:

[QUOTE]it actually does have 11 solos they are just like 10 seconds long[/QUOTE]

last time I said that it didn't before i heard the song someone said they were full out 30sec-1min solos, he or she is obviously wrong.

I would say a song is amazing because it has 11 solos that last a few seconds

oh man I'm completely blanking on what KIMB stands for... (I don't actually have it, so you can't reeeeeeeeally blame me.) But I like RTL better any day because the solos are perfect. They're not just based on speed, but they fit the song and can be fast when needed

Chu 09-25-2005 08:18 AM

Killing is my business... And business is good \m/

I have a feeling you might really like bits of KIMB (In particular Looking Down The Cross), and the whole SFSGSW album.

By the way, I didn't notice your name change until just then :p
When did you get it changed?

Joe 09-25-2005 08:30 AM

[QUOTE=Chu]Killing is my business... And business is good \m/

I have a feeling you might really like bits of KIMB (In particular Looking Down The Cross), and the whole SFSGSW album.

By the way, I didn't notice your name change until just then :p
When did you get it changed?[/QUOTE]

Ah, that's right. I probably will, I only like bits of the RIP album.

And yea, last night :D

clairvoyant 09-25-2005 09:02 AM

1988 and before Metallica was better than Megadeth in my opinion. But since 1990 Megadeth has completely steamrolled Metallica.

Joe 09-25-2005 09:04 AM

[QUOTE=clairvoyant]1991 and before Metallica was better than Megadeth in my opinion. But since 1992 Megadeth has completely steamrolled Metallica.[/QUOTE]

fix'd

clairvoyant 09-25-2005 09:13 AM

Black Album better than Rust In Peace?

I disagree!

fatbandit 09-25-2005 09:19 AM

To whoever said the bass was better in Metallica than Megadeth, I can honestly say that Ellefson on RIP probably outplays Burton consistently. I don't know if Ellefson could have done Anaesthesia style solos (which a lot of people hate anyway), but his work on the songs was far more interesting.

:smash:

clairvoyant 09-25-2005 09:26 AM

I dunno I kinda disagree with that, Ellefson never really did that many interesting basslines in Megadeth.

However his bassline in the first half of My Last Words is freakin awesome.

fatbandit 09-25-2005 09:32 AM

I think his basslines are more interesting than anything Cliff did in songs really (with the possible exception of the solo in Orion. No, not the interlude one. The actual solo).

Five Magics, My Last Words, Take No Prisoners... All quality Ellefson stuff. He is one of the few pick players with taste IMO.

:smash:

Jev 09-25-2005 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=clairvoyant]Black Album better than Rust In Peace?

I disagree![/QUOTE]
Same here. RIP is like 10 Black Albums.

Avellin 09-25-2005 09:54 AM

What made the Black Album so good was its time of release. The whole Madison Square Guarden thing helped 'em and hurt 'em. Musically, it was ridiculed because of NEM, mainly, but there was stuff with Unforgiven that people didn't like. And in place of the hardcore thrash guys they lost, they picked lots and lots of chicks(Lars:15,000 chick to 50 guys!, quote from Year and a Half Pt.2) and got some newer metal fans in. It was the start of Metallica's decline, in a way. The Black Album's tours, cause there wasn't just one big *** world tour like alot of people see it, took it out of 'em, ALOT. With Load and Reload they had almost completely different musical views. Then there was the Napster thing, that lost them a large number of fans, there were people that would gather just to shred Metallica albums to pieces. St. Anger is by far the worst choice they could have made. A nu-metal Metallica is almost scary, plus the sound quality wasn't nearly as good as even Kill 'Em All(now yes, Kill 'Em All had bad quality compared to others but still). Listen to Sekk & Destroy, very carefully, after Jaymz starts the rhythm. Just before Kirk comes in you can hear Lars sticks clicking together.

Jev 09-25-2005 09:57 AM

You can hear James hit a wrong not in TFHM near the start it sounds like a muted e string.

Thor 09-25-2005 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=Happy]You can hear James hit a wrong not in TFHM near the start it sounds like a muted e string.[/QUOTE]
I'm listening to it now, sounds fine to me.

HNLzero 09-25-2005 10:48 AM

What song is TFHM?

Thor 09-25-2005 10:49 AM

The Four Horsemen.

HNLzero 09-25-2005 10:50 AM

Silly me.

Metallion#666 09-25-2005 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=Happy]Same here. RIP is like 10 Black Albums.[/QUOTE]

RIP is like 10 gazillion black albums.
Am I the only one who thinks Peace sells is better than ride the lightning?

Thor 09-25-2005 10:57 AM

[QUOTE=Metallion#666]RIP is like 10 gazillion black albums.
Am I the only one who thinks Peace sells is better than ride the lightning?[/QUOTE]
I would hope so. Ride the Lightning was a ****ing metal masterpiece.

Jev 09-25-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=Metallion#666]RIP is like 10 gazillion black albums.
Am I the only one who thinks Peace sells is better than ride the lightning?[/QUOTE]
I thought PSBWB was rather overrated when I got it I was like meh...

Metallion#666 09-25-2005 11:05 AM

I dont it has peace sells, wake up dead, good mourning, and the conjuring on it. All bad a s s songs. My freind disided he hates metallica, and loves megadeth. I mean, i dont hate metallica, i actually like them, i just think megadeth is better/more talented.

Jev 09-25-2005 11:13 AM

Of course they are but I didn't think Peace Sells was as good as people had said.

clairvoyant 09-25-2005 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=Happy]I thought PSBWB was rather overrated when I got it I was like meh...[/QUOTE]

Thats what I thought until I heard the remastered version.

It makes you love the album alot more.

Metallion#666 09-25-2005 11:36 AM

Yeah. I love the re-master of wake up dead.

PepsiMetal 09-25-2005 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Metallion#666]RIP is like 10 gazillion black albums.
Am I the only one who thinks Peace sells is better than ride the lightning?[/QUOTE]

I dont think it's better than RTL at all. Although it's probably best megadeth album I've heard. Every song on ride the lightning kicks ***. Actually I dont think there is any thrash album I'd like more than RTL. \m/

Joe 09-25-2005 01:06 PM

[QUOTE=Metal_Head_617]I would hope so. Ride the Lightning was a ****ing metal masterpiece.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]I dont it has peace sells, wake up dead, good mourning, and the conjuring on it. All bad a s s songs. My freind disided he hates metallica, and loves megadeth. I mean, i dont hate metallica, i actually like them, i just think megadeth is better/more talented.[/QUOTE]

I can write a response to that in 25 words...































































[QUOTE]Fight Fire with Fire Ride the Lightning For Whom the Bell Tolls Fade to Black Trapped Under Ice Escape Creeping Death Call of the Ktulu[/QUOTE]






ok, done. Yes, I do like Megadeth and I do want PSBWB, but what I've heard RTL is no doubt better IMO

metalhead_matt 09-25-2005 01:09 PM

ride the lightning is an awesome album. every song is excellent. Ive got the Rust In Peace album, and i like it, but mustaines voice grates after a while


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