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markhendrix 08-17-2004 05:46 AM

sounds good.
- im not much of an extreme metal guy myself, the heaviest i go is dream theater im afraid :(

Bartender 08-17-2004 05:59 AM

Well I listen to most kinds of music so I'm sure there'll be some things we agree on. I have been known to listen to Dream Theater, for example.

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 06:59 AM

I don't get Black Metal.

Bartender 08-17-2004 07:00 AM

How do you mean?

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 07:07 AM

I just woke up, it was a random comment.

I dunno what it is...I appreciate Black Metal, but I can't get into it.

Bartender 08-17-2004 07:11 AM

Well, what black metal have you heard so far?

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 07:43 AM

Dimmu Borgir, COB, Opeth...

Is there better stuff I'm missing?

Bartender 08-17-2004 07:50 AM

Well, Dimmu are at the mainstream end of symphonic black metal, and CoB play power metal, just with harsh vocals. There is a lot of other stuff out there; I don't know if you'd like it, but it's different, so should be worth checking out.

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 07:52 AM

Can you recommend something?

manuscriptreplica 08-17-2004 07:58 AM

Ooh boy...








Opeth isn't black, it's death. Progressive death at that. Children of Bodom are not a good band to represent the genre of black metal, they are probably more power metal than anything else. If you think Dimmu Borgir are good, I suggest stuff like Mayhem, Darkthrone, Bathory, Gorguts, Immortal etc etc. I'm not a big black metal head, so ask someone else.

Toozey 08-17-2004 07:59 AM

Hello, I'm Toozey I post here sometimes.

Bartender 08-17-2004 08:00 AM

[QUOTE=paranoidd]
Can you recommend something?[/QUOTE]

I could, but I'm not too hot on black metal. My black metal listening, so far anyway, spread about as far as Burzum or Immortal. For Immortal, check out anything from At The Heart of Winter - it's not ultra-raw, tr00 black metal, but it's a great album and probably a good introduction. If you want the true stuff, check out Mayhem - songs like Freezing Moon, Funeral Fog and Pure Fu[color=white]c[/color]king Armageddon.

Good symphonic black metal are bands like Emperor, and older Arcturus, but I haven't taken the time to check them out properly yet. Superpeer or Per Ardua should be along soon enough, they could give you more, and better, recommendations :)

EDIT: Good as Gorguts are, I don't think they're black metal.

Baodegoth 08-17-2004 08:01 AM

what's the biggest diference between black and death metal? i'm confused...i know what's melodic death metal...and i like some bands (at the gates is frekin awesome!) but i can't seem to "separate" black from death. n e 1?

manuscriptreplica 08-17-2004 08:01 AM

Emperor are good too, more along the lines of symphonic black metal.

manuscriptreplica 08-17-2004 08:03 AM

Baodegoth - read the very first thread entitled 'The different genres of black metal' it's right at the top of the page, you can't miss it.

Baodegoth 08-17-2004 08:06 AM

^LOL...thanks...the thing is i've already read that and still....i don't know..it's probably just me...but i'll check it again...thanks for the tip;)

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 08:08 AM

Hrmm..

I like Vader...what genre would they fall under?

Bartender 08-17-2004 08:10 AM

[QUOTE=Baodegoth]^LOL...thanks...the thing is i've already read that and still....i don't know..it's probably just me...but i'll check it again...thanks for the tip;)[/QUOTE]

If you've read it, and are still confused, downloading a few songs from each suggested band, and listening to the difference, is the way to go.

Baodegoth 08-17-2004 08:13 AM

thanks bartender i'll do that..

superpeer 08-17-2004 08:17 AM

[QUOTE=Renaissance]It's odd how this is called the "off-topic thread" and yet it's followed by "No spam allowed!". A bit hypocritical? Oh well, it's good to see one of these in here.[/QUOTE]

Aww, get out of here, you. :angry:

superpeer 08-17-2004 08:17 AM

Bartender, you've ordered 20 cd's?

And I thought my 18 was much.

irish_guitar_god 08-17-2004 08:46 AM

where the hell do you get the money to buy 20 cds, in ireland thats about 400 euro which is the equivalent of about 400 dollars.are there any cheap sites to buy cds from?

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 08:50 AM

400 Euro is more than a paycheck for me.

CD's are crazy expensive in Europe, I don't know whats up with you people.

You'd be paying around 10 euros (20 Canadian dollars) here.

Heh, try ordering from a Canadian site. Or Ebay, I get CD's really cheap there.

minnieme01 08-17-2004 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]400 Euro is more than a paycheck for me.

CD's are crazy expensive in Europe, I don't know whats up with you people.

You'd be paying around 10 euros (20 Canadian dollars) here.

Heh, try ordering from a Canadian site. Or Ebay, I get CD's really cheap there.[/QUOTE]

what canadian site can i (we) order from? is the shipping expensive?

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 09:06 AM

I don't know exactly which sites, sorry.

*shrug* I guess you could google it.

Seriously, try ebay. Alot of times you can' get CD's for less than 10 euro, with shipping. Depending where you are.

superpeer 08-17-2004 09:07 AM

I'm spending like 230 euros on my 18 cd's.

Reasonable, I think.

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=Superpeer]I'm spending like 230 euros on my 18 cd's.

Reasonable, I think.[/QUOTE]

Depends what CD's.

