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Iai 05-17-2005 04:26 PM

Awesome. I keep hearing about him.

Brewer14 05-17-2005 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]White People is so great.

I am uploading a track by Busdriver for you guys, it's blowing me away right now.[/QUOTE]

Imaginary Places?

Bartender 05-17-2005 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=Iai]Awesome. I keep hearing about him.[/QUOTE]

Are you a Tony Hawks' Player?

ATM 05-17-2005 04:48 PM

[url]http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12GUGHQ3JSYJR0ZBMIW2O0I930[/url]

Brewer14 05-17-2005 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan][url]http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12GUGHQ3JSYJR0ZBMIW2O0I930[/url][/QUOTE]

aha, how did I know? :p

anyway, good song.

ATM 05-17-2005 04:55 PM

Did anyone want to hear what Necro sounds like?

Bartender 05-17-2005 04:57 PM

Yeah, I'd like to. I've looked at some reviews of his stuff, and it sounds..interesting.

Iai 05-17-2005 04:59 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Are you a Tony Hawks' Player?[/QUOTE]
Not since THPS 2.

Iai 05-17-2005 05:00 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan][url]http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=12GUGHQ3JSYJR0ZBMIW2O0I930[/url][/QUOTE]
m4a?!?!?!? :mad:

ATM 05-17-2005 05:11 PM

[url]http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TM1P9BWVZ7GY11H6SS8HPN4GB[/url]

Caution: Explicit lyrics :lol:

tehfilter 05-17-2005 05:19 PM

What about the underground **** like Necro, Jedi Mind Tricks and Louis Logic

Bartender 05-17-2005 05:31 PM

Did you read the thread at all?

ATM - Downloaded that track, but haven't listened to it yet, as I'm leaving the computer again in a minute.

tehfilter 05-17-2005 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Did you read the thread at all?

ATM - Downloaded that track, but haven't listened to it yet, as I'm leaving the computer again in a minute.[/QUOTE]
no.

Iai 05-17-2005 05:39 PM

b&.

Magicaltroll 05-17-2005 06:30 PM

Gangster's Paradise is frickin' awesome.
The only rap song I REALLY like is that^. I mean, I can listen to some rap, but not alot. Except for that song that is, it rules :thumb:

Kosta 05-17-2005 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=tehfilter]What about the underground **** like Necro, Jedi Mind Tricks and Louis Logic[/QUOTE]

All of them have been mentioned before. Jesus. Funny how you're trying to tell some users here something about underground rap.

We mentioned Necro. We mentioned JMT, and Louis Logic as well - talking about the Demigodz.

Kosta 05-17-2005 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Any Handsome Boy Modeling School fans?[/QUOTE]

Prince Paul and Dan The Automator both kick my ***. Definitely.

Their song with Encore - from Executive Lounge (great ****ing group, if you're interested in them, I can send some stuff, it's laid back west coast underground stuff, rather obscure to some) - called Waterworld is amazing.


Did anyone actually check out any mp3s that I posted?

ATM 05-17-2005 06:57 PM

I had most of them already :cool:

black\m/metal 05-17-2005 07:42 PM

I might have missed it, but for beats, I havnt seen Scott LaRock (sp?) mentioned yet-boogie down productions. And I saw Jedi Mind Tricks and they were **** good the other day. Anybody here like Doctor Octagon/Kool Keith or whatever alias you want to go by. Also has anybody ever listen to Jayo Felony?

ThePanicInNeedlePark 05-17-2005 09:00 PM

Its just "gangsta" rap which has really lost the essence of rap. No one says anything in gangster rap, its just bigging each other up...

Big-Bird 05-17-2005 09:42 PM

I love Slick Rick

Robert Crumb 05-17-2005 09:50 PM

Gang Starr. Have they been mentioned?

hatelivesforever 05-18-2005 12:32 AM

i am not gonna be mean or anything about this but i rly do think the ppl who said that rap was only singing about money women and sex and so on well they are right but i gues its a style of music and i dont think i will listen to it... i just hate it i hate their topics i wish theyd change it but otherwise like i cant say nething bad.. bye bye

ATM 05-18-2005 12:42 AM

[QUOTE=hatelivesforever]i am not gonna be mean or anything about this but i rly do think the ppl who said that rap was only singing about money women and sex and so on well they are right but i gues its a style of music and i dont think i will listen to it... i just hate it i hate their topics i wish theyd change it but otherwise like i cant say nething bad.. bye bye[/QUOTE]

:lol: You are like a walking stereotype.

Zesty Mordant 05-18-2005 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=Robert Crumb]Gang Starr. Have they been mentioned?[/QUOTE]

I don't think so but good thing you did. I don't really know much of their stuff, but I do know that "The Miltia" is fu[COLOR=White]cki[/COLOR]ng sweet.

"One of us, equals many of us/ Disrespect one of us, and you'll see plenty of us."- such a good line.

Guru's Jazzmatazz is not bad either.

