Nice one! How much did you get if for?

Right, which two would you prefer-

17" A Custom Medium Crash and 20" A Custom Ping Ride
or
17" K Custom Fast Crash and 20" K Custom Session Ride

£90. Seemed underpriced to be honest. They also had the 19" for £110, which I really wanted too, but I couldn't afford them both, and I think 18" is a more sensible option for a primary crash.

Both were returned after a death metal drummer decided they didn't fit in with his other cymbals. His loss. My gain. Awesome condition too.

And my personal choice would be the A customs, but thats probably just me personally, I think the A custom ping ride is an excellent ride.

[QUOTE=Postman Pie]£90. Seemed underpriced to be honest. They also had the 19" for £110, which I really wanted too, but I couldn't afford them both, and I think 18" is a more sensible option for a primary crash.

Both were returned after a death metal drummer decided they didn't fit in with his other cymbals. His loss. My gain. Awesome condition too.

And my personal choice would be the A customs, but thats probably just me personally, I think the A custom ping ride is an excellent ride.[/QUOTE]

which music shop do you use fellow lincsian?

:D Electromusic, in Doncaster, its the closest to me, about 45 minutes in the car. The customer service there is absolutely incredible, they know what they're talking about, and very honest.

Theres also Rock Factory in Castleford I've been to a couple of times, but the staff are very unhelpful, and you can only have a quiet tap on the cymbals on their display stand, as opposed to Electromusic sitting me down at a kit and bringing me a selection of cymbals they thought were suitable for the music I played.

I live in Sc[I][/I]unthorpe, in North Lincolnshire, which is 38 miles from Louth, where you live.

agh! you know where i live! oh , quite a way then, i choose to visit music makers in lincoln, which is a good shop but overpriced.

Bloody swear filter. Scun[COLOR="White"]thorpe[/COLOR] is my town name :p

ha! i was wondering about that, yeups i'm definatly familiar with scunny :)

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]Well if you want something dark, K hats. K Mastersounds have more articulation. A New beats are good hats for all round purposes, get them in trad not brilliant though. A Quickbeats are heavier than newbeats, and therefore have a bigger sound and a tighter "chick" sound when closed.

You try some A customs if you are looking for a bright tone, I quite like them, almost bought a pair. A custom mastersounds are bright and articulate, probably not what your looking for. You coudl try the Avedis version of them, never tried some in person, but I'm guessing they woul dhave a more natural tone than the A customs.[/QUOTE]

Ya, I was looking into New Beat hats, and ill check out the some Avedis Customs tommorrow, if at all possible, and ill try the K custom Dark Crashes to, thanks for your help guys, really aprecieate it, Jeff

No prob, have the new beats myself and I quite like them. My only complaint with mine are that they are brilliant, it just makes them too bright for what I want out of a pair of hats.

Owell, once I save up enough money I wanna deck out my set with Paistes. So glad they finally got sound clips up, I've been dying to hear what they sound like. Paiste are as rare as hen's teeth around here.

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]No prob, have the new beats myself and I quite like them. My only complaint with mine are that they are brilliant, it just makes them too bright for what I want out of a pair of hats.

Owell, once I save up enough money I wanna deck out my set with Paistes. So glad they finally got sound clips up, I've been dying to hear what they sound like. Paiste are as rare as hen's teeth around here.[/QUOTE]

haha, good luck with that lol, ya, tommorrow im going to the stores to tst some stuff out, im definatly looking at the new beats Avedis, and Ks so thanks again

I'm looking for a nice, jazzy ride (22 inch, preferably) and a quick 14 inch crash.

22 k ride is a good one

14" A fast Crash.

new cymbal
 

Alright, I've got sabian xs20 16" crash , 20" ride, then 14" hats, then AA 18" crash and hhx 14" crash. So whats next( thats a ride, splash, or crash ) im thinkin about a 8" splash. But im not too sure. And I don't need a china, so thats not what im looking for.

i would have gotten a bigger hhx. But replace the hats then the ride.

Xss already sound good so you have a pretty good set already.

First get all the basics at top of the line then start getting splashes and those kinds of things.

[QUOTE=Porkupine]I'm looking for a nice, jazzy ride (22 inch, preferably) and a quick 14 inch crash.[/QUOTE]
get the sabian artisan ride, those things are beautiful but they are hand made so you should try them out before you buy them.

A really nice 14 in crash is the k custom fast crash. It is the most perfect crash sound.

hi
i'm looking to upgrade my two old crashes with some new ones and aiming for a set thats fairly versatile. i play in a rock band but we play groovier not as full on type stuff aswell. and also playing for other people who arent rock or overly loud i cant really have a heavy cymbal thats too overbearing.
i am thinking along the lines of zildjian a medium thins 17',18' or maybe k custom dark crashes or AAX/HHX medium thins or even thins,though thin crashes i'm not sure about durability. my technique is fine enough not to break them i think,but i dont want to be scared of laying into them.
any help is much appreciated.
cheers
matt

[QUOTE=dedworx]hi
i'm looking to upgrade my two old crashes with some new ones and aiming for a set thats fairly versatile. i play in a rock band but we play groovier not as full on type stuff aswell. and also playing for other people who arent rock or overly loud i cant really have a heavy cymbal thats too overbearing.
i am thinking along the lines of zildjian a medium thins 17',18' or maybe k custom dark crashes or AAX/HHX medium thins or even thins,though thin crashes i'm not sure about durability. my technique is fine enough not to break them i think,but i dont want to be scared of laying into them.
any help is much appreciated.
cheers
matt[/QUOTE]



id look into AAX stage crash and AAXplosion crashes. also, from AA check out the medium crash and medium thin crashes. maybe like a 17 AAX stage crash with an 18 medium crash would do good.

K Customs are not versitile Cymbals, if you want a dark crash, keep out hte K dark crashes, or dark medium thins. Could also try some A crashes, perhaps the thins and medium thins.

[QUOTE=Porkupine]I'm looking for a nice, jazzy ride (22 inch, preferably) and a quick 14 inch crash.[/QUOTE]I would look at various HHX, K, and K Custom rides. They all have rides with dark sounds, articulate ping, and warm undertones. Perfect for jazz imo.

[QUOTE=poppinfresh]get the sabian artisan ride, those things are beautiful but they are hand made so you should try them out before you buy them.[/QUOTE]Artisans are on par with Paiste Signature rides in price from what I've seen though, which is pricy!

[QUOTE=dedworx]hi
i'm looking to upgrade my two old crashes with some new ones and aiming for a set thats fairly versatile. i play in a rock band but we play groovier not as full on type stuff aswell. and also playing for other people who arent rock or overly loud i cant really have a heavy cymbal thats too overbearing.[/QUOTE]I would get an A Medium Thin crash and a K Dark Crash Medium Thin. They contrast each other well, they are a versatile weight, and give you two distinct tones, one bright, one dark.

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]No prob, have the new beats myself and I quite like them. My only complaint with mine are that they are brilliant, it just makes them too bright for what I want out of a pair of hats.[/QUOTE]Brilliant finishes make a cymbal sound darker, not brighter... not that the difference is even audible to the average person... New Beats are New Beats. If you find them too bright, it isn't because of a brilliant finish.

[QUOTE=DruMMeR_BoY14]K Customs are not versitile Cymbals, if you want a dark crash, keep out hte K dark crashes, or dark medium thins. Could also try some A crashes, perhaps the thins and medium thins.[/QUOTE]A crashes are bright. My A Medium Thin crash is bright as eff, and even the Thin crash is quite a way from being a medium tone. If you wanted a more medium tone I would go with A Customs, probably something like the A Custom regular or Fast crash, as those are thinner. I played an A Custom Fast crash for 2 years before I sold it, and it was relatively neutral tone, not too bright, not too dark.

alright, i wanna buy a couple things but these are the ones im still having issues with.
Zildjian A Series Sweet Ride or Sabian AA medium ride, i really like them both but havent pinpointed it yet..
with this next one it is more of a money issue... i was wondering how a Wuhan 18'' China compares to the Paiste 2002's and Sabian ProSonix in sound.
thanks for any help you can give.

the wuhans are gennerally darker. if you are on a budget, or like total trash, get the wuhans

as for the ride - that is the most discerning sound to anyone. both are quite versatile, with the AA Medium having a tad more definition. play both carefully, and see which you like more

myself, i'd take the Medium, as its a bit more balanced

well their aare also only 6 artisan rides made a day. And they sound incredible, nothing compares, definetly worth it IMO.

Hi I would like a second crash....
it has to be dark, 17"-19" and it should blend with my 16 bosphorus trad which I love... thx

19" HHX Studio Crash

Looking for a medium bright, aggeressive, shattering and powerful. I got two in mind. The Paiste 18" 2002 Power crash or 18" 2002 Rock crash. How does that sound and what would it compare to the other brands such as Sabian or Zildjian?

18" A Custom Medium. Is pretty much exactly what you're looking for.

^^^ yeah i seccond that. its a very nice crash

I was at Long & Mcquade today and I tried a 22" Z Custom Power ride. Worst ride sound I have EVER heard. I could play with 2000 watts of guitars and 4000 watts of bass and not need that ride to cut. It was pingy, but it really roared, like *really* roared. It had a massive buildup, the ping was still sharp, but the massive roar made me want to drop that 30 pound mofo. The bell sucked too, no projection like the bow had. Anyway, I was just surprised because I hear most people say on here "Z Customs suck aside from the rides", and up until now I had only had experience with the crashes. I also tried the 19" Thrash ride... reminded me why I love A's and K's. They don't sound like crap.

I also tried a large number of K crashes, and they really have some bite to them. I think I'll have to pick some up.

The regular Z Custom ride isnt so bad but they heavier rides are all clang.

I hate the whole Z custom line exept for the splashes. Hey I just realized that I'm pretty versatile with knowledge of cymbals I know alot about every brand(exept meinl)