It could be Shakira. Who knows? :confused:

:lol:

Bartender 08-17-2004 09:13 AM

[QUOTE=irish_guitar_god]where the hell do you get the money to buy 20 cds, in ireland thats about 400 euro which is the equivalent of about 400 dollars.are there any cheap sites to buy cds from?[/QUOTE]

Well my twenty CDs are costing me about £6.66 each, because the store I was ordering from was having a sale. I just explained to my mam that the sale would run out (it ends 31st of August) before I would have any additional money, so she let me borrow money from her in advance.

superpeer 08-17-2004 09:13 AM

Nah, not shakira.

Mostly extreme metal and a No doubt cd. :o

Adam Jones is GOD 08-17-2004 09:13 AM

I spent £16 on Will Haven 'Carpe Diem' (10 tracks) the same day I spent £10 on Reuben 'Racecar is racecar backwards' (16 tracks). Both same lenght. Just show you how bad CD prices in England can be

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 09:18 AM

When I was in Italy a couple weeks ago I went into a CD store and nearly shat myself. Crazy prices. But I did get 3 remastered Velvet Underground CD's for 15 Euros. Only CD's I bought there.

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 09:19 AM

[QUOTE=Medopalis]We get ripped of for everything over here :angry:. Prices in places like the US are so much cheaper, for clothes and stuff.[/QUOTE]

It's true...the prices between Canada/Euros are nearly equivalent. I mean it like, if a shirt here costs $30, it costs 30 euros. And 1 euro = 1.8 Canadian, or something like that. I was pissed, I couldn't buy anything in Italy.

Well, thats what you get for living in Europe.

Bartender 08-17-2004 09:22 AM

[QUOTE=Medopalis]We get ripped of for everything over here :angry:. Prices in places like the US are so much cheaper, for clothes and stuff.[/QUOTE]

Cd prices in US chain store are almost always as horrendous as they are in English chain stores. If anything, the stores here seem to have better sales than American stores, even if the regular prices are just as bad.

superpeer 08-17-2004 09:33 AM

[QUOTE]:[list][*]Amon Amarth - Once sent from the golden hall €9.99 [*]Slayer - Reign in blood €14.99[*]Opeth - Blackwater park €15.49[*]At The Gates - Slaughter of the soul RE-RELEASE €15.49[*]Dropkick Murphys - Sing loud, sing proud €7.77[*]Testament - Practice what you preach €9.99[*]Therion - Ho drakon ho megas RE-RELEASE €9.99 [*]Graveworm - Scourge of malice €14.49[*]Arch Enemy - Black earth RE-RELEASE €14.49[*]Morbid Angel - Altars of madness RE-RELEASE €15.49 [*]Dark Tranquillity - The gallery €9.99[*]In Flames - Whoracle €15.49[*]Emperor - In the nightside eclipse RE-RELEASE €10.99[*]Candlemass -Epicus doomicus metallicus 2-CD RE-RELEASE €14.99[*]Children Of Bodom - Something wild €9.99[*]Old Man's Child - In defiance of existence €13.99[*]Machine Head -Through the ashes of empires LIMITED 2-CD[/I] €14.99[*]No Doubt - Tragic kingdom €6.99[/list]
Je betaalt per: adv
Bedrag: EUR 225.6
Bezorgkosten: EUR 3.75
Totaal bedrag : EUR 229.35



I didn't follow Jondur on the Candlemass cd, but I made it up By getting the Gallery.

Oh and I know these are a lot of cd's, but I figured to save on sending costs and order them all at once, I've been wanting these cd's for ages, but no stores sell them.
I'm spending about 1/5 of the money I earned with summer job. :thumb:


Oh and for the non Euro users :

€9.99 = $12.35 = £6.67
€14.99 = $18.53 = £10.01
€14.49 = $17.91 = £9.6
€7.77 = $9.6 = £5.19
€15.49 = $19.15 = £10.35
€10.99 = $13.5 = £7.34
€6.99 = $8.6 = £4.67


For your convenience. :thumb[/QUOTE]

Originally posted by me in the death head thread, but check it out yo.

Adam Jones is GOD 08-17-2004 09:35 AM

Dropkick Murphys - Sing loud, sing proud €7.77

I've not even seen some singles that cheap. At the best, the cheapest album I can get here if £7, but its usually something like Korn's first one :upset:
I should start ordering on-line more, do you get a resonable discount for buying in batch?

Paranoidd 08-17-2004 09:36 AM

15 euros for Reign in Blood!

Don't you guys have used CD stores or pawnshops? I got RIB for $2, nearly mint.

superpeer 08-17-2004 09:42 AM

Meh, no pawnshops as far as I know, and the used CD storesusually doesn't have a lot of good things.

Bartender 08-17-2004 09:48 AM

Yeah, I've never seen Reign in Blood offline for cheaper than £16 over here.

manuscriptreplica 08-17-2004 09:48 AM

I got about 12 CDs for $150, which is about $12.50 a cd. Which is ridiculously cheap in Australia.

Dancin' Man 08-17-2004 09:52 AM

I generally buy offline. The free CD clubs work well too if you make sure to check the box saying you don't want anything extra.
The big problem with both of those if finding what I want. Post-rock is really hard to find cheap (Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Explosions in the Sky) and that's all I've wnated lately. Oh well.


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