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Fatback 11-26-2005 12:37 AM

I never heard about such a summit.
I have been to B.B.'s home in Vegas and somebody mentioned Jimi.
Mr. King never mentioned jamming with him. It seems as if he would've.

Popup-Box 11-26-2005 12:23 PM

[QUOTE=Fatback]Let me start by saying that I know you are asking an honest question and not trying to be a smart-***..... and I'm not attempting to be "cosmic' or dodge the question with this reply.
IMO, music is a way to share ideas and emotions that can't always be explained with words.
Just as with the thread about "what makes something funky", this question of soul may be one you can't answer. It is in fact, one of those times where, If you have to ask you may never know.
I am not trying to be smug.
I am a musician. I don't display my 'funkiness' by walking like a pimp. I display it by laying down a groove that makes the little girls unable to stop their asses from shaking. Hard to articulate...impossible to resist.

(I think that Eddie tries and succeeds often to get across some REAL emotion. I can feel a dark side to him...a side that is sometimes angry and sometimes frustrated. What I usually get from guys like Vai and Satriani is the message, "Look at me! I'm just BITCHIN'!!)[/QUOTE]

I see (I couldn't prevent laughing when reading your sentence about displaying funkiness by walking like a pimp).

Compared to many guitarists they might seem like 'nothing-else-but-technical-wizard-guitarists', however they do have many songs in which I definately find several references to 'emotion'.

I've seen a concert of Van Halen on television, as well as listened to many songs, and I got to say that if you think Satriani or Vai play just for showing off sometimes; would it be unreasonable saying the same is valid for Van Halen?
I'm not saying any of these guitarists lack soul by the way, I'm trying to see it from another perspective.

Fatback 11-26-2005 01:20 PM

[QUOTE=Popup-Box]

I've seen a concert of Van Halen on television, as well as listened to many songs, and I got to say that if you think Satriani or Vai play just for showing off sometimes; would it be unreasonable saying the same is valid for Van Halen?
[/QUOTE]
Not sure that this has much to do with "soul" or the lack of it but here's my take:
ANY of us that play for a living have, on occasion, OVER-played to impress that hot chick in row three or the one making sure we notice her on the dance-floor.
Eddie certainly does his share of shredding. The solo he did for "Beat It" is almost cartoonish.
I think it is the rare exceptional musician that plays EXACTLY what the music calls for and no more. The guy that can seperate his ego entirely and just try to add the precise emotion to the piece is a true "artist". (What an over-used word THAT is!)

Popup-Box 11-26-2005 04:08 PM

OK - so where do you place Mr. Van Halen compared to Satriani and Vai, for instance?

Fatback 11-26-2005 04:39 PM

Satriani and Vai seem almost savant-like to me. Van Halen seems to have a little more feel for whatever that "thing" is that translates into commercial success.
All great players.
All really "cute".(although Eddie better cool it with the Jack Daniels)
All getting laid WAAAAAAY more than me.
I hate 'em all.:lol:

Slight Return 11-26-2005 04:57 PM

Eddie Van Halen is exceptional. My friend is REALLY into him and I've only heard a small amount of his work, but it is very good. He plays with a lot of emotion imo.

I got my bootleg Hendrix DVD's the other day =D

Popup-Box 11-26-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=Fatback]
All great players.
All really "cute".(although Eddie better cool it with the Jack Daniels)
All getting laid WAAAAAAY more than me.
I hate 'em all.:lol:[/QUOTE]

Well, that's an effective change of subject :)

Three lines, new topic; and a fourth line to conclude.

That's the way things are, I guess.

Anyway, I have a DVD of Van Halen. I might watch it over again soon.

DuckinFutch 11-27-2005 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=DuckinFutch]Hey, I "legally ambiguosly" obtained a song called

Blues Jam #2 part 2, which is supposedly by Hendrix and BB King. Is this for real?

It sounds like him, and I know he was going to go into blues and stuff towards the end, but did he really ever jam with BB?

Just wondering whether this is the real deal or not...[/QUOTE]

Hey, anyone else know if there's anyway this thing can be real?

And if it's not BB King, could it be with someone else? It sounds a lot like both of their styles, but I really couldn't be sure...

DuckinFutch 11-27-2005 04:20 PM

sorry about the double post...


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