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HeLLmO 01-21-2006 11:33 AM

well, if u want to keep in zildjian then i'd definatly say oriental trash, but if u decide to stop being a brand whore then go Sabian AAXplosion

ComicalMischief 01-21-2006 01:26 PM

Actually...you know, this question has itched at me for a little while..

Why are they called china [B]boys[/B]?

chewaz 01-21-2006 02:03 PM

because it's a from china? O.O or it's like a smaller version of a chinese gong, bing chinas sound "gongy"

saars 01-21-2006 07:21 PM

to me, the oriental china sounds too trashy... and so does the a custom... but hey, that's just me.



anyways, I saved up about 240 USD and I'm looking to replace my 14" ZXT crash. I want a crash that is a bit dark, but not that light sounding. I'm going along the lines of sabian, zildjian, and paiste cause that's what my local GC carries. In zildjian, I'm looking at a 17" or higher A custom projection crash. In sabian, I'm looking at a paragon crash. I haven't looked much at paiste, so I can't say anything there. Those two cymbals are just what matched my taste, but if you have any more suggestions, throw em at me. Oh, I'm also looking for a good sounding splash. I played an a zildjian 10" splash. It sounded wonderful.


P.S. I play alternative rock and jazz.

Tim 01-21-2006 07:44 PM

Might want to look into an HHX stage crash. those are awesome.

Time 01-21-2006 08:13 PM

first of all, i have a 16" sabian XS20 medium thin crash, i was wondering what peoples opinions on that were. also, i want a durable ride for all types of rock, i like zildjian but i could handle other companies.

Tim 01-21-2006 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=kingofthedrums22]first of all, i have a 16" sabian XS20 medium thin crash, i was wondering what peoples opinions on that were. also, i want a durable ride for all types of rock, i like zildjian but i could handle other companies.[/QUOTE]

i dont really like anything from the xs20 line. I like the b8 pros better. Im sure its good though, nothing wrong with that crash. As far as rides go, look into a Sabian A rock ride, good for rock and other music too.

Tim 01-21-2006 09:05 PM

I didnt want to start a whole thread on this so i decided to put this in here seeing how it is the cymbal thread. Ive narrowed my ride choices down to 4 different rides. Its gonna be tough. THey are all sabian because sabian is way cheaper here than zildjians. Zildjians here are stupid expensive. Ride List:

HHX groove ride
HH Rock ride
HH Heavy Ride
AA Rock ride

cole363636 01-21-2006 09:35 PM

i want to buy some cymbals, what shpuld i buy. name and kind?:confused:

cole363636 01-21-2006 09:36 PM

*Bump*

saars 01-21-2006 09:39 PM

um... why the hell do you bump a sticky?! and you bumped 1 minute after you posted. =/



anyways, the next time i go to GC, i shall try to use my ear to get the best crash. any more suggestions? also, any more suggestions to buying a splash?

ComicalMischief 01-21-2006 11:27 PM

[QUOTE=chewaz]because it's a from china? O.O or it's like a smaller version of a chinese gong, bing chinas sound "gongy"[/QUOTE]

Yeah...I was asking about the "boys" part. I've heard people say stuff about their "china boys" and I never understood what they ment.


PS. Anyone know where I can order Stagg cymbals online?

Maggot Dream 01-22-2006 12:21 AM

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]I didnt want to start a whole thread on this so i decided to put this in here seeing how it is the cymbal thread. Ive narrowed my ride choices down to 4 different rides. Its gonna be tough. THey are all sabian because sabian is way cheaper here than zildjians. Zildjians here are stupid expensive. Ride List:

HHX groove ride
HH Rock ride
HH Heavy Ride
AA Rock ride[/QUOTE]
I have the HH Rock Ride 20". I like it alot. Very clear sticking, and the bell is beautiful.

chewaz 01-22-2006 01:18 AM

[QUOTE=forgottenDRUMMER]I didnt want to start a whole thread on this so i decided to put this in here seeing how it is the cymbal thread. Ive narrowed my ride choices down to 4 different rides. Its gonna be tough. THey are all sabian because sabian is way cheaper here than zildjians. Zildjians here are stupid expensive. Ride List:

HHX groove ride
HH Rock ride
HH Heavy Ride
AA Rock ride[/QUOTE]

I just tried the 21" AA Rock ride trad, and I love it, Rock crashes, rides and hats sound better in traditional finish!! well almost all cymbals, i really want to try out the 22" HH heavy ride, do you have specs on the sound?

FL3P 01-22-2006 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=ComicalMischief]Actually...you know, this question has itched at me for a little while..

Why are they called china [B]boys[/B]?[/QUOTE]

They took the "boy" part out of the names.

Bloodlust 01-22-2006 12:22 PM

Hey guys, I am looking for the equvilent(sp?) of Zildjian Mastersounds in Sabian. I like the sound of the Mastersounds, but i can't really afford them, and i know that Sabian is generally a little cheaper. I was looking at the AAX stage hats. Any Avise??

Maggot Dream 01-22-2006 12:23 PM

[QUOTE=Dookie56]Hey guys, I am looking for the equvilent(sp?) of Zildjian Mastersounds in Sabian. I like the sound of the Mastersounds, but i can't really afford them, and i know that Sabian is generally a little cheaper. I was looking at the AAX stage hats. Any Avise??[/QUOTE]
Try HHX Groove Hats. They're amazing. I'm not sure about the price though. If you want that quality, you might have to dish out a little more for it.

Drum Phil 01-22-2006 12:26 PM

AAXcellerator hats

KK2K5 01-22-2006 12:55 PM

Do you guys think Stagg DH's are better than the price you pay for them?

Drum Phil 01-22-2006 01:09 PM

Yes.

Plan B. 01-22-2006 02:26 PM

GUYS!!!

Somebody's got to get ontop of these posts! Many people are going unanswered here. I put my time in two years ago when I was more active. Right now there's noone, we must pass the cymbal knowledge torch.

Heimir-iceland 01-22-2006 04:02 PM

Okay i whod lika a metal/rock sound ?

Tim 01-22-2006 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=Heimir-iceland]Okay i whod lika a metal/rock sound ?[/QUOTE]

in what cymbal(s)? hats?crash?ride?china?splash? what? budget would help too

CasB 01-22-2006 04:24 PM

Man...You can use every cymbal you want....it's just a matter of the sound _you_ like...there is no "this cymbal is for that music".

Listen to cymbals and if you like them, buy them.

Bullet for My Valentine 01-22-2006 05:11 PM

hey im looking to upgrade my cymbals i have shoddy paiste 101 zlidjian zxt and solars :mad: i was wonderin if i should get a sabian xs20 cymbal pack?? or just casually build them up ?? is there anything alot better than there price as im on quite a tight budget:rolleyes: cheers in advance guys

Drum Phil 01-22-2006 05:13 PM

Go for pro-line. Dont go lower than AA

Tim 01-22-2006 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=Bullet for My Valentine]hey im looking to upgrade my cymbals i have shoddy paiste 101 zlidjian zxt and solars :mad: i was wonderin if i should get a sabian xs20 cymbal pack?? or just casually build them up ?? is there anything alot better than there price as im on quite a tight budget:rolleyes: cheers in advance guys[/QUOTE]

instead of getting a whole pack jsut get some pro hihats and a crash or ride.

Bullet for My Valentine 01-22-2006 05:24 PM

yeh i fort i would be better to upgrade gradually.. im looking into the aax and the others in the same price range.. thanks

DuckinFutch 01-22-2006 05:30 PM

hey, the wuhans on mf, are those the s traditional splashes?

it just says "wuhan splash" or something like that...

Drum Phil 01-22-2006 05:33 PM

I'd assume it was traditional

ludvista29 01-22-2006 05:41 PM

i was looking at the AAX 10in splash...What do u guys think about it?

metal sh*t 01-22-2006 05:53 PM

Well im planning on getting a new ride, the stock i have is in pretty bad shape. I was thinking of a, i think, its a 20' Zildjian dark ride.

So if any of you has it can you tell how is it? Sounds?

FL3P 01-22-2006 05:55 PM

You guys all need to go hear the soundclips on the company websites first and compare and then ask anything that you cant get there.

ludvista29 01-22-2006 06:07 PM

I heard the AAX 10in splash in person, i want to know how versitle it is.

Tim 01-22-2006 06:49 PM

[QUOTE=ludvista29]I heard the AAX 10in splash in person, i want to know how versitle it is.[/QUOTE]

AA splashes are more versatile.

ludvista29 01-22-2006 06:58 PM

how much is a 10in of an AA?

chewaz 01-22-2006 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=ludvista29]I heard the AAX 10in splash in person, i want to know how versitle it is.[/QUOTE]

mmm,nah, AAX splashes (8" specially) arent as loud and as versatile as an AA, AA's are the only way to go, i'ma a AA bitch, AA for the world, AA for president, it sucks that there is no AA-xcelerator or HH-xcelerator :(:( me sad

Tim 01-22-2006 08:27 PM

If you want a great effects cymbal go for the 13inch b8pro thin crashes. those things are awesome.

Chester 01-23-2006 08:13 AM

haha, it just sounds funny calling a crash an effects cymbal, but thats basically what it would be

ant_182 01-23-2006 10:39 AM

Hey, does anyone know what Zildjians 14" mastersound hats sound like? and if there is anywhere that sells cheapest in UK? And also 21" Sweet Ride (Brilliant)? Thanks in advance


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