[QUOTE=shane italian]And so are Level Plane bands.
:)[/QUOTE]

True.

Can't deny the power of LickGoldenSky, though.

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]I like the bad metalcore too, just real metalcore is alot better.

Love is Red is horrible on CD, but good live. I've seen them twice.[/QUOTE]

I think they are touring with Strung Out and Saosin in November. I don't think I'll be able to go though.

[QUOTE=tornpictures]There are a couple of different 'hardcore' scenes.
One sprang from the DC hardcore/emo/'screamo' scene and now features stuff like Yaphet Kotto, etc.. more screamo-ish bands.. Based on DIY ethics, labels: Ebullition, Level Plane, Mountain, Hand.Held.Heart, Witching Hour.
Lyrics about politics/ personal issues.[/quote] All I have to say is...NO!

[quote]The other one is more CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA, with barrels, sing-alongs, mosh pits. Bands include The Dead Scenestars, maybe Blood for Blood etc.
Kind of straight-edge-ish stuff. Lyrics are about being stabbed in the back by friends, mostly.[/quote]Blood for Blood aren't Chugga band, I don't know how you got the idea.

[quote]There's also the 'commercial' hardcore on Victory and Revelation records, but I'm not going to go into that too much.. they act like major lables, but try to keep their image 'true' and 'hardcore.' As if we're falling for that, hah!
[/QUOTE]And this is the biggie. You, my friend, must be an idiot.

Revelation contributed and still contributes to the hardcore scene. Ever heard of Judge, Bold, Fastbreak, or Gorilla Biscuits?

Victory Records may have Taking Back Sunday and Darkest Hour, but they helped keep hardcore alive. Reach The Sky, Bad Brains, Blood For Blood, A:18, NIV, Buried Alive...etc.

You didn't clear s'hit up.

They used to be big in the hardcore scene, putting out good stuff, etc.

Nowadays, they ain't ****. Totally played out.

I never said Blood for Blood were a 'chugga band,' I said maybe, and MORE chugga.

And what's the 'NO!' about in the top?

[QUOTE=tornpictures]They used to be big in the hardcore scene, putting out good stuff, etc.

Nowadays, they ain't ****. Totally played out.

I never said Blood for Blood were a 'chugga band,' I said maybe, and MORE chugga.

And what's the 'NO!' about in the top?[/QUOTE]The first paragraph had bands and labels that have nothing to do with hardcore.

Hahaha!

Go give yourself a big high five, because you just made yourself look like a complete idiot!

[QUOTE=tornpictures]Hahaha!

Go give yourself a big high five, because you just made yourself look like a complete idiot![/QUOTE]Really now, I don't know of one band in that paragraph you mentioned that embodies the hardcor spirit.

Please go on, and listen to your pretentions Level Plane bands.

tornpictures is really annoying

Yeah he is annoying, I dont understand whats wrong with level plan :upset:

[QUOTE=Gotkookie]Yeah he is annoying, I dont understand whats wrong with level plan :upset:[/QUOTE]Nothing is wrong with Level Plane actually. They just aren't hawdcowa.

[QUOTE=shane italian]Nothing is wrong with Level Plane actually. They just aren't hawdcowa.[/QUOTE]
yeah, not hardcore, I like them though. :cool:

Level Plane is one of the greatest labels out there. tornpictures is getting on my nerves. He kinda reminds me of someone...

(DeadTommorrow)

Last night at Deftones I got a pleasant surprise. Dredg!

[QUOTE=40_oz_2_freedom]Last night at Deftones I got a pleasant surprise. Dredg![/QUOTE]

Dredg?!?!

/jealous

I'm so digging Goodfellow Records' bands.

Yeah, I had no idea they were gonna play.

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Poison The Well- [I]Tear From The Red[/I]

If anyone cares.

Saturday November 20th
@ the Bloomfield Ave Cafe
in Montclair NJ

MENTAL
BLACKLISTED
RIGHTEOUS JAMS
GET REAL
IRON BOOTS
LITTLE RASCALS
COLD WORLD

Cold War are playing on Halloween with Terror, Day Of Contempt, It Dies Today, Donnybrook, and Martyr AD.

And Novembver 6th is:
100 Demons
Cast Aside
Everyman 4 Himself
Life And Death
Donnybrook

And most of you know about the show about to grace me in a week.

[QUOTE=shane italian]Cold War are playing on Halloween with Terror, Day Of Contempt, It Dies Today, Donnybrook, and Martyr AD.

And Novembver 6th is:
100 Demons
Cast Aside
Everyman 4 Himself
Life And Death
Donnybrook

And most of you know about the show about to grace me in a week.[/QUOTE]

Duuuude.

Call me a gay, but I'm debating skipping on the Terror Halloween show for the Poison the Well Halloween show... and skipping 100 Demons for Neurosis.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Duuuude.

Call me a gay, but I'm debating skipping on the Terror Halloween show for the Poison the Well Halloween show... and skipping 100 Demons for Neurosis.[/QUOTE]I won't be at Terror. My mom wants me to goto my aunt's for halloween. But I have enough shows to please me.

*just read up on todays posts*

Hahaha, you guys are such di[font=verdana]c[/font]ks. tornpictures was all nice and humble about his opinions and then he got torn apart.

The man said Revelation and Victory basically suck. He had it coming.

Eh, I don't know, something about him. He seemed too kind.

[QUOTE=tornpictures]Hahaha!

Go give yourself a big high five, because you just made yourself look like a complete idiot![/QUOTE]I was expecting "Yess'm"

What about Rites Of Spring? They were hardcore, but responsible for the emo genre too

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Call me a gay, but I'm debating skipping on the Terror Halloween show for the Poison the Well Halloween show[/QUOTE]

Do it.

Everyone likes Victory and Revelation here?

****.

Their ethics just plain suck.. remember what Victory did to Thursday a while ago??

To all you fashionxcore kids (you know who you are.).. I reckon I've been in the scene 5+ years longer than you have, so shut the **** up, I've dealt with your type before.
'Oh yeah totally, I know what screamo is, you don't.' **** you.

Next month you'll be wearing scarves and listening to shoegaze or some ****.

Victory didn't ruin Thursday. Island did.

[QUOTE=tornpictures]Everyone likes Victory and Revelation here?

****.

Their ethics just plain suck.. remember what Victory did to Thursday a while ago??

To all you fashionxcore kids (you know who you are.).. I reckon I've been in the scene 5+ years longer than you have, so shut the **** up, I've dealt with your type before.
'Oh yeah totally, I know what screamo is, you don't.' **** you.

Next month you'll be wearing scarves and listening to shoegaze or some ****.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Victory isn't all that great now. But they still put out some good stuff (A:18, Hoods, Blood For Blood...). But Revelation still keeps me happy.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]Victory didn't ruin Thursday. Island did.[/QUOTE]

Thats correct.

Victory was home to Earth Crisis, how much hardcore can you get?

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]Victory was home to Earth Crisis, how much hardcore can you get?[/QUOTE]

Yes yes, true.

and ALL OUT WAR.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez24]Victory didn't ruin Thursday. Island did.[/QUOTE]

That's not what I'm talking about.

Victory put some 'fine text' in the contract (I think 'signing' bands in hardcore is ****ing stupid, but that's beside the point) that if they left Victory, they'd have to leave for a bigger label. THat's ****ed up.


And Earth Crisis ****ing SUCK.
"How much more hardcore can you get" what the **** man, you don't know ****.

thursday signed it, their fault

It's just one of those stupid "No, we don't want you to go" things.

Anyway, to change the discussion: What do you think of 'signing' bands to a label in punk rock / hardcore?

[QUOTE=tornpictures]That's not what I'm talking about.

Victory put some 'fine text' in the contract (I think 'signing' bands in hardcore is ****ing stupid, but that's beside the point) that if they left Victory, they'd have to leave for a bigger label. THat's ****ed up.


And Earth Crisis ****ing SUCK.
"How much more hardcore can you get" what the **** man, you don't know ****.[/QUOTE]Sounds like that whole ordeal is Thursday's fault for leaving.

And "signing" bands in hardcore is not stupid. Look at Revelation, Indecision, Bridge Nine, Deathwish, Facedown, Thorp, etc.

all that matters is that Thursday didnt break up

[QUOTE=tornpictures]And Earth Crisis ****ing SUCK.
"How much more hardcore can you get" what the **** man, you don't know ****.[/QUOTE]Right.......Just because I like a band, I don't know ****.

Signing bands with contracts has no place in hardcore. Hardcore is a counter-culture, and what's the point of a counter-culture if it's just a mirror of the culture it's resisting?

Hardcore is against capitalism etc, well signing contracts is to keep a band on your label TO MAKE MORE MONEY, obviously.