Bartender 05-18-2005 04:09 AM

I just saw that in a Virgin megastore for £5 a couple of days ago. Should I buy it?

ThrashMaster27 05-18-2005 04:57 AM

Yeah, it's a good album. When I first heard No Time To Play, I picked it up.

As for Afu Ra! I like his first album, he always had something about him. His second album wasn't up to scratch though. Also looked like a guy from Oz. Anyway, he was good on the JTD albums aswell.

As for me being corrected on the issue of Groups not playing their own instruments. I'm aware of that fully and also that Rap is a HUGE sampling industry. Do I have anything else to add? Oh yeahhhh, check out Blak Twang!

krisco5387 05-18-2005 07:32 AM

Well, I must agree to a certain extent. It was all fine until you said something about African culture being related to rap. You want REAL African culture? Listen to the Blues. The Blues came out in the 1930s and was based on field and sorrow songs used to convey their saddness as they slaved away for our Caucasion race. Rap is by far NOT African-American Culture. I need to strongly disagree with that, as I just did a research paper on Jazz and it stated the thesis above. THAT'S ALL!

Iai 05-18-2005 08:48 AM

Blues became jazz, jazz became beat poetry, beat poetry became rap.

Nice try, but you fail.

IAJP 05-18-2005 11:03 AM

It annoys me how little some people know about rap.
"IT'S ALL MANUFACTURED, NO TALENT REQUIRED, *SNORT SNORT SNORT*, ALL RAPPERS ARE GAY LOL"
A lot of rap is very personal, check out Public Enemy, the best rap group of all time, (ever, no buts)

ATM 05-18-2005 12:00 PM

Who is your favorite battle rapper?

Mine is probably Copywrite. He writes such good punch lines.

Iai 05-18-2005 01:35 PM

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]It annoys me how little some people know about rap.
"IT'S ALL MANUFACTURED, NO TALENT REQUIRED, *SNORT SNORT SNORT*, ALL RAPPERS ARE GAY LOL"
A lot of rap is very personal, check out Public Enemy, the best rap group of all time, (ever, no buts)[/QUOTE]
I don't know if you could call Public Enemy 'personal'. They were way too political. Agreed about them being the best rap group ever, though.

freestyle1k86 05-18-2005 02:24 PM

AHAHAHAH, I wonder how many people here who are being polite, talked about how much they hate rap in other threads.

lobsterjohnson 05-18-2005 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]I think rap takes much talent to make and perform. It's just that I can't listen to it. I don't hate it but I would rather be listening to metal or hardcore.[/QUOTE]
id rather listen to rap than most hardcore

Robert Crumb 05-18-2005 05:42 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]I just saw that in a Virgin megastore for £5 a couple of days ago. Should I buy it?[/QUOTE]

Jazzmatazz is pretty cool, definitely worth checking out if you can get it for a reasonable price. But it's no substitute for a Gang Starr album.

Zesty Mordant 05-18-2005 06:33 PM

This is cool how the purpose of the thread has changed direction into a huge "What I've been listening to lately" for rap purposes. And the fact that its right in the middle of R&M is even cooler.

Nuke Broadcast 05-18-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=Kosta]Well, they're extremely well known in underground circles, sooo.

I like some early Necro, not much But it's quite enjoyable at times. Non-Phixion isn't bad, but msot of their stuff sounds the same and is rather tiring/generic. Not bad, though.[/QUOTE]

ive also noticed this, but i love the way they take beats from other well known songs and make their lyric magic on them.

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Necro is out of his mind.

My Sweet Dreams is my favorite track from him.

Do you like Non-Phixion?[/QUOTE]

havent really had a chance to look too much for his stuff yet, as i went after gore tex first.

Kosta 05-18-2005 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=krisco5387]Well, I must agree to a certain extent. It was all fine until you said something about African culture being related to rap. You want REAL African culture? Listen to the Blues. The Blues came out in the 1930s and was based on field and sorrow songs used to convey their saddness as they slaved away for our Caucasion race. Rap is by far NOT African-American Culture. I need to strongly disagree with that, as I just did a research paper on Jazz and it stated the thesis above. THAT'S ALL![/QUOTE]


And black culture expresses itself with hip-hop. Hip-hop is the modern day black subculture. Rap - and other elements - is used by the people that live that culture to express themselves.

If you don't think that the Black Star album is the embodiment of a culture in music. I feel sorry for you.

[QUOTE=Iai]Blues became jazz, jazz became beat poetry, beat poetry became rap.

Nice try, but you fail.[/QUOTE]


Actually.

Blues became rythm and blues. Rythm and blues became reggeae. Reggae became rap.

DJ Kool Herc was a reggae DJ before he invented hip-hop.

Rapping was around in the early 1900s when black slaves protested by rapping their protest songs. Some country singers rapped, too. It was before beat poetry.

Brewer14 05-18-2005 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=lobsterjohnson]id rather listen to rap than most hardcore[/QUOTE]

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Illmatic 05-18-2005 07:09 PM

Kosta: I'd like to think funk had some influence on rap.